Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. [Exodus 21:17]
According to Rev Steven Anderson, Jesus is backing up the commandment in Exodus 21 in Matthew 15:4:
For God said: ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’
Pastor Steven Anderson teaches this refers to people who curse their parents (not insult or are disobedient, i.e. those children who wish their parents will die or go to hell) and those who hit their parents
I will also add Mark 7 in as it is the same as Matthew 15:
Mark 7:10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your Father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever curses his father or mother must be put to death.’
Steven Anderson, links Matthew 15:4 and Exodus 21:17 with 2 Kings 2:
23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys
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Mark 7:10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your Father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever curses his father or mother must be put to death.’
you just can’t bring moses in an argument knowing full well that you replace the practice with “new cov”
this would be contradiction in thinking and expose jesus as a hypocrite.
yes , jesus really said “for moses said….” because he did not know of any “new cov”
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Jesus had to support the death penalty. Otherwise, he could not be the Messiah as per Ezekiel 37:
“My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd. They will follow my laws and be careful to keep my decrees. 25 They will live in the land I gave to my servant Jacob, the land where your ancestors lived. They and their children and their children’s children will live there forever, and David my servant will be their prince forever. 26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant. I will establish them and increase their numbers, and I will put my sanctuary among them forever. 27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be my people. 28 Then the nations will know that I the Lord make Israel holy, when my sanctuary is among them forever.”
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Christians living in the secularized West are obviously embarrassed at the fact that their savior did not abolish the law as they claim. They are so desperate at avoiding the keeping of the law that they will even lie against their savior!
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What a nutcase
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I love this guy. We need more Christians like him.
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So you want to introduce the death penalty for kids who curse their parents. Will it be death by fire, stoning or the sword? Is there a lower age limit?
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What a nutcase
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Paul, we should not do the same thing about Biblical law that this scum does with Islamic law. There are some extreme things in the Bible of course but one should not strawman.
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Jesus was an extremist?
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Question: “Does the Bible really say that parents should have their rebellious children stoned?”
Answer: This is one of those “Yes, but…” questions that require serious explaining. Leviticus 20:9 says, “If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.”
First, a note on the last part of the verse. “His bloodguiltiness is upon him” basically means that he brought this punishment on himself. He knew what he was supposed to do, and he didn’t do it. Also, it is important to remember that the Mosaic Law was for God’s covenant people, Israel, living in a theocracy. The Old Testament Law is not in force today (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23–25; Ephesians 2:15).
Deuteronomy 21:18–21 expands on the law:
If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear.
The context of a passage is crucial to understanding what it means. Taking these two verses by themselves, one could come away with a negative attitude toward God and His Word. In the Leviticus passage, this law is part of a section dealing with egregious sins, sins that would tear a nation and family apart. The trespass in question was not a casual, slip-of-the-tongue curse, but a deep-seated rebellion, an ongoing attitude of hatred that had to be dealt with severely. In other words, the punishment was not for minor infractions but for determined defiance.
There are several things to keep in mind about this particular sin and about the law:
The sin was ongoing and continuous. Deuteronomy 21:18 indicates that the punishment was only meted out after a persistent refusal to heed both father and mother and after all discipline had failed. The parents have tried to deal with their son in a loving, firm way, but nothing worked.
It was deep-seated sin. Verse 20 specifies that the son is stubborn in his rebellion. Not only is he recalcitrant, “he is a glutton and a drunkard.” This is not a case of a child who misses curfew or plays ball in the house. This was a true menace, a child who is causing trouble in society and grieving his parents, possibly to the point of endangering them physically and financially.
The punishment was not an impulsive act of anger or vengeance. Verse 19 says that the city elders had to oversee the case and determine the guilt of the child. It is only after the elders pronounced a sentence of death that the execution could take place. The law did not allow an angry parent to arbitrarily stone a child. A modern equivalent of this is when a parent sees news footage of his child committing a crime and subsequently turns the child in to the police. If parents know their child is acting in a way that endangers society, they are responsible to obey the civil authorities and report the crime.
The punishment was designed to preserve the nation. As verse 21 explains, the reason for this law was to purge evil from society and act as a deterrent to further rebellion. Israel was a nation chosen by God to be holy (Exodus 20:6). God gave the Israelites three types of laws: judicial, moral, and ceremonial. This is a judicial law. A child who was actively and deliberately rejecting the laws of the land needed to be punished judicially.
Which brings us to the last and most important factor:
Rebellion against one’s parents is direct rebellion against God. The 5th Command is to honor one’s father and mother (Exodus 20:12). Parents are a God-ordained authority. Disobedience to parents is disobedience to God (Ephesians 6:1-3). Throughout the Bible, there are only a handful of things we are told to fear: God (Proverbs 1:7) and parents (Leviticus 19:3) are among them.
The law requiring rebellious children to be stoned to death was meant for extreme cases to protect God’s people. It would have been heartbreaking for parents to bear the responsibility of initiating such severe measures. However, the Bible never records this law being enforced.
(https://www.gotquestions.org/stone-rebellious-children.html)
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So do you agree with Jesus that the law requiring rebellious children to be stoned to death should be upheld just as the commandment to honour ones parents should be?
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Paul got it wrong. According to Ezekiel 37, the Jews are supposed to live under God’s law forever.
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Exactly. And so does St Paul in Romans 1. Fortunately Christianity is a religion that develops over time and has Jesus refusing to condemn the woman caught in adultery
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The story of the woman caught in adultery is a forgery.
Jesus actually folowed the law and taught his disciples to do the same.
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Then what was all that plucking out your eye talk? That woman caught in adultery should have been plucked according to the standard christian god set in matthew.if the woman was truly guilty of the sin, jesus should have been the first one to pick up the stone.
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I don’t think it was a forgery as such – it was certainly added in later to the text, but this just shows that Christianity was developing.
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the historical evidence suggests there were a number of diverse Christianities in the early centuries with very different beliefs.
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“I don’t think it was a forgery as such – it was certainly added in later to the text, but this just shows that Christianity was developing.”
If it wad added later, then it is a forgery by definition. Think about it. The story is not found in any of the other gospels or even the other canonical books of the NT. Even the gospel of John, which is already so different from the synoptic gospels, did not originally have this story. Where did it come from then?
I agree that Christianity was developing. But this means that it was going further and further away from the original teachings of Jesus (pbuh) as it developed.
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