Credit to James White for exposing the lies at the heart of Nabeel Qureshi’s fake ‘I was a Muslim’ claims.
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It’s like a former jehovas witness or a Mormon insisting that he was previously an average mainstream Christian, for the purpose of bashing Christianity.
Nabeel was never a Muslim to begin with. Hence he isn’t an apostate – as much as he desperately desires to be one.
That ahmadis / qadianis are not Muslims is one of those rare points over which there is unanimous agreement among Muslim scholars. Qadianis follow a guy by the name of mirza ghulam ahmad. His views were radically different from normative Islam. He saw himself as God’s prophet and Messiah and Mehdi combined, believed he was the reincarnation of Jesus and Mary, preached that Jesus was buried in Kashmir, to mention a few odd beliefs of his. He also abused and insulted jesus in his books (qadianis often justify that by reasoning that mirza did that just so the Christian polemicists could see how Muslims feel hurt when Muhammad (pbuh) is abused.
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Very well said!
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I think something that gets lost in all this is that Nabeel claims to have been devout from a devout family yet at the same time says his former religion teaches people to behave like those who carried out the Paris terrorist attack.
If he was sincere and genuinely beleved this one would expect him to have reported his family to the FBI as potential terrorists.
If he has not done this then he is either allowing possible terrorist attacks (and thus is a terrorist sympathiser – one much bigger than Corbyn :)).
Or
Nabeel knows he has not been honest concerning what he has sad about Islam etc.
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Also, if Islam is inherently violent and Nabeel, once upon a time, was such a devout Muslim, then what stopped him from implementing one of Islam’s inherent Core violent commands? Which quranic verse or a hadith text made him really guilty in this way, “oh man, I’m being a bad Muslim, this verse tells me to just go out and kill a non Muslim, but I just can’t bring myself to follow it even though it’s from God.” Nabeel should tell us about these once upon a time inner struggles of his when he was supposedly a Muslim.
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Credit to Dr. James White. It is an embarrassment to Nabeel Qureish. I don’t know whether Nabeel will continue to peddle lies that he is an ex-Muslim to get more money from unsuspecting Christians now that his friend Dr. James White has said the truth concerning he (Nabeel’s) lies as ex-Muslim.
Such video by Nabeel is an effective way to get a lot of money from unsuspecting Christians, some of who are ignorant about Islam and believe what an “ex-Muslim” say about Islam by giving those “ex-Muslims” a lot of money just for lying about Islam.
Some Christians knew very well that these “ex-Muslims” are indeed liars but the Christians will use them and it is an effective tool for them(bigot Christians) when some one claims he is an ex-Muslim an Imam of a Mosque, and a scholar and it will mean what he says is true about Islam because he knows Islam very well.
We have these types of people from the time of our Prophet Mohammed till today and the likes of Irshad Manji, Ergun Carner, Walid Shoebat, Wafa Sultan, Aayan Ali etc are all rich because Christians are using them against Islam and some knowingly and some unknowingly thinking they are not telling lies.
An educated person and intelligent with regards to theology, Islam and Christianity will quickly realize the above and host of others are indeed liars to extort money from Christians. Most of them were exposed with facts as liars and Dr. James White did a good job in exposing some of them.
I am sure Dr. White will not sponsor Nabeel to debate as part of his team to introduce himself(Nabeel) as an ex-Muslim.
Asad
You said;
Which quranic verse or a hadith text made him really guilty in this way, “oh man, I’m being a bad Muslim, this verse tells me to just go out and kill a non Muslim, but I just can’t bring myself to follow it even though it’s from God.”
I say;
Nabeel is not an Islamic scholar and does not know or speak Arabic. How can he interpret the Quran and any Islamic literature and insists we should believe him and his interpretation is right and correct?
Every religion has people interpreting its scriptures to cause harm to others, like the Christians used their scriptures to harm Muslims, Jews, Christians and all who do not believe them until rule of law, freedom of religion and constitution was slapped on them by the liberals of the west.
The liberals has to force the Christians to accept these laws by overpowering them, other wise the Church was atrocious. Now the west have law and order that is what supressed the abortion clinic shooters and beating of Catholic Christians and Mormons by other Christians but Planned Parent hood Doctors are still being killed even in their Churches worshiping and other Christians will kiHell them there.
Why did Nabeel Quraish did not make video about his new religion which the FBI said domestic terrorism is more dangerous and more common in the USA than isis?
He will not do a video against his new religion because he will lose money and will not get sponsorship.
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David Wood knew he was a Qadiani but still uses him to attack Islam, to the extent of dragging him(Nabeel) to an Arab festival in Detroit to attack Muslims and the were arrested. Sad for a fake “ex-Muslim”.
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Think you misunderstood me. I know Nabeel does not know Arabic, was definitely never a scholar and, like many, is not conversant with the surrounding scholarship.
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So Paul what are your thoughts on your country now bombing ISIS?
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Ah Bobby you’re back! How’s the Olde US of A?
Do you think it was better run when we Brits owned it?
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Not an answer to my question so I will assume that you are not in favor of your country killing ISIS Muslims?
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Not an answer to my question so I will assume you are not in favor of your country breaking away from the British Crown?
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Asad
Sorry brother. I am not in argument with you but with Nabeel Quraish. All the questions are directed to him(Nabeel) and not you. I just used your analysis about his lies to arrive with the questions.
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Paul then you would assume wrong. So did I assume wrong and you are in favor of the UK killing ISIS Muslims?
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Oh so I assumed wrong? So will you be voting for the Trump?
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Trump, no probably not, although he would make an entertaining president lol. So since you keep refusing to answer (a common trait shared by all Muslims) I’m going to assume you are NOT in favor of your country killing your ISIS Muslim Brothers.
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“So will you be voting or the Trump?”
I will be voting for the air freshner
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BTW Paul so you agree with Dr White that ISIS is Islamic?
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rofl Trump’s not gonna win. If he gets the republican ticket, it’s a freebie for whoever’s against him.
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Robert Wells
You said;
BTW Paul so you agree with Dr White that ISIS is Islamic?
I say;
If Paul agrees with Dr. White against the Nabeel’s lies, does that mean he(Paul) must automatically with anything Dr. White says? Come on Mr. Wells, the world wasn’t created as such. Some times close friends do have some disagreements on certain issues.
I responded because you keep repeating this annoying question in the when one agrees with a particular instance of something so it means one must automatically agrees with all different instances from the same thing.
Dr. White is now defending Muslims and seriously against Islamophobia, because he has debated with Muslims and has realized just like every religion like the Planned Parenthood shooter, it is not all of us who support the wrong interpretation of the Quran.
Nabeel Quraish and David Wood who do not know Arabic and have no qualification in Islamic studies and are not Islamic scholars must not and should not interpret our Arabic Quran for us. They must go and learn Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic to be able to interpret their own scriptures before it will be appropriate for them to learn Islam and interpret Islam.
Nabeel’s interpretation is just like Isis interpretation. Any one can grab the Bible and interpret it like the Colorado Christian terrorist shooter.
Dr. James you are now becoming a friend of Muslims because you do not want someone like Nabeel to vomit his hatred lies on them for persecution so that he(Nabeel) will get some money from Christians.
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Intellect you wrote…
Dr. James you are now becoming a friend of Muslims because you do not want someone like Nabeel to vomit his hatred lies on them for persecution so that he(Nabeel) will get some money from Christians.
My response: You might want to check Dr Whites blog for his latest post.
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Give me the link please.
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http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php/2015/12/06/facebook-insanity/
Here is the link, Intellect
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Christian preacher missionaries ALWAYS have to rely on lies when they try to convert Muslims – in my own experience
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Nabeel has certainly put himself in a rather awkward position with regards to his legitimacy as an ‘ex-Muslim’.
It is unfortunate that some feel the need to sell themselves by what they used to be rather than the person they are now. Right wing Evangelicalism is a hotbed for such celebrity preachers.
But not many Saints.
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Patrice
Thanks for the link. I read Dr. White’s concern when Sam Shamoun and others were not happy about his(Dr. White’s) stance with regards to Nabeel Qureish being a Qadiani and not a Muslim and also how not all Muslims must be labelled as tourists. Oops. terrorists.
We need tourist guards/guides to follow us around when going to Mosques like how that isis dressed American follows an innocent Muslim woman to the Mosque.
Oops terrorists guide like the one guiding, guarding of terrorising a lady to her Mosque.
Robert Wells, I read Dr. Whites article with regards to Nabeel Quraish, a Qadiani’s lies and White categorically stood by his words in that Nabeel is a Qadiani.
I do not have to necessarily, mandatory or by default have to agrees with all that James White said. You have to learn to live with not everything has to be accepted from a person.
Dressing like isis will remind me of isis and the person in that dress with mask following the lady looks like isis who want to attack.
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Patrice
You said;
It is unfortunate that some feel the need to sell themselves by what they used to be rather than the person they are now. Right wing Evangelicalism is a hotbed for such celebrity preachers.
But not many Saints.
I say;
Being a celebrity preacher like Nabeel Quraish is where the money is, with regards to Christianity. His original video would have fetched him a substantial cash from Christians for indicating he was an “ex-Muslim”. Aayan Ali Hirsi, Irshad Manji, Egun Carner, Wafa Sultan, Walid Shoebat and many more are really making cash from Christians and other media who erroneously thinks by being an “ex-Muslim” you are a scholar of Islam and knows everything about Islam.
Nabeel, if you have found Jesus as your saviour why not spend much of your time serving him? by learning Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic and probably Arabic very well to evangelize the gospel of Jesus rather than telling lies as an “ex-Muslim” but you are not. You are an “ex-Qadiani”. Tell the Christians you believed a person was Jesus incarnated in the form of Ghulam Ahmed.
Islam from the time of our prophet has followers from other religion who converted to it and rarely mention their previous religion but dedicated their lives to their new religion.
Examples can be found today from Jerald Dirks, Mark Hanson, Tim Winter, Tim Humble, Ingrid Matson, Jonathan Brown, Lawrence Brown, Yusuf Estes and many more. Most of these converts speaks fluent Arabic and knows their new religion very well and are teachers and lecturers teaching other Muslims the new religion they adopted. They hardly talk about their new religion but dedicate their lives in propagating their new religion.
If you want to be concentrating on your old religion then tell the truth and present your self as a Qadiani and Qadianis apart from their founder who was arrogant and violent, Qadianis are not violent because they are always minorities wherever they go and never had a state on their own, so their violent nature will not show.
So Dr. James White is right. If you were a Qadiani as is a fact, then it is lie to say your former religion is violent because Qadiani as a religion is not violent. You are like Mormons to Muslims and you knew that. Then why keep telling lies that you are an ex-Muslim but not ex-Qadiani?
Paul Williams have this blog to foster understandings of Christianity and Islam and it is no doubt it has stopped some misconception about Islam and Christianity as well among its readers, but he hardly uses “ex-Christian” or “My former religion, Christianity” as often, unless being cornered so he will reveal his old faith.
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correction
I said this
They hardly talk about their new religion but dedicate their lives in propagating their new religion.
I meant to say something like
Sheikhs Hamza Yusuf, Hakeem Murad, Tim Humble etc. hardly talk about their previous faith, but are busy teaching other people Islam with their fluency in Arabic just like the Arabs, but their fluency is for the sake of Islam-their new religion. Somebody must go and learn Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew and be fluent in it and evangelize his Christians and stop telling lies about Islam he does not know.
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Oh dear, James White sure gave it yahya snow for his deceit in that helpful clarification.
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Mark
I’m not sure if this comment will go through but White was blasting me for a video I had no involvement in.
My response is on my blog. I think you will recognise he was being unfair to say the least.
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This is encouraging news. But I bet every “peaceful Muslim” on this blog will condemn it.
“A number of Muslim organizations met in Washington, D.C., at the Heritage Foundation for a two-day summit on combating Islamic extremism. The leaders announced the formation of a new initiative called the Muslim Reform Movement.
The Muslim Reform Movement will focus on confronting extremist segments of the religion. According to the Washington Examiner, the group quickly released:
…a declaration of principles calling on Muslims to reject violent jihad and endorse religious freedom for all and secular government, and saying they will call out those who reject it.
During the panel discussion, Naser Khader, a member of the Parliament in Denmark of the Conservative People’s Party addressed ISIS directly, saying: “We reject the idea of an Islamic state.” He went on to discuss how Muslims must address ISIS:
“We cannot say that the Islamic State are not Muslims. That is what they call themselves.
If we the Muslims do not face the problem of violence that links to Islam in our time, how will we ever succeed in ripping Islam out of the hands of these destructive powers and lift our religion into the 21st century?”
Thoughts opinions? Prove me wrong?
http://www.youngcons.com/muslim-groups-are-calling-out-pc-culture-for-being-too-timid-to-combat-radical-islam/
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How about joining the Robert Wells Reform Movement
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So Burhanuddin1 I take it your against it?
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Bobby When did you become a Christian? Do you come from a born again family?
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I bet “Muslim Reform Movement” won’t be sponsored by National Rifle Association or Lockheed Martin
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Robert Wells
Thanks for bringing this peace initiative to our attention.
Muslims have already been doing similar things long time ago to foster peace in the world but the only difference is that it was not done in Washington DC.
It is done with Muslim communities and law enforcement agencies to collaborate and work together, so that if there is any hint of any extremist or radicalization idea, law enforcement will be alerted and action taken whether to counsel the youth by both religious and psychiatric, employment or any thing that will make sure he does not follow any extremist path.
Muslims, Mosques Imams of Mosques, and even families did report some cases of radicalization to law enforcement and it is a fact.
I swear by Allah, just this Friday, when I attended Friday prayers, during a sermon, the Imam keeps urging Muslims to report any radicalization and hint of any terror attack to law enforcements. He is a head of Muslims who are working with law enforcements to try and combat any extremism in Muslim communities. All over the world Muslims realized they have their own radicals and are fighting them. If Christians also realized their radicals like Colorado shooter and reports him that will be great.
If they(Christians) do not vote for an anti-Muslim president like Carson and Trump to go to war in Iran and to create Iranian terrorists and isis #2 coming from Iran that would be great.
So, this is not a new idea. It is more effective when a committee of Muslims and Imams are working with law enforcements and they did report some cases to police, including families reporting their own families to authorities.
Example is the Nigerian underwear bomber who was reported to the authorities by his own Father from Nigeria.
Mr. Wells, we are not terrorists and Islam is not terrorism and just like any religion like Christianity which uses some verses to commit genocide in crusade and now Zionist in Israel committing genocide, some extreme Muslims will use some passages to commit terror.
The verses are war verses and before and after any verse of war you will find “do not be aggressors for Allah does not love aggressors”, “if they stop fighting you, stop fighting them”, “If the pagans seek your protection, then guide him to a safe place, so he may hear the word of Allah” etc. and this is what Sam Shamoun or David Wood will not quote but distort other verses and makes David Wood and Sam Shamoun isis members.
Our scholars who spent years in Islamic school i.e. Yasir Qadhi, Mark Hanson, Tim Wintor, etc. will not interpret the verses like how David, Sam and Nabeel does and the later has no formal education in Islam to be taken serious.
Dr. White even though a critic of Islam has exempted himself from this islamophobes and you Robert Wells is gradually begging to tone down your rhetoric and we appreciate that. You can still criticise us where possible and we will try to explain things to you.
The idea is Washington is not new, but Muslims, Imams and committees are already doing it for a long time. There were some reports from Muslims to authorities. Christians must also realize their own extremists and deal with them and there will be peace in the world.
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Any further updates on this. I am still waiting for him to be miraculously cured through the holy spirit and start his own healing ministry making millions by “healing” people…
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You can get updates on his Facebook page. I don’t think he has been healed yet.
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