Evangelical Ministers Ken Copeland and Jesse Duplantis claimed they talked to God on a private jet and that their supernatural feat was impossible to accomplish while riding in coach.
The conversation took place on Tuesday during a broadcast of The Believers Voice of Victory. The two preachers were seated at a folksy table when Duplantis recounted his personal conversation with the Lord Almighty while riding in his private jet.
The Lord apparently opened with, “Jesse, do you like your plane?”
Although the conversation sounded suspiciously like Duplantis talking to himself, Ken Copeland chimed in, saying, “You couldn’t have done that on an airline,” and that “Private jets are sanctuary that protect the anointed.”
Copeland went on to say that commercial airline travel was impossible for preachers in a “dope filled world” and that riding coach was like “getting in a long tube with a bunch of demons.”
Other preachers, such as Pastor Creflo Dollar, have allegedly been told by God to buy private planes. Creflo was able to raise $70 million for a Gulfstream Jet to fulfill the mysterious will of the Lord.
Categories: Christian extremism, Silly
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Hmmm… but shouldn’t their prayers be in ‘flight mode’ so the signal doesn’t interfere with radio communications and cause the plane to crash??
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Lol, absolutely. They should be in flight mode. Constantly.
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These two Preachers clearly know that they are taking advantage of positions, and that what they are doing is wrong, otherwise they would feel no need to spend over 5 min defending their corrupt actions. What amount of Charitable funds they cheated Christian believers out of, and have misspent on other frivolities and personal comforts only God and their own private accountants know.
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Exactly. And they avoid calling then private jets.
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I wonder what someone like Martin Luther, Jerome, or Jesus himself would have done about preachers who use the pulpit to profit and gain, at the expense of those whom they claim to “Shepherd.”
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Hi Paul
it sound a bit like…
1st Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils..
2nd Peter 2:1-3
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. note
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
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Good ol’ Bible, always a raisin to pick.
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If it wasn’t for Islam I would have become an atheist….how anyone can hold on to their faith on the face of such a blatant con is a miracle.
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Hi Musegele
I hold on to my faith because my bible prophesies the actions of these type of people we were warned in 2 Peter, and I’m sorry Muhammad didn’t warn me in any specific way.
In other words nothing in great detail from the so called last prophet.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
According to this verse text its a bare face lie that Muhammad is the last prophet, maybe the first and last Arab prophet but not THE last prophet.
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DC,
Thanks being honest and admitting the Prophet Muhammad is an Arab Prophet!! That’s what we have been telling you all along. And YES, he is the LAST PROPHET, a fact which in and of itself, warns the Muslim not to accept the teachings of any other false prophets after him.
The Qur’an repeatedly warns us against adopting innovations, and going astray, and tells us not to follow those who would lead us astray.
In regard to latter day prophets of revelations. Although modern scholarship commonly refers to the author of the book of Revelations as John of Patmos, the precise identify of the author remains unknown. How can you put your trust in a book that says that there will be latter day Prophets, when you cannot even confirm the identity of the author and therefore are unable to confirm the validity of such textual predictions
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@ defendchrist.
‘ I hold on to my faith because my bible prophesies the actions of these type of people we were warned in 2 Peter, and I’m sorry Muhammad didn’t warn me in any specific way ‘
Translation : Pivot! Pivot! Attack Muhammad(p) and distract from the soldering remains of Christian credibility!!!
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It doesn’t appear Jesus would recommend buying private jets that cost tens of millions of dollars:
16And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Matthew 19
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Judging by their actions, it would seem that many Christian preachers interpret verse 21 as follows:
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and buy a private jet and a big mansion and thou shalt have treasure on earth: and come and follow the almighty dollar.
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DC,
Thanks being honest and admitting the Prophet Muhammad is an Arab Prophet!! That’s what we have been telling you all along. And YES, he is the LAST PROPHET, a fact which in and of itself, warns the Muslim not to accept the teachings of any other false prophets after him.
The Qur’an repeatedly warns us against adopting innovations, and going astray, and tells us not to follow those who would lead us astray.
In regard to latter day prophets of revelations. Although modern scholarship commonly refers to the author of the book of Revelations as John of Patmos, the precise identify of the author remains unknown. How can you put your trust in a book that says that there will be latter day Prophets, when you cannot even confirm the identity of the author and therefore are unable to confirm the validity of such textual predictions.
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Hi Ibn
You are missing the point I am not saying I believe Muhammad was a true prophet far from it, what I am appealing to is the truth of the prophecy of Peter about the false teachers in the last days.
He is talking about men within the Christian church (worldwide) who will be teaching things that are false and leading people astray while taking their money.
Now is the prophecy true? of course it is!
Peter is speaking about certain types of people and even tells what they will actually be doing, and warns us about them.
Why do I need the koran when the bible reveals to me all I need to know.
Yeah Muhammad is an Arab prophet and does not qualify in the line of prophethood even by the Koran’s own testimony.
Surah 29:27
And We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed. (Pickthall)
And We granted him Ishaq and Yaqoub, and caused the prophethood and the book to remain in his seed. (Shakir)
And We bestowed Ishaq and Yaqub to him, and kept the Prophethood and the Book among his descendants. (Faridul Haque)
Surah 45:16:
And verily We gave the Children of Israel the Scripture and the Command and the Prophethood, and provided them with good things and favoured them above all peoples. (Pickthall)
Where is Ishmael? nowhere!
Can you name for me 10 prophets that are not Jewish and where they preached to the people they were sent to?
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DC
I was only being facetious about u admitting the legitimacy of my Prophet (SWS).
I actually like that u apply the text in Peter to false leaders like the Evangelical Ministers Ken Copeland and Jesse Duplantis and I agree w/you on that.
Surah 29:27 is specifically about the israelite line of prophethood. And Surah 45:16 is specific to a certain time. The Qur’an recognizes that Prophet Muhammad is a Prophet from the line of Ishmael therefore it would not make sense to mention him as part of the Israelite line. It still does not detract from his legitimacy, as there are many arguments to be made and strong prophetic claim through descent from Ishmael even if Jews and Christians may disagree.
Why do I need the Bible when the Qur’an reveals to me all I need to know?
In regard to 10 prophets that are not Jewish we can start with Adam and Abraham and then work outward from there.
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Hi Ibn Issam
my apologies I didn’t write your properly
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Ibn Issam
my apologies I didn’t write your name properly
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DC
Thanks I appreciate that and no offense taken.
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Who is buying this?
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As usual, easily duped Christians.
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Hi Ibn Issam
Your comment does work as though Muslims have never been duped, as Paul had honesty to say some Muslims have confidence in their religion.
Let me ask you something who was Muhammad talking to in the cave?
When and how did he find out about the angel that appeared to him.
I would say based on the evidence of the hadith all of you have been duped.
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DC,
Firstly I was referring to those people who are duped by the charlatan preachers whom you yourself identified as false prophets or preachers.
But since you brought up those who are duped by religion, I think it is clear that Christians have been misguided by the Bible, which Biblical scholars have clearly shown is not the infallible word of God.
While there may be some Hadeeth that are problematic, (most of these have been identified as being weak or less than Sahih etc.) most importantly these are secondary sources, whereas the Qur’an is the primary source text. And the Qur’an as a manuscript has much more validity than the Bible ever has or ever will. So if we are going by which religion offers less chance of being duped , I will take Islam every time over Christianity (or any other religion).
You question who was Muhammad talking to in the cave? However, you ignore the fact that your own book alleges that Jesus was tempted by the Devil.
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I wonder what is in those blue mugs.
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I hear that Christians like to drink the blood of the innocent………or maybe its just wine.
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Hi Musegele
You said the following…
Translation : Pivot! Pivot! Attack Muhammad(p) and distract from the soldering remains of Christian credibility!!!
You obviously didn’t read what I said let me repeat myself I said that these people sound like what is written in 2 Peter 2:1-3 they fit the description of the false teachers that Peter was talking about.
The verses of prophecy have been confirmed as true by the lifestyles of those it was speaking all those years ago.
Secondly I spoke about Muhammd in regards to any prophecies he may have spoken about the last days, and so he hasn’t said anything that would cause me to follow him.
I’m not distracting from anything and neither do I have to.
I’m still waiting for a convincing answer in regards to the meeting of Muhammad and the Angel how did it come to be that you guys think it is the Angel Gabriel?
1. Did the Angel say it was his name?
2. Did Muhammad say it was the Angel’s name?
3. Did Allah say it was the angel’s name?
What is the real answer?
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The guy with the dyed hair seems drunk – the other one is on “spiritual high”
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DC,
The only reason that you believe that Muhammad did not warn you about false prophets, is because you are not looking deeply enough at the Qur’an or because you refuse to see or admit.
Many Biblical prophets mayhave warned of false prophets to come after them, but they don’t neccesarily exclude the possibility of true prophets coming after as well.
In contrast, the Qur’an designates Muhhammad (sws) as the seal of the Prophets meaning no true prophets will come after him. So there is a clear warning in the Qur’an, it is just up to you to accept it or not. If you choose not to accept it hat is fine, but don’t say the Qur’an doesn’t warn you.
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Was speaking to a Spanish lady recently who has given up faith in God because of the Catholic Church.
Religious orgs need to be careful about their actions, they can have devastating consequences on other ppl’s faith in God.
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True, but on the margins people are entering into faith and quietly leaving it all the time, in Islam and in Catholicism – though probably much more haemorrhaging from the latter.
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Yahya,
Don’t miss the opportunity to make Dawah to that Spanish lady!!!!
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Those 2 men are 2 of the worst (and goofiest nut-balls) heretics – greed is their god. They don’t teach anything that is Christian and the only things that they talk about is money, automatic healing, success, etc.
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; 3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
2 Peter 2:1-3
I don’t even think Copeland or Duplantis are Christians at all.
https://apologeticsandagape.wordpress.com/2013/04/05/false-teachers-should-be-named-specifically/
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Another article (of several others I have) that exposes the false doctrines of that whole “Word of Faith” – Healing-Prosperity” movement:
https://apologeticsandagape.wordpress.com/2013/04/12/by-their-own-words-the-word-faith-teachers-condemn-themselves/
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