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  1. Enlightenment Western philosophers were mostly racists:

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    For example Voltaire who said:

    > Their round eyes, their flattened nose, their lips which are always large, their differently shaped ears, the wool of their head, that very measure of their intelligence, place prodigious differences between them and the other species of men.

    > And they are not men, except in their stature, with the faculty of speech and thought at a degree far distant to ours. Such are the ones that I have seen and examined.

    > And one could say that if their intelligence is not of another species than ours, then it is greatly inferior. They are not capable of paying much attention; they mingle very little, and they do not appear to be made either for the advantages or the abuses of our philosophy.

    > And it is a big question whether among them they are descendants of monkeys, or if monkeys come from them. Our wise men have said that man is the image of God: behold a pleasant image of the eternal Being with a flat black nose, with little or no intelligence! A time will come, without a doubt, when these animals will know how to cultivate the earth well, to embellish it with houses and gardens, and to know the routes of the stars. Time is a must, for everything.

    David Hume who said:

    > I am apt to suspect the N****s, and in general all other species of men, to be naturally inferior to the whites. There never was any civilized nation of any other complexion than white, nor even any individual eminent in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures among them, no arts, no sciences… Such a uniform and constant difference could not happen, in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction between these breeds of men

    Emmanuel Kant, another philosopher had this to say:

    > The N****s of Africa have not received any intelligence from Nature that rises above foolishness. Mr. Hume challenges anyone to suggest even one example of a n**** who has displayed any talent. As he himself verifies, among the hundreds of thousands of blacks who have wandered far away from their homelands, even though many of them have been liberated, not one exists who has succeeded in anything great, either in the arts or the sciences or in any other noteworthy thing. On the contrary, among the whites, people continuously rise above the low point that they were and they evolve through their superior qualifications, attaining worldly fame. The difference therefore between the two races is an essential one: It appears to be equally big, both with regard to the capabilities of the mind, as well as to the color.

    Some scholars even propose that modern European racism has its roots in the “Enlightenment” movement.

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    • Arab and Ottoman slave trades
      And you can find many famous Muslims saying “racist” stuff like Ibn Khaldun

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    • @norcal

      Muslims take their religion from their very core source that have been preserved to our day – the Qur’an and Sunnah – and nobody can change nor distort their anti-racism message and that all of humanity originated from Adam (as well as that freeing slaves is one of the best deeds a Muslim can make, and it’s literally one of the prescribed ways of distributing the charity-tax zakat Q.9:60). If a later Muslim supposedly contradicts that then it has no bearing on the message.

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    • @norcal lies time and time again
      I think I’ve made like three comments on this blog in total so thats an odd name you have haha and I don’t doubt that Islam is anti discrimination. I’m just saying that its stupid to just blame whitey for everything and pick out statements from a bygone era.

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    • I have a professor that mentioned that ignominious Hume footnote.

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  2. Paul, you already posted this honey…

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  3. Mohammed’s quote doesn’t make any sense.

    It sounds like he is saying arabs are inferior to non-arabs when it comes to god consciousness – that makes him bigoted towards arabs.

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    • @Joel

      You’re pathetic, nowhere does it suggest that, as it says: “No Arab is better than a non-Arab, nor a non-Arab better than an Arab …”

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    • LOL, so he was a self-hater?

      Reason can never reach you brainwashed monkeys! It seems you hate Islam so much that everything is bad about it.

      How is the tampon obsession, little Coco?

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    • qb

      Who knows? Most of the traditions about him were written well after he died. We simply cannot know whether the things that muslims believe he said were actually said by him. Either way, whoever said those words attributed to mohammed in the article was an idiot – it makes no sense for the reasons already mentioned.

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    • @Joel

      That’s a gross lie that only shows your deep ignorance, hadiths were written down in his very life and after, for example the Sahifah of Hammam ibn Munabbih which was written by a student of the companion Abu Hurayrah, which has been published and you can look it up (over 90 hadiths in it – of a total of 140 or so – are already contained in the two Sahihs and the rest of the six canonical books with different narrations as well as this narration Abu Hurayrah -> Hammam b. Munabbih)

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    • LOL, you idiot! I was merely showing how stupid you are for claiming that Muhammad (pbuh) was bigoted towards Arabs. I am showing how you idiots are so full of hate, you demonize Islam any chance you get.

      The Prophet’s statement shows that no one has superiority over another based on their ethnicity. Rather, superiority in God’s eye is based on piety. So it’s not whether you’re Arab or non-Arab, black or white, it is whether you are pious before God. This was a revolutionary concept which contradicted the Biblical standards of racism.

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    • “Who knows? Most of the traditions about him were written well after he died. We simply cannot know whether the things that muslims believe he said were actually said by him”

      Really? You’re so fucking stupid you bring this up again? We have an oral tradtion which is known. You have an oral tradition which is UNKNOWN.

      And btw throw out 70% of your pornbook cus the OT was transmitted orally (for MANY hundreds of years). And this is an UNKNOWN oral tradition too.
      O dear o dear!

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    • Muslims- is this the type of behaviour that impresses Allah?

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    • Paulus,

      IsJoel’s behaviour exemplary of a Christian ?

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    • ICSYLM

      “You’re pathetic, nowhere does it suggest that, as it says: “No Arab is better than a non-Arab, nor a non-Arab better than an Arab …””

      You moron.

      Your prophet minced his words – he clearly says that non-arabs are superior to arabs in god consciousness. Can you even read?

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    • TLOJ

      “That’s a gross lie that only shows your deep ignorance, hadiths were written down in his very life and after, for example the Sahifah of Hammam ibn Munabbih which was written by a student of the companion Abu Hurayrah, which has been published and you can look it up (over 90 hadiths in it – of a total of 140 or so – are already contained in the two Sahihs and the rest of the six canonical books with different narrations as well as this narration Abu Hurayrah -> Hammam b. Munabbih)”

      It is not a gross lie, it is a profound truth – your man god’s traditions were written down years after the events.

      Also, please show me the original copies of these supposed in the moment hadith – they don’t exist. Even worse hadith inflation is a huge problem for islam – as you admit, the traditions went from 90 to 140 traditions, up to a whopping 4000-9000 in the later hadith collections.

      Fishy.

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    • qb

      “The Prophet’s statement shows that no one has superiority over another based on their ethnicity. Rather, superiority in God’s eye is based on piety. So it’s not whether you’re Arab or non-Arab, black or white, it is whether you are pious before God. This was a revolutionary concept which contradicted the Biblical standards of racism.”

      You imbecile.

      Classic islamic fibs – takes a couple of line of nonsense quotes form your prophet and expand the meaning to such an extent that you have literally made up stuff. LOL!! So, so stupid.

      Your prophet clearly states that a non-arab is better than an arab in god consciousness – it is as clear as day.

      How stupid can you be – it is right there in black and white you moron.

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    • Joel

      You said;
      It is not a gross lie, it is a profound truth – your man god’s traditions were written down years after the events.

      I say;
      Man God’s tradition? I did not know you had a problem with worshiping God Man-Jesus. It does not matter when you change the position. Either God Man or Man God it is the same and that who said you worship i.e. a man and God at the same time. You now realized how idolatry and polytheist you are by cursing the worship of man God.

      I am happy to tell you that no Muslim worships prophet Mohammed but all Muslims worship Allah the creator of Mohammed, Jesus, Moses etc. whom Jesus said; the Father is the only true God who sent him(Jesus) and the only true God is not Jesus.

      I am happy you are against the worship of God Man or Man God and that is what you are doing. Will you stop that before it is too late?

      Thanks.

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    • Tiyaan, you have to understand that these Christians are hypocrites. That is the fruit of their religion. Cerbie the neutered dog of hell (that’s Paulus) complains about brother Partridge’s use of bad language (which I don’t condone) but says nothing about his own insults or the insults of his brethren. That is why we don’t have to take him seriously. Rather, just mock him and expose this liar for Jesus and his false religion.

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  4. I think that you have completely missed the most significant point of Lincoln’s statement – through reason, and christian compassion, he took his country into a brutal civil war to free a group of human beings he believed to be inferior.

    This is self-sacrifice – mohammed taught that muslims should sacrifice others for muslims’ own salvation, Lincoln went against his own base, tribal instincts to free slaves,

    Lincoln – even with his flaws – is far superior to mohammed in god consciousness.

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    • Joel

      Yes, Licoln fought to free slaves from the shackles of Christians. Christians who killed and persecuted Catholics, the Christians killed Jews and Mormons. The Christians splinter group of kkk will burn a Christians cross before hanging, burning or killing blacks. The Christians did not allow a ship load of Jews fleeing persecution from other Christians in Europe to enter into the waters of USA. These poor Jewish immigrants were refused entry into the USA and the ship went back to Europe and most of the Jews in the ship were killed in the holocaust. Where is the stupid Judeo-Christian values here?

      It was the Muslim who chattered ship to go to Europe and to evacuate all the Jews to Muslim lands and that is why there are still Jews in Muslim lands today. So, what you say against our prophet is wrong. If they think like what you say, they will not have saved anyone.

      The Christians are acting like Jesus when in anger he destroyed people’s property for not obeying him despite being under the Roman rule. That is why Jesus said this;

      Luke 19:27
      New International Version
      But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.’

      and the Christians are following it to kill.

      Thanks.

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    • intellect

      Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib: A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.

      Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4349

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:
      Some people raided the camels of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), drove them off, and apostatised. They killed the herdsman of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who was a believer. He (the Prophet) sent (people) in pursuit of them and they were caught. He had their hands and feet cut off, and their eyes put out. The verse regarding fighting against Allah and His Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was then revealed. These were the people about whom Anas ibn Malik informed al-Hajjaj when he asked him.

      Dawud Book 38, Number 4356

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:

      The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) had a man’s hand cut off who had stolen from the place reserved for women a shield whose price was three dirhams.

      Dawud Book 38, Number 4373

      Narrated AbuBakrah:

      The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) had a woman stoned and a pit was dug up to her breasts.

      Dawud Book 38, Number 4429

      The list of your profit’s extreme cruelty and brutality goes on – there are entire hadith books devoted to describing how he maimed, tortured and murdered people. But the best you can come with for your lies about christian violence is one verse from luke that is a mere parable and not a command at all.

      LOL!! Go and worship your goat god and his blood-thirsty profit. Imbecile.

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    • Hahahaha, pathetic historical revisionism!!

      Christians tried hard to hold on to their slaves and that is why the southern states seceded from the union and started the civil war. Even when the northern states were debating the amendment to abolish slavery, many of those opposed to it did so on the basis of the Bible. Mark Twain famously once famously said:

      “There was no place in the land where the seeker could not find some small budding sign of pity for the slave. No place in all the land but one – the pulpit. It yielded last; it always does. It fought a strong and stubborn fight, and then did what it always does, joined the procession – at the tail end. Slavery fell. The slavery texts in the Bible remained; the practice changed; that was all.”

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    • qb

      LOL!! Poor stupid qb.

      Your profit was brutal and cruel and set an example that was horrific even y the standards of the 7th century.

      “Even when the northern states were debating the amendment to abolish slavery, many of those opposed to it did so on the basis of the Bible. “

      LOL11 You desperate imbecile.

      Now you ahve to change the subject to avoid addressing the incoherence of your prophet and his savage behaviour.

      The fact is that Lincoln harboured racist views, but his christian compassion and self-sacrifice led him to act in a way counter to his self-interests.

      Mohammed taught sacrifice of others for your own salvation, hence suicide bombers and human sacrifice of apostates. Jesus taught self-sacrifice for salvation, hence racist Lincoln acting against the vested interests of his race.

      Get with the program moron, you just keep embarrassing yourself.

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    • LOL, Coco’s embarrassing performance gets worse by the minute!

      Your desperate attempts to rewrite history and whitewash Christianity’s role in prolonging slavery show what a liar for Jesus you are. What a great Christian taqiyyist you are!

      Lincoln’s racist views were based on the Bible, you idiot. Centuries of white racism in America were based on the Bible. As Mark Twain had observed, the last remaining opposition to ending slavery came from Christians. They opposed it all the way to the end.

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    • qb

      “Lincoln’s racist views were based on the Bible, you idiot. “

      What does that have to do with your for profit prophet going around cutting off people’s hand and feet, gouging out their eyes, stoning them to death, or otherwise making everyone’s life a total and utter living totalitarian hell?

      Don’t run away this time imbecile – your tampax will leave a trail behind you.

      Like I said, mohammed taught that muslims must sacrifice others fr their own salvation – our lord, god and saviour jesus exemplified self-sacrifice to save others.

      Lincoln clearly followed jesus’ example – he was willing to sacrifice the power of his own people for the benefit of others.

      Mohammed cut off people’s hands and feet, stoned them to death, and had sex with children. Not much self-sacrifice there I’m afraid.

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  5. Uhh Muhammad considered his Arab slaves superior to his black slaves. Described Ethiopians as ‘raisin heads’. Called his black slaves ‘pug noses’. Stated Satan looks like a black man. Nicknamed one of his black slaves the ‘ship’ because he and his companions would cruelly make him carry everything. And declared that Allah made Adam’s white offspring for paradise and the blacks for hell.

    Once again you’re guilty of posting a nonsensical meme without thinking it through first, Bilal.

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  6. Lincoln’s statement in the meme is taken of context and clipped – he was saying he is not in favor of a violent abolition of turning everything over by force – but he was arguing that the Blacks (slaves should be freed) had the rights of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” based on the constitution. It was from his debate vs. Stephen Douglas in Charleston, SC.

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    • whitewash. He believed that blacks should be sent back to Africa. He was a white supremacist.

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    • Here’s the complete quote:

      «I will say, then, that I AM NOT NOR HAVE EVER BEEN in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the black and white races—that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with White people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the White and black races which will ever FORBID the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the White race»: 4th Lincoln-Douglas debate, 18 ix. Collected Works, Vol.3, pp.145-146

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    • very few Americans (including Ken) seem to be aware of Lincoln’s indisputable racism and white supremacism.

      Today Lincoln would be called a neo-Nazi.

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    • It seems obvious that Lincoln evolved in his views – the quotes are from before the Civil War, and his views seems to have changed after those quotes.

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  7. HAHAHA, Coco the dancing, tampon-obsessed chandelier monkey now has shown that he has reading comprehension problems!

    “You imbecile.

    Classic islamic fibs – takes a couple of line of nonsense quotes form your prophet and expand the meaning to such an extent that you have literally made up stuff. LOL!! So, so stupid.

    Your prophet clearly states that a non-arab is better than an arab in god consciousness – it is as clear as day.

    How stupid can you be – it is right there in black and white you moron.”

    ROFTL!! I don’t think I even have to respond to this. The monkey’s stupidity is self-evident.

    “An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab…except in God-consciousness.”

    Hmmm…yep it’s right there in “black and white” you moron!!!

    You can’t make this stuff up folks! This is the best that Christianity has to offer!

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    • qb

      “a non-Arab is not better than an Arab…except in God-consciousness.””

      “A non-arab is not better than an arab except in god consciousness”. – it doesn’t get clearer than that you moron a non-arab is better in god consciousness.

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    • Joel,

      Why do you cut the part where it says “An Arab is not better than a non-Arab”. ?

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    • LOL, isn’t it obvious Tiyaan? Coco has reading comprehension problems! I wonder if any of his Christian brethren will step in soon to show him what an embarrassment this latest train-wreck of his has become.

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    • Tiyaan
      November 13, 2017 • 9:49 am
      Joel,

      Why do you cut the part where it says “An Arab is not better than a non-Arab”. ?

      I say;
      Joel cannot stand the truth of Islam unless he cut and past intentionally to deceive. What makes Joel a foo is that, he does that on an Islamic blog thinking he can deceive Muslims. Joel, out of his desperation to attack Islam will use god man or man god against Islam on an Islamic blog. It is Christians who are worshiping Jesus whom they claim is God, man, God man/man God, Son, Father, not Father, Trinity, hypostasis etc. at the same time.

      No Muslim ever claimed he worships man God but Joel is using man God which Christians use and worship against Islam. This shows Joel’s desperation to attack Islam to the extent of using his Christian believe against Islam. Joel you are pathetic. Stop that God man/man God worship and repent before it is too later otherwise your abode will be in deep hell fire. Do not say 3, desist, it is better for you.

      Thanks.

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  8. Coco, the dancing monkey is at it again!

    “What does that have to do with your for profit prophet going around cutting off people’s hand and feet, gouging out their eyes, stoning them to death, or otherwise making everyone’s life a total and utter living totalitarian hell?

    Don’t run away this time imbecile – your tampax will leave a trail behind you.”

    Hahahaha, that is a different thread you idiot! I have been pummeling your brother in stupidity Cerbie on the other thread. See you there, unless you run of course!

    “Like I said, mohammed taught that muslims must sacrifice others fr their own salvation – our lord, god and saviour jesus exemplified self-sacrifice to save others.

    Lincoln clearly followed jesus’ example – he was willing to sacrifice the power of his own people for the benefit of others.

    Mohammed cut off people’s hands and feet, stoned them to death, and had sex with children. Not much self-sacrifice there I’m afraid.”

    Oh, the hilarity and the pathetic historical revisionism! My sides will split from all the laughing!

    Lincoln held to the racist beliefs of his time, which was also taught by the church, as Twain observed. I have noticed how you keep running from this fact. Racial superiority is taught in the Bible, you moron. Your pathetic revisions only fool yourself.

    And by the way moron, your Jesus was also a racist! He made a poor Gentile woman admit she was a dog before he would help her. See what happens when you open your mouth? You shot yourself in the foot and further exposed the racism that is endemic in your religion!

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    • qb

      LOL!! So dumb.

      Now you are even trying to give intelligent answers. MOron.

      Your goat god and his for-profit prophet taught sacrifice of others for your own salvation – that’s why muslims honour kill their own daughters to save themselves, hoping for allah’s goaty, arbitrary mercy to shine their way.

      Get an education imbecile – Lincoln displayed christian self-sacrifice that was far superior to anything mohammed did. EVen a racist like Lincoln was superior to your prophet since he adhered to one of the most central principles of jesus’ teaching.

      Mohammed disobeyed his god by reciting your goat’s holey words inched from menstrual blood and misleading his followers by telling them not to write down his examples – against the explicit command of your goat.

      Owned again! Don’t run away moron. Let’s see you embarrass yourself again.

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    • LOL, a typical imbecilic response from the dancing, tampon-obsessed monkey with reading comprehension problems.

      Your moronic repetitions will not change the fact that the main opposition to Lincoln’s efforts came from Christians. You are an idiot, who only deserves to be laughed at. Who cares what some uneducated, revisionist moron thinks?

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