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  1. Littlejohn before:
    Sam Shamoun is another Christian apologist who’s very ignorant with very bad manners and morals, and he uses foul language in his discourses, debates and dialogues with Muslims and again someone who is full of hate and someone to be ignored.

    Littlejohn after:
    Thank you Sam for the kind words. Nobody can ignore your awesome debates with Muslims … Sam Shamoun is a very experienced and qualified Christian debater. Most Muslims flee him in terror refusing to debate him.

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  2. Would you be open to other topics?

    It would seem impossible to prove that Jesus is divine to someone that refuses to accept the reliability of the Bible.

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  3. I am not sure that Littlejohn can debate freestyle without a teleprompter or a script to read. Maybe Shamoun will hold up cue cards for him read.

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  4. Paul. What’s your obsession with the guy? You know very well that he is still learning. Why don’t you grow a pair and accept sam shamoun challenge for a debate? ? This is getting behond ridiculous.

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    • No person with self-respect will debate an uneducated, piece of sh’it like Shamoun. Let me ask you this ksk: exactly what will I learn from Sam Shamoun’s writings on Islam that I won’t from reading academic journals?

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    • ksk are you afraid he will loose?

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    • Paul, how can he lose when he has the truth on his side?
      Kmak, I have personally learnt so much from sam shamoun just by watching his old debates and reading his articles.
      how about you guys team up with paul and debate Neil and sam ? All you have been doing is insult sam at every opportunity and yet your messages are never deleted. Double standards? ?

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    • Neil will not debate. That is the problem

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    • ksk

      You said;
      Kmak, I have personally learnt so much from sam shamoun just by watching his old debates and reading his articles.

      I say;
      It is better to learn a subject from an expert who has spent years learning and researching on the topic in an academic settings.

      The code of conduct in an academic settings like in the Universities, Christian science monitor, the history channel etc. will not tolerate lies, insults and hate. They need the truth and research. Learning from David Wood, Sam Shamoun, Spencer, Aayan, Shoebat Walid etc. is not a wise thing to do and you will be lost. They are not telling the truth.

      Why is Sam Shamoun not allowed to teach at a University, if he knows Islam? Dr. John L. Esposito of Georgetown university, Dr. Graig Considine and many more Christians who are Islamic scholars do not agree with Sam Shamoun’s rubbish.

      If he is qualified as one who knows Islam to learn from, then he must apply to teach Islamic at a University. Even a Christian university will not allow Sam Shamoun to teach there. This is far from insulting Sam but I am making a point.

      If you want to learn Islam, then study it from combination of Muslims and non Muslim Islamic scholars who has studied Arabic very well like a Christian Dr. Esposito or Dr. Considine not Sam Shamoun.

      Aayan Ali, Irshad Manji, Walid Shoebad, Ergun Carner etc. are now a little bit silent. They do not have Islamic qualifications to say what they want.

      Thanks.

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    • “You know very well that he is still learning.”

      Wasn’t Littlejohn born and raised Christian? Didn’t he spend his early years as a Christian and his later years as a “Muslim” studying Christianity? Did he apostate from Islam out of ignorance or did he not reflect deeply on what he learned before making his decision and retuning to Christianity?

      I think it is a poor excuse to say that Littlejohn cannot debate because he is “still learning” a Christianity that he has known and understood all of his life.

      If he wants to pursue the truth for himself peacefully and privately, then more power to him. But if he wishes to serve as a Christian apologist and publicly attack Islam then he should expect criticism and counter argument in return. Enough with the excuses.

      He needs to man up and meet the challenge!

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    • ksk: Kmak, I have personally learnt so much from sam shamoun just by watching his old debates and reading his articles.

      Such as what? That Islam is actually a pagan religion that no textbook on religion claims? Or that Muhammad was a cross-dresser? Or that Islam permits bestiality?

      Shamoun’s highest level of education is a GED. Nothing could be stupider than to think that one can have an informed opinion on Islam by reading articles written by an uneducated polemicist.

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    • “Shamoun’s highest level of education is a GED.”

      How can anyone take him seriously or bother with his unqualified ignorance and childish remarks about Islam?

      (No offence to more honest holders of GED.)

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    • When I say that I have learnt a lot from sam, it’s from watching him debate muslim! !
      He presented his cases from trusted Islamic sources and most of the time the muslim apologist will have no refutation to his claims. As I keep saying, instead of you guys saying that he is useless, bla bla, why don’t you debate and prove to all that he really has no knowledge. Simple really!
      He has been calling out many of you guys, and I am yet to see one man up!

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    • ”He presented his cases from trusted Islamic sources and most of the time the muslim apologist will have no refutation to his claims.”

      umm,no.Every one of his claims have been refuted.The guy even gives us his own arabic at times.How can someone even take him seriously?

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  5. Paul Williams

    December 6, 2016 • 11:08 pm

    ksk are you afraid he will loose?

    I say;
    You added extra o to the lose.

    Thanks.

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  6. I have been making a lot of mistakes anyway.

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  7. Hi Paul,

    Don’t you have several challenges to debate from Christian apologists that you have been ducking for years? James White? David Wood? Anthony Rogers?

    Why are you so anxious to debate a person who just left Islam rather than those who have been doing apologetics for a long time, and why are you not interested in doing a debate on the prophethood and character of Muhammad, which would cover the issues over why Neil left Islam?

    Are you worried about engaging a seasoned debater and trying to defend Muhammad’s claims and character?

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    • I agree with ARejoinder. Seems rather suspicious and somewhat disingenuous for Paul to make such debate challenges when he won’t debate those that have repeatedly challenged him to a debate.

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    • Picky as in you only pick those who you think offer very little challenge.

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    • True. I’m a bit of a coward at heart.

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    • I think I will sweeten the pot a bit.

      If you agree to do two debates with Anthony Rogers, David Wood, and/or Sam Shamoun in Chicago, one on a Muslim topic and one on a Christian topic, we can provide the following:

      1. Round trip air fare for two (yes, you can bring the other Paul)

      2. Four nights and 5 days at a four star or better hotel.

      3. Depending on whether you choose to stay in the Suburbs or Downtown Chicago, either a rental car, Uber pass, or Transit Card.

      4. Entertainment depending on the dates of the debate. If you are a sportsman we can provide tickets to see the World Champion Chicago Cubs, Black Hawks, or Bulls. Sorry, no White Sox; I do have my standards. Or you can even watch the Bears lose in real men’s football, not that sissy soccer stuff you guys play across the pond.

      5. If you’re an outdoorsman, we can offer sailing and fishing on Lake Michigan in the spring, summer, and fall. If you choose the winter and you want to climb a tree and hunt the elusive corn fed dear we can provide that too. Or perhaps you are into fowling. If so, we have Quail, Pheasant, Duck and Geese to kill as well. Permits, Shot Guns, Bows and Arrows will all be provided.

      6. Or perhaps you would like to practice that mercy from Allah? It’s open season on Coyotes. It’s kill on site all year round.

      7. And of course there is the Chicago Symphony, award winning plays, and musicals.

      Let us know so we can start to plan your trip and itinerary.

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    • ARejoinder’s Friend, how about finding Shamoun a job so that he doesn’t have to live off his wife’s income?

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    • Arejoinder friend,
      Sam, wood & Rogers must be really desperate for people to take them seriously if they have to resort to offering what amounts to bribes in order to tempt someone into debating them.

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    • Kmak why don’t you encourage Paul to stop hiding and take advantage of this generous offer to debate Sam.

      Ibn getting paid for work is a bribe to you? Funny ok then Paul can pay his own way, pay for his own accommodations and entertainment when he debates.

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    • ” If so, we have Quail, Pheasant, Duck and Geese to kill as well. Permits, Shot Guns, Bows and Arrows will all be provided.

      6. Or perhaps you would like to practice that mercy from Allah? It’s open season on Coyotes. It’s kill on site all year round.”

      so you man worshippers kill animals for fun?

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    • Kmac putting aside Christians do not worship a man.
      Is their something wrong with allahs mercy?

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    • Or Paul Williams can skip it and you and you friends can “debate” amongst yourselves as to why no one takes Shamoun and Wood seriously anymore.

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    • of course christians worship a man who eats, breaths and sleeps.

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    • american christians kill animals for fun and make a sport out of it

      https://www.thedodo.com/us-trophy-hunters-killed-million-1464045989.html

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    • Edward,
      Don’t forget how American Christians sport hunted the American Bison to near extinction (not to mention the American Indian). Christian love and mercy.

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    • ARejoinder’s Friend: Kmak why don’t you encourage Paul to stop hiding and take advantage of this generous offer to debate Sam.

      Because I have a f**king life.

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    • ARejoinder’s Friend

      thanks for the offer.

      Who are you?

      Full real name please

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    • “Kmac putting aside Christians do not worship a man.”

      Trinitarians have to worship the human nature. Seems you are fake Christian

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    • A Rejoinder’s Friend

      I wonder how the people who donate their hard earned money to Acts17 would feel that this is how they choose to spend it? I don’t think the idea was to provide Muslims with luxurious holiday packages!

      I mean don’t me wrong if thats what you want to do i’m all for it as it is a very nice thing to do. However what can you expect from people who don’t earn their own money and live on hand outs? One of the most important lessons i have ever learned in life is how when one earns their own money, they tend to value it more and therefore become more prudent as to what you spend it on.

      Or you could just be a troll who is messing with us in which case…

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    • And who are you? Your name?

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  8. “If someone kills a sparrow for sport, the sparrow will cry out on the Day of Judgement, ‘O Lord! That person killed me in vain! He did not kill me for any useful purpose” (Nisai).

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