I am going to be frank with you, you’ll be hard pressed to find Christians dedicated to trying to reduce this problem. You’ll easily find Christians investing time, energy and money in attacking Muslims and Islam on and offline. Priorities?
Saudi Arabia, India and Indonesia (all countries which have been in English language press for opposition to Valentines Day) are amongst those that have the lowest rates of children born out of wedlock (1% or less).
Now compare that to the Britain where it was reported in 2013 that over 50% of all babies will be born out of wedlock in less than 5 years time. That’s the “Christian” country of Britain.
The countries with the highest rates of children born out of wedlock are historically and culturally Christian countries:
The highest rates of non-marital childbearing occur in Latin America (55–74 percent). The only other countries to share these high rates are South Africa (59 percent) and Sweden (55 percent). The range within Europe is huge: from 18 percent (Italy) to 55 percent (Sweden). Those in North America and Oceania are also high and rising, though New Zealand (47 percent) and the United States (41 percent) stand out, with more than four out of ten births outside of marriage in these two countries.
Notice which countries have the highest rates of children born out wedlock? “CHRISTIAN” countries!
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This is definitely true, but I want to ask, do you think Christians (much less non-Christians) care about marriage and bearing children out of wedlock?
I agree that it’s not good at all because marriage creates stability and if even that is lost then there will be chaos.
A really good book that I got recently called “Life at the bottom” shows how illegitimacy rates have increased for the underclass in Britain, and this just adds to the chaos of the social fabric in that part of society.
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Excellent post
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Do they worry? They don’t like the truth. Jimmy Swaggart, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Pastor Eddie Lee Long, Bill O Reilly(whose TV program is always bashing Islam and Muslims), Anthony Weiner, Eliot Spitzer, Mark Sanford, John Edwards and many, many more who are Christians in all walk of life i.e. politicians, clergy, comedians, news casters are all morally bankrupt.
The evangelical Christians of the USA do not care about these immoralities in their society and will even vote for Donald Trump who came out publicly to brag of touching and kissing MARRIED women. About 80% or more evangelicals voted for Donald Trump to deport Muslims and ban Muslims from entering the USA.
When he said “ban Muslims”, his supporters who are mainly evangelical Christians and white supremacist gave hims standing ovation.
So, the Christians(some) do not care about immorality in their societies but to support anyone who will hate and lie against Muslims.
In Indonesia, Muslims vote for morally good person. They do vote for a person who is a Christian, buddhist etc. with good standings and against a Muslim if they think the Muslim is bad.
USA will never allow a Muslim vice president or a president. Barak Obama had to come and convince them that he is a Christian before they voted for him.
In Iraq, Egypt, Algeria, Indonesia, Lebanon etc. you often see a Christian president, vice president, minister etc. but not in USA.
I know there are good Christians who will vote for a good Muslim against bad Christian in the USA but the overwhelming evangelical Christians will vote for a Christian like Trump who kisses married women than vote for a good Muslim like Keith Ellison who do not have any bad moral history when he became a Muslim. They even did not vote for him to become the DNC Chairman.
Thanks.
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By their fruits( pan intended ) ye shall know them .
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It seems the more time progresses, the more Christianity is being viewed as a the problem. That’s all by design. it’s already been written. ““Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:9-14)
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if every lustful thought = adultery , then jesus made the law of the torah stricter . jesus krist recommended christians that he would not die for their sins of lust, he said PLUCK OUT YOUR DAMN eyes. if one does not stop you from sinning, PLUCK out the other one.
all this PLUCKING business does not seem that this person was a sacrifice for sins. especially not sacrifice for lustful thoughts which have led christian girls to invite boy friends at home and engage in sinful acts.
i am very surprised and shocked that people like madman believe that adultery of thought and act should be PUNISHED by KILLING. this guy is honest enough about his bible command on adultery .
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“The countries with the highest rates of children born out of wedlock are historically and culturally Christian countries”
Exactly, they are historically and culturally Christian. Not theologically Christian.
When I went to Kosovo, a 95% Muslim country, you could buy beer on the streets for a quarter. Is this because of Islam? No, it is because the Kosovars have for the most part abandoned Islam just like Canada, America, and those other historical Christian nations have abandoned the Christian faith.
The West is not Christian.
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‘The West is not Christian.’
Yet the Vatican sits in the heart of Rome.
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Yes it does, and sadly the Vatican these days is a lot less Christian than it should be. In fact, they bear some(by no means all) of the responsibility for why many of these European(former Christian) nations have many out of wedlock births.
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Allan Ruhl
The article is about how will the so called remaining Christians in the West calling themselves evangelical Christians, to bring the Christian morality back and take it as their first priority than bashing Islam and Muslims with more money and resources.
Any proof of more drunkards in Kosovo will be much appreciated than selling beer. Beer is sold in so many Muslim majority countries and the patronage is less as compared to majority Christian countries. More drunkards are in Christian majority countries than in Muslim majority countries where beer is sold.
Dubai allows and turn a blind eye to prostitutes in it’s country because they want tourism and also westernized it. Those patronizing the prostitutes are mainly tourists. I am not saying some natives don’t patronize the prostitutes but the prostitutes say it is mainly tourists that patronize them.
Some evangelical will argue, they don’t want Muslims because of terrorism, but they forgot they voted for Bush to sent war to Iraq and that brought isis. They also forgot, there is no single Muslim terrorist in the whole West in 1960, 68, 70 until they started voted for their politicians to invade Muslim majority countries.
Iraq vice president was a Christian before Bush invaded that country.
Thanks.
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Hi Intellect,
I actually agree with most of what you said. Don’t think I defend the actions of the West. I’m very anti-West even though I live in a Western country. I certainly don’t agree with their foreign policy(or domestic policy for that matter).
Here is a post on my blog where I attack the West. One of many examples.
http://allanruhl.com/the-false-god-of-lauren-southern/
How will the West be won back to Christian morality? I have no idea. God didn’t promise that the “West” would remain Christian. He simply promised us that his Church would be preserved – Matthew 16.
Regarding Kosovo, I’m not trying to strike back a blow or anything. My point was that this selling beer on the streets of Pristina(outside of the hotel where I was staying) has nothing to do with Islam. You said that beer is sold in many Muslim countries. You’re correct and that’s because those who sell and purchase beer have turned their back on Islam. You would agree with me on this I assume.
Most Jews in the West have eaten pork. Do we blame Judaism for this? No, we simply point out that Jews turned their backs on Judaism when they did this.
As I said, the West is no longer Christian.
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the west left its first love (Jesus Christ, and His truth and the Word of God) for secularism (slowly over last 100 years; and quickly over the last 30 years and all the sexual immorality that you are talking about.
1 Thessalonians 4:3
3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immorality;
4 that each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor,
Britain is not Christian, come on Yahya and Paul, and you guys know it – it used to be; but not anymore.
Allan Ruhl is right on this one.
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The fact is christians are less restrictive in regard to sexual conduct compared to muslims this is the root of the problem. In every part of the world you can simply compare the way christian and muslim women dress for a start, in general christians wear dress which considered indecent or immoral dress by biblical standard than muslim women. Yet Iv never heard christian preachers openly criticise their women for doing so, in the other hand urging women to cover up the way muslim women must dress is one of most heard sermon you will hear from muslim preachers.
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Yes, excellent post Yahya.
And what is even worse than out of wedlock babies is the abortion of babies. No one knows when the soul is put in the body. And pain receptors are made extremely early in the embryo/fetus. And thus this being feels pain when killed in an abortion.
And the rate of out of wedlock babies would probably be even higher if the abortions were not done.
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Jimmy Swaggart, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Pastor Eddie Lee Long, Bill O Reilly(whose TV program is always bashing Islam and Muslims), Anthony Weiner, Eliot Spitzer, Mark Sanford, John Edwards and many, many more who are Christians in all walk of life i.e. politicians, clergy, comedians, news casters are all morally bankrupt.
The evangelical Christians of the USA do not care about these immoralities in their society and will even vote for Donald Trump who came out publicly to brag of touching and kissing MARRIED women.
Trump is not a Christian, duh !! ; Weiner is a Jewish secular liberal politician, etc. Eddie Long was exposed as pedophile, Word of Faith prosperity teacher heretic; Cosby never claimed to be an Evangelical (disgusting – what he did); Clinton – my goodness, it is obvious he is not a Christian. Eliot Spitzer never claimed to be a Christian; he is also a Jewish man, but raised secular/non-religious. John Edwards never claimed any Christianity.
Swaggart and Sanford – hypocrites.
O’Reilly – he is liberal Roman Catholic who holds to SOME conservative views; but the charges against him have yet to be proven.
From Wikipedia:
Spitzer was born in the Bronx; he was the son of Anne (née Goldhaber), an English literature professor, and Bernard Spitzer, a real estate mogul.[5][6] His paternal grandparents were Galician Jews, born in Tluste, Poland, now Ukraine. His maternal grandparents, born in the 1890s, were Jewish emigrants from Palestine.[5][7][8][9][10][11] Spitzer is the youngest of three children. He was raised in the affluent Riverdale section of The Bronx in New York City. His family was not religious, and Spitzer did not have a Bar Mitzvah.[7][8][9][12]
The Bible never approves of their behavior.
Galatians 5:19-21 indicates that they are not true believers.
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Intellect,
You need to do better than that. most of those you listed don’t even claim to be Christian or Evangelicals.
Some are Jews and some are secular liberal agnostic – atheists. Only Swaggart and Long claimed an Evangelical faith; but Long was a heretic.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
Matthew 7:22-23
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Thanks Ken, for the correction. Much appreciated. I will remove the 2 Jews and add these well known evangelical pastors who are engaged in sexual immorality..
1, Jim Bakker
2. Ted Haggard
4. Marcus Lamb
5. Earl Paulk (Mentor of Eddie Lee Long)
6. Tony Alamo
And many more. I thought the Holy Spirit is in these well known evangelical pastors. It proves that the Christians are not free from sin. They are not different from us at all. They are even worse than us. We know we we responsible of of our sins and not the blood of Jesus and so we fear about sin. These Pastors and their congregation knew their sins have already been paid by Jesus, so they go on sinning here and there.
Thanks.
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Don’t know much about Jim Bakker after his fall, but at the time, he was a false teacher of the Word of Faith Prosperity teachings – a heretic – and led a double life of sexual sin and went to prison for cheating lots of people out of money.
Earl Paulk – also taught many heretical doctrines.
Ted Haggard – a very confused and troubled person; I have not investigated the details much, but the root of all these you mention is probably tied to their bad theology – bad Charismatic/ Pentecostal Theology.
Not that all Charismatics or Pentecostals are bad – some are balanced, godly , and discerning; but the overall movement has many many problems with it.
do research on the whole Charismatic Chaos – “Strange Fire” by John MacArthur exposes all the problems. (sometimes they went over-board in their criticisms of some good “continualists” (those that believe miracle gifts are still operating today), but overall, they are right.)
Scroll down and you can listen to these messages for free. (the CDs are $30, but they are also all for free on the web.)
https://www.gty.org/store/topical-series-store/325/strange-fire-conference
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correction.
…responsible for our sins
…so we fear sin
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“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom”
Proverbs 1:7; 9:10
“the fear of the LORD is to hate evil . . . ”
Proverbs 8:13
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Tony Alamo was a cultist – not even an orthodox Christian. Terrible examples. Mostly heretics who taught Prosperity theology. (that God wants you rich, wealthy, no problems, always healed and healthy – this is such an obvious heresy and they all discredited themselves.
I have written many articles on the problems with the “Word of Faith” (thinking what you say/speak out load will bring about your prosperity, success, and healing) Prosperity movement. Here is one of them.
https://apologeticsandagape.wordpress.com/2013/10/23/overview-of-the-word-of-faith-movement-false-teachings-of-joyce-meyer-joel-osteen/
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Ken Temple
Do not use my mistake to preach. I made a mistake and tried to correct myself, but you cease on it to preach to me. You know very well that I am trying to mean that I fear to do sin because Allah says we must not do sin. That is what I mean. I hope you get it now. When we do sin, we are responsible for the sin but by sincerely repenting, Allah can forgive us free of charge or any blood if he wills.
madmanna has agreed to this on another thread. He said, if God chose to forgive sins to babies and others who do not believe Jesus died for their sins, we are we to challenge God.
Yes, God is sovereign and not binding to the law He created for us human being. He has His majestic discretion and no one can challenge him.
If you say he must come down and satisfy justice like human beings, then it is an injustice for a non Christian who got by abused, raped and beaten by a Christian.
The Christian God will put the Christian abuser in heaven and put the Christian’s rape victim in hell. What kind of injustice is this by a Christian God.
Christians rapes and put to heaven because he believed Jesus died for his sins, but his non Christians victim will put in hell. What kind of justice is this?
May God forbids for my friend Dr. James White to be caught in illegal sex. If that should happen, Ken Temple will say Dr. James White had never been Christian. He will say his former mentor is a heretic and will call him names like he is doing to the above evangelical pastors who were caught in illegal sexual acts.
Every Christian who is bad, Ken will say that Christian was not a Christian. Are you in the heart and mind of those Christians to say they weren’t Christians? Are you God to know peoples’s mind and heart to know they were not Christians? Sorry, we will not take your mind and discretion for this one.
Thanks.
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https://thinkprogress.org/students-say-evangelical-college-turned-a-blind-eye-to-serial-rapists-125043f31bb9
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I like the fact that u speak nothing but the truth! It’s rare to find nowadays…
I recently also started a blog in which i will share nothing but the truth in it
Follow me @ruqiyajannathi
#IslamIs4TruthOrSilence
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