Islam’s confession, ‘There is no god except God’, dethrones the state as God. God is the true and sole sovereign of the ummah in law & morals. For Muslims, the test of divine sovereignty is the power to legally revoke, in the name of God, secular law itself.
Muslims charge that, in secular legal codes, God’s rights (huquq Allah) over his human servants are neglected in favour of absolute human rights (huquq Adami). Islam, as a juristic monotheism, claims to balance these sets of rights. The Quran is not fully compatible with a secular notion of human rights and does not deliver the same set of rights. Thus, for example, even the de jure rights of Muslim women – and these are remarkably extensive in Islamic law though not in Muslim practice – differ from those secured by a Western feminism determined to achieve maximal rights for women while, from certain viewpoints, potentially neglecting the rights of the family and the legitimate grievances of men.
Shabbir Akhtar, Islam as Political Religion: The Future of an Imperial Faith, p. 150.
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Scary. Glaring problem is that Muslims never agree on what God’s laws are.
Secular law and government is way better than a system decided by a few religious men squabbling over the correct interpretation of a man in the 7th centriy
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Divine Law is always to be prefered to fallible human laws. Why? Because He made us by His wisdom and knows better than we how to order our lives successfully.
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Lol Cerberus. Explain that to Ezekiel. He thought that God’s law would be established forever. This was not secular law, but the law of the Torah.
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cheberis, don’t you know that your god said that his torah is easy to keep without the need of blood tokens?
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That’s like saying a boat set adrift in the open ocean is more stable than one moored securely, just because different people used diffetent knots.
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this is simply not true. Look to Saudia Arabia. There we have a much more united staate as any other secular state in the world. Dont start lying that all Saudis would hate the King and the Religion and would love to life like western societies. This is simple not true and and Illusion of the Media who is highlighting every singel Person n saudia, who is not happy with the islamic law in saudia. So you see, it is possible to become united behind one understanding of gods law. The reason why most other countries dont do as saudia or why why find outside of saudia a lot of argumentations about the true undertanding of Gods law is that theese Muslims in thees countries in most cases simply dont like the true islamic law, because of their sinfull character. Thats the sad reality. In Marroco most Women dont want Gods Law in all cases, because they dont want to walk around like the woman in Saudia. Other wont to drink alkohol others wont to do this others that, other are in sects so have cant promote the true law of koran, because it would be against them. So the koran has no interpretation problem, simply most muslims in the world just dont realy want to live islamicly 100% this is in most cases because of misunderstandings and because of propaganda from the west. So the Muslim think, if they would follow Koran law, they would fall back and would end up weeker as before. So they think if they want to become as powerfull as the west, they would have to follow and implement western laws. This is a lie from the west. And with this lie, the devided the Muslims. If the Muslims would returen to the clear Law of Koran they would be united and strong and this is nightmaire of western Societies. So stop claiming Koran low whould not be clear. You have the Koran, not 100 Bibel versions. And you have the explenation of the prophet and the sahaba. So if a lot of persons does not follow this, this does not mean, that the law would not be there. If a dictator of a countrie is making so much propaganda, that most of the population of his country leave the law behind and follow him. Would you then say, the law is not there ore clear? No, the law is there, clear even if a lot persons are violiting it. And I said. A lot of Muslims are following Koranic law united and even organized in Countries. and the oposite of your statement is true. Secular states are not united! look at the US look at Europe. This is what you call united? What we see their? The diffrent groups are secular and are not united, so we have a neoliberal elite who is taking control over everything threw money and power and the people are discussing about right or left, this or that, about everything, but the money is ruling, not the people. The people have no power, because they gave their power away when they became secular. Becoming secular means. to leave the law for this rich and powerfull, because if everyone can beleave and say everything, we will have 1000 voices and then the voice of money will be the one and only powerfull voice and everyone will follow, claiming to be christian, claiming to be right, claiming to be left, claiming to be muslim, claiming to be this, it doesnt matter you are all secular, you are all slaves of the money. koranic law is the only alternative for this. this is why islam is spreading, even secular people are hating it. you will see, islam is the solution for the problems.
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Tell me then what Allah has got to say about e.g. road speed limits.
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Slow down
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its simple. in koranic law you have two opinios about speed limits. but the strongest ist, that they have to be followed. why? Because the leader in general has to be followed. Only if he his violating koranic law you dont have to follow him. so if the leader says to me, do not drive faster then this, I have to follow, otherwise I would do a sin. Especially because this speed limit can help to reduce killing of Muslims and the koranic evidence for this genarel Rule are clear and much. Shaykh albani said, that you dont have to respect the speed limits, because the prophet was traveling with speed in walking and in riding. But this is a week evidence, because first of all. Horsriding or walking with speed is not that much dangerous as Car driving. If a horserider know how to ride he will not be such a great danger as a Car driver. And even if you have this opinion that traveling with high speed is from the sunna, then you stil have to follow the leader if he has another opinion. Because if you are not traveling with highspeed you are not doing a sin, even if it is sunna to do so. This is not my talk this is the talk of the scholars of islam like shaykh bin baz, go and search for it. And this is based upon principels who are well proven in sharia law. The problem for people like you is, you only read my short answere then the short answere of any muslims who have no idea, about what they are talking. and they you think: ‘ok in islam you can interpret everything from koran’ no this is not true. The people are talking nonsense thats all. If you are asking in a english pup about the US law, you will also get 100 diffrent answeres, and it will be hard to now which is the truth. If you want to know the truth you have to study US Law. The same is for Koranic Law you have to study Koran and Sunna in the understanding of the Prophet and the Sahaba, then you know about the true law, and about what the people are talking.
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I think you just made that up, Burhanuddin…
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…or did Jibreel tell you what to say?
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Sometimes it seems that some people are willfully dense.
Hmm, let’s see. What does Islamic law say about speeding? Well, nothing specific but it should be obvious to any nitwit that speeding would be prohibited because it is dangerous to oneself and to others. It’s not really that difficult to understand but like I said, some people are willfully dense.
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No HS or my personal Jesus Lol
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‘ولا تلقو بأيديكم إلى التهلكة’
‘And do not throw yourselves into destruction’ Quran 2v195
‘وعباد الرحمن الذين يمشون على الأرض هونا وإذا خاطبهم الجاهلون قالوا سلاما’
And the bondmen of The All-
Merciful are the ones who walk on the earth GENTLY, and when the ignorant address them, they say,
“Peace! (Surah Furqan verse 63)
Guess the Quran did talk about speed limits afterall. Nonsense!
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I explain you something else about sharia law. Sharia law is build upon principels and clear general rulings and special caserulings. The principels are like the Human rights in most western laws. The general Rulings are clear in Koran and Sunna like that Alcohol is not allowed. And then you have special rulings about individual cases in indivudal times. This last section is the only section where you have a lot of diffrent opinions. But this does not meen, that everything can be called islamic law! The same case is in any other law. One court can come to another Ruling then another court, but this does not mean, that every ruling can be made. The speed limit as I said is clearly answered threw the general principels. First that Muslims lives must be protected. Second that the profite of muslime lives is more importend then the freedom of speedtraveling. because as I Said if you say that speedtraveling is sunna, then it is not sinfull, to leave it, especially if you are scared about killing muslims. and third you have the principel that in general you have to follow the leader as long he is not clearly violaiting koranic law. So you see you get a clear answhere about that problem, based upon clear principels, proven with clear evidence. The Problem is you dont know about thees evidence, so its seems for you to be just my opinion and the next muslim can have another. yes he can, but then this is not the koranic law, but his talk without knowledge.
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OK, Allah says nothing about road speed limits (-check-). There is of course a slight possibility that He just provided Burhanuddin with the answer “Slow down”, via the angel Jibreel. But I think we can rule that out. Because it is simply not always correct. Not if you drive too slow to begin with for instance.
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I guess your holy spirit just didn’t give you common sense.
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But what we can’t rule out is that God created you with no brains or at best with a brain made of fishmeal. It’s hardly surprising that you are a christian.
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your argumentation is not an argumentation. Koranic law is not talking about some offensive behaviors like showing someone the finger and say fuck you. but koran law is talking about offensive behavior in general. so koran law can judge about a person who showed to finger to another person even there is not direct evidence in Koranic law. Koranic law can use the ‘urf’ of the people as prove of something. For example some Behavior in some times had been offensive and then the time is changing and is not. So the Koran has no answhere? He has, because the ulama, the scolarss can refer to the urf. or the ulama can refer to medicin and knowledge. So koranic law can easily face all problems in all times and all sociities, because it is build upon principels. e.a. abortion. Western secular people have 1000 diffrent opinions about abortion and they can not find a united ruling for that. Some are against it, some are for it. some say before 1 month okay, some 2, some three, some say always, some say only with reason and so on. many diffrent opinions. In Islamic Law you have a clear time when the soul is entering the body. so before it you can make abortion. after it, it would be killing of the baby. now you have to ask, can we do it before the 40 without reason? No because in Islam you have to go with the higher profite. if we are killing the embryo even is ha not soul we are reducing the change for the muslims to grow in number. We want this embryo to become a Muslim. and the abortion cant be done without reason, but if the mother is in dangour or if the family would face realy strong problems, it could be done, before the 40. days. after the 40 days it can be only done if the doctor says that the mother will die otherwise. Of corse he cant say this 100%, but he can say it in general. In this case the abortion can be even done after 40 days. because in most cases the live of the mother is more important then the life of the baby. because a lot of other people and children are depended on the mother and in most of theese cases the baby would die togehter with the mother. so you see you have a clear ruling, and of corse every court can differ in special cases, but the general ruling about abortion is clear. more clear as in every secular society. christians or atheist have no proove when the soul is entering.
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…which is why we should thank God for secular laws.
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Because your holy spirit hasn’t given you common sense…Got it.
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you reduce sharia law, to the koran. So everything which is not directly based upon koran is not sharia law, but secular law. this is crazy. Sharia Law is reffering to the koran and the sunna AND the understanding of Muhammad and the Sahaba and the salaf in general. So Sharia law can get a clear answere to all problems based upon that understanding. Most Muslims dont like that understanding because they started to follow the lies of secular western propaganda persons, but this does not mean that they could follow if. And nobody need secular law, as we have the law of muhammad and his companions.
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