BBC reports: Anjem Choudary faces UK terrorism charges over Islamic State
Radical preacher Anjem Choudary has appeared at Westminster Magistrates’ Court charged with inviting support for the so-called Islamic State.
He and another man Mohammed Rahman, indicated they would plead not guilty.
Anjem Choudary was remanded in custody until 28 August.
Both men have each been charged with one offence under section 12 of the Terrorism Act 2000, alleged to have taken place between 29 June 2014 and 6 March this year.
The BBC’s Simon Jones, reporting from outside the court, said that when asked by the judge to give an indication of how he would be pleading Choudary said: “Cameron and the police are guilty.”
The judge replied to say he took that to mean he would be pleading not guilty.
Mr Choudary 48, was described in court as a “high-profile figure” in the media and on social media.
The court also heard that the charge is related to him sending messages to his 32,000 followers on Facebook.
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Aww couldn’t have happened to a nicer terrorist. BTW Paul or other Muslims from or living in the UK. Do you know of any programs at your local Masjids that are designed to help dissuade and or prevent Muslim youths from joining ISIS? If you could name one that would be a tremendous help. Thanks
P.S Do any of these programs use that “prevent money”?
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Mosques in London preach against terrorism, for example Regents Park Mosque. None that I am aware of support IS.
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Thanks, but I’m looking for if there are any programs, sports clubs, yuth outreach, workshops etc… that are specifically geared toward prevention? Do you know of any?
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that’s not my area of expertise. Why does this interest you?
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Thats an interesting question. The question should be why isn’t it of interest to you as a “peaceful” Muslim who is against ISIS. Shouldn’t that be a priority to have programs with in the Muslim community and Masjids have positive programs that work with Muslim yuths to dissuade them from joining ISIS.
The Kuffar have after school programs, anti gang programs, interventions, workshop and work programs to prevent their children from joining criminal organizations. Shouldn’t Muslims have similar programs to prevent Muslims from “misunderstanding” Islam and joining ISIS?
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I still would like to know why this is of such great interest to you. I note you are avoiding the question!
Mosques in my experience explain in sermons/workshops & by promoting interfaith dialogue etc what Islam teaches about tolerance, peace and respecting other faiths etc.
See my local mosque for example: http://iccuk.org/
It’s odd how you talk about the “Kuffar”. Are you a Kuffar?
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Well its of interest to me because I don’t think there are such programs because deep down Muslims really do support ISIS. And yes I’m kuffar for life.
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lol. And you keep changing your name and identity to be a troll on my blog. As you have never been to London you know absolutely nothing about this city and its Muslims.
Go and bother someone else.
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” … deep down Muslims really do support ISIS.”
This kind of talk really gives me the creeps. In my opinion it shows beneath all this “enlightened” “democratic” “humanist” “judeo-christian” “loving” mask lurks the well known western supremacist.
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Actually, M_A_N, just in case your “kuffar-dom” has left you with a rest of capacity to think for yourself. In politics you should always ask yourself “cui bono?”.
Do you really believe this phenomenon “ISIS” can only be reduced to “it’s EVIL Islam as always, Islam is always EVIL”? Do you really believe one should view the world today in these categories? Oh dear. Thats’s not enlightened. That’s just plain stupid.
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indeed. But he is a troll. Don’t take him too seriously.
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Burhanuddin1 wrote…”This kind of talk really gives me the creeps. In my opinion it shows beneath all this “enlightened” “democratic” “humanist” “judeo-christian” “loving” mask lurks the well known western supremacist.”
I am a western supremacist. I believe that western culture with all its problems is vastly superior to the 7th century Arabian culture of Islam. So thanks for stating the obvious.
Burhanduddin1 wrote…
“Do you really believe this phenomenon “ISIS” can only be reduced to “it’s EVIL Islam as always, Islam is always EVIL”? Do you really believe one should view the world today in these categories? Oh dear. Thats’s not enlightened. That’s just plain stupid.”
My Response:
No what is stupid is to think that ISIS is not Islamic or has anything to do with Islam. Now thats just stupid. So you think Islam is a phenomenon? Well if it is its a 1400 year old one. And yes Isis is Islam. Name me one Caliphate dynasty that was not established the way ISIS is establishing its dynasty? The first caliphate had a genocide, the last Caliphate in the 20th century ended with a genocide and the new Caliphate in the new century is starting off with a genocide. See the pattern?
Abu Bakr went to war with Muslims who disagreed with him on Zakat, and would not give their Biya to him. Caliph Abu Bakr Bagdadi is going to war with Muslims who disagree with him on Islamic issues and will not give their Biya to him. See the pattern?
Then there is the RIdda wars, and the various Caliphate claimants and even competing Caliphates fighting each other for the love of allah. Islamic history can best be summed up as just perpetual war not so much with the kuffar which they loved to go to war with but more so with their own people who called themselves Muslim. All for allah love. Or can we even call that love. more like allahs mastery.
And here is another shocking truth Muslims on this blog even Paul Williams himself support and promote ISIS ideology. For even Paul Williams believed at one time that it was halah for allah for the Caliph to kill homosexuals. (not sure if he has changed his opinion on that)
Muslims believe that Apostates should be killed. Well thats an ISIS ideology
A lot of Muslims believe that woman should be covered head to toe including the face. Hey guess what another ISIS ideology.
Muslims believe in paying the Zakat, shocking i know but thats another ISIS ideology.
Muslims believe that it is Halah for a man to have 4 wives… Whats that you say another ISIS ideology.
Muslims believe that it is halah from allah that a Muslim male can have sex with his female slaves. Oh yah thats definitely another ISIS ideology.
I could go on and on but thats enough for now. The only thing you westernized Muslims who hate the west don’t like about ISIS is that there actually doing what you all dream and fantasize about.
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I don’t ‘hate the West’ – I’m an Englishman born and bred thank you very much. But I don’t worship at the altar of my country right or wrong. We English have done some terrible things in our history but that does not equate to liking Islamic State. They are brutal and murderous. There is no mercy in their actions, and mercy is key in Islam.
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Paul I do apologize, I did not mean to include you in the Westernized west hating Muslim camp. I should have added that disclaimer. However the point remains, the same ideology you promote, ISIS promotes.
You say ISIS is “brutal and murderous” like other westernized Muslims, yet at the same time these westernized west hating Muslims attack and lambast western nations for any attempt to stop these “brutal and Murderous” Muslims.
Some westernized and west hating Muslims have even gone so far as to blame western nations not only for the creation of ISIS but also for driving “sweet… Innocent” Muslims to be come Jihadi John head choppers.
Now it is true that the folly of the US/English invasion of Iraq created a huge power vacuum in the region. However any political system could have stepped up to fill that void. Communism, Fascism, Capitalism, Socialism etc… but only one has stepped up with great success and that is the Islam of ISIS.
You say that they have “no mercy in their actions” but they do. If you repent and give your Biya to the Caliphate they grant you mercy. If you do not do what is bad (things even you consider are bad) then you’re left alone. There is no corruption in ISIS controlled territories, As a matter of fact before the limited allied bombing the standard of living for most citizens of the Islamic state increased, and the people where generally better off. Even with allied bombing businessmen love to do business in the Islamic State because they know they will not be ripped off and not be forced to pay a bribe to every policeman on the beat. People know when they buy a kilo of beef they are getting a kilo of beef, when they buy a kilo of lamb its a kilo of lamb, a litter of gas is an actual litter and it actually contains gasoline.
There is very little alcohol, no pork, there is no eating during Ramadan, no smoking (which as an ex smoker even I say is a good thing), very little drugs, very little pornography, woman are dressed Isalmically, woman do not go out with out a guardian,. People pray 5 times a day, there is very little theft, adultery, murder, etc…. and no open homosexuality no gay pride parades in the Islamic state. Yup its an Islamic paradise. And Apostates are killed.
You said “mercy is key in Islam” The fact is all these things are a mercy to Muslims. But you want more then Islamic mercy you want western mercy. You want the drunk to be let go with out being lashed, you want the adulterer to not be stoned to death or get a bullet in her head, you want the thief not to get his hand chopped off, or the homosexual not to be thrown off a building, or the apostate not to be killed. Thats not Islamic mercy that is corruption of the Islamic justice system.
Speaking of mercy I have heard from many Muslims that the reason the punishments are so harsh in Islam is because it is a mercy. For instance adultery is a really big sin, if the woman is stoned to death and suffers for her sin on earth then she has a better chance of allah forgiving her of this big sin because she suffered her on earth. The same for homosexuals, thats why the ISIS executioner gives hugs to those Homosexuals he is about to throw off the building. There death is a mercy to them. So even in the harsh Islamic justice there is Islamic mercy.
So the bottom line is this, you want your Islamic paradise, ISIS is giving it to you.
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we are not going to agree about this. You want Muslims to be as bad as they can possibly be because it fits your binary, them and us, world view. I know for your comments under all sorts of different names that you are not a reasonable guy but a hater who just wants to demonise Muslims. So no I won’t be playing your game. There is no point. And you just get off on the fitna you cause.
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Paul wrote… “You want Muslims to be as bad as they can possibly be”
No I want Muslims to be the best Muslims they can be and have the purest Islam they can have. I want Muslims to enjoy full Islam. Not half Islam amd Half western-ism, not a quarter Islam mixed in with secularism. But full blown 7th century Arabian Islam. Kind of funny how I want more Islam for the Muslims then Muslims want for themselves.
You wrote… “because it fits your binary, them and us, world view. ”
My Response: See there you go again exposing your western secularism. The Quran is very binary. There are the best of creatures MUSLIMS and the worst of creatures Kuffar. There is no in between no middle ground, you either are a Muslim, or a second class kuffar citizen, or you are a non citizen pagan\atheist in which case you are a convert to Islam or are dead. There is only Dar-Al-Haram and Dar-al-Islam.
You wrote…
“you are not a reasonable guy”
My response: What is your definition of reasonable? Anyone who agrees with you or gives you false platitudes? Actually I am a very reasonable man as I use reason and logic that is in the very nature of God to determine my world view. Since your god does not have a nature to speak of, and since the laws of logic do not apply to your god, I can see how you would think reason and logic are the opposite being un reasonable.
You wrote…
“but a hater who just wants to demonise Muslims.”
My Response: Yes I have a fierce anger and hatred for those who love death more than people who love life, for as God says “they that love death hate me”. I also hate inconsistency, people who out of willful ignorance, distort and attack the living God. I hate injustice and I have and do treat those with “extreme prejudice” who wish to attack, kill, maim or other wise injure myself, my family and my fellow countrymen. Regardless if those that wish to do this have a real or perceived grievances with myself, my family and my fellow countrymen.
You wrote…who just wants to demonise [sic] Muslims.”
My response: I neither do nor have to demonize Muslims, if they are true to Islam they do a good job of it all by there selves.
You wrote…
“So no I won’t be playing your game. ”
My response: This is not a game. People are fighting and dying right now for what they sincerely believe. To deny that what they are fighting for is not real and true is not only an insult to those sincerely fighting and dying for what they believe but it is also a greater insult to those they are killing.
Your not gong to be able to sit on the fence forever, your not going to be able to play Muslim when it safe, and westernized intellectual when it suits you for to much longer. The fight is coming fast and furious, your gonna have to choose a side.
You wrote…
“There is no point.”
My response:
I agree there is no point. There is nothing you or any Muslim can say that will convince me that Islam is from the Living God. The Father has put me in Christs hands and he will never let me go and he will never drive me way. I am one of his sheep, I hear and know his voice, I do not hear the voice of the murderer, I flee that voice.
You wrote.. “And you just get off on the fitna you cause.”
Funny I’m the one who is trying to unite Muslims and you accuse me of causing fitna when it is you and other westernize Muslims who deny that ISIS is Islamic there by you are in fitna with ISIS.
The problem with westernized Muslims who are allegedly against ISIS is that they wont fight ISIS, and thats why ISIS will always win against them. Becasue ISIS Muslims are the ones who are willing to do what it takes to establish their religion.
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lol pure troll.
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General Troll
You said;
I am a western supremacist. I believe that western culture with all its problems is vastly superior to the 7th century Arabian culture of Islam. So thanks for stating the obvious.
I say;
My friend. Western culture is vastly superior than just 19th century Christian culture who murdered the followers of all religions in the west and force convert the from Islam to Christianity, the slaves the stole from Africa. No religion is allowed in the West just as recently as the 19th century and even the Roman Catholics Christians were persecuted, killed and have their churches burned by other Christians known as the protestants. The Roman Catholics also persecuted the protestants. Mormons were persecuted as recently as the 20th Century and some of them fled to Mexico.
Who caused the freedom of religions in the west?
It is not Christianity, as the Christians and Christianity is the worst intolerant religion in the world from its beginnings because they taught Jesus is the only way. Among themselves they see other Christians who do not share their views as heretics, heresy, not Christians etc. and therefore will violently kill them.
It is only a fool who will think the freedom of religion in the west is caused by Christianity and Christians.
Why?
It is the atheist and liberals and secularists in the west who fought these murderous Christians and got the upper hand to bring secular laws and constitutions to stop these Christians from murdering others and themselves.
The US was divided between the conservative south and the liberal north who went to war and the liberals won and liberated the US from the conservative Christians who are fundamentalists, extremists and terrorists in the form of KKK who use Christianity to hang blacks by burning a cross of Jesus Christ. The liberals have stopped all this Christian terrorist nonsense.
This Christian terrorism started Paul the apostle called some people who do not share his idea as Christ died for their sins and is Christ is God are in vain. Since then other Christians who are not strong and are weak will be persecuted by the dominant sect i.e. Arians of Arius persecuted by Emperor Constantine, Calvin Murdering Michael, Martin Luther murdering others etc.
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The crusaders conquered the Holy Land, and Spain and slaughtered all the Jews and Muslims until not Jew and Muslims remain in those lands. The Muslims were able to capture the Holy Land back and brought about freedom of religion, that is why you see Muslims, Jews, Christians, Atheists, Buddhists etc. in Muslim majority lands from centuries upon centuries till today. Iraq Christians were the early Christians and were under Muslims till today.
Spain, my friend until recently for the sake of freedom of religion by the liberal Europe, no single Muslim or a Jew remained their. The government of Spain was ashamed of that and decided last year or two to compensate the Jews because of the barbaric slaughter the they and the Muslims got from Christians.
No liberals, atheists, secularists, or any one for that matter who fought and taught Muslims freedom of religion and how to live with others who do not share their religion. It is clearly all over in the Quran and Hadiths. If that will not tell you it is against what isis are doing, then I suggest you read Islam with an open mind and you are not knowledgeable in Islam than those who governed the states were all religions was practiced under Islam in the past.
Proof1.
(This Jew is a Zionist Jew but acknowledge the truth)
Proof2
(This Jew is not Zionist)
Both Zionist and non Zionist Jews believed Islam tolerated them and Christianity persecuted them. It is a fact.
To be continued…………………
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General Troll
You said;
I am a western supremacist. I believe that western culture with all its problems is vastly superior to the 7th century Arabian culture of Islam. So thanks for stating the obvious.
I say;
Western culture? Do you like the armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc.
All these is almost eliminated when God law is established, whether Jewish law or Islamic Sharia. The divine law are there to help us to fight the above vices but not to harm anyone. The Jews well testify to this freedom in their interview.
You said;
Burhanduddin1 wrote…
“Do you really believe this phenomenon “ISIS” can only be reduced to “it’s EVIL Islam as always, Islam is always EVIL”? Do you really believe one should view the world today in these categories? Oh dear. Thats’s not enlightened. That’s just plain stupid.”
My Response:
No what is stupid is to think that ISIS is not Islamic or has anything to do with Islam. Now thats just stupid. So you think Islam is a phenomenon? Well if it is its a 1400 year old one. And yes Isis is Islam. Name me one Caliphate dynasty that was not established the way ISIS is establishing its dynasty? The first caliphate had a genocide, the last Caliphate in the 20th century ended with a genocide and the new Caliphate in the new century is starting off with a genocide. See the pattern?
I say;
Do not be shallow minded chap with regards to this. I will turn the same question to you and ask you to name me one Crusader dynasty like Richard the Lion Heart, Emperor Constantine, Martin Luther, Calvin etc. that was not established the way isis is establishing.
Under the Romans, the Christians have no power, ammunitions, control etc. to carry their atrocities. When the got power and any time they get power, everybody knows their atrocities is similar to isis, until they were stopped by atheists and liberals.
No body fought Muslims to force them for freedom of religion because it is in their religion and they practice it to live peaceful with non Muslims if the Islamic State like Spain and the Holy Land and other Muslim majority countries.
ISIS
Iraq was under Muslim rule for centuries. Why was no isis? Under Islamic rule? Because their behaviours is non Islamic and no Islamic ruler or population will tolerate that.
What brought isis? Christian evangelicals in the conservative south of the US who force the senators and congressmen to support Bush to go to war in the Muslim lands so that they can embed themselves(Christians) in the US army to preach Christianity by force because they fundamentalist belief is that, no one is saved until he believes Jesus died for his sins and they think they are doing the world good.
So, the war caused a vacuum, failed state, and uncontrolled state. Any uncontrolled state will trigger a violent group coming from any thing. Let say, the US becomes a failed state with no control and power, you will see how the fundamentalist Christians will start killing people again as they had done in the past. Just like isis.
Do not waste your time to quote Quran about war, and I will quote a worse than that in the Bible and correct your misleading about the Quran.
You said;
And here is another shocking truth Muslims on this blog even Paul Williams himself support and promote ISIS ideology. For even Paul Williams believed at one time that it was halah for allah for the Caliph to kill homosexuals. (not sure if he has changed his opinion on that)
I say;
Where in the Quran does it say “kill homosexual”? You cannot find it so keep your mouth shut and do not lie against Islam.
Both Quran and Bible just like fornication, adultery, etc. has forbidden homosexuality.
Performing adultery, homosexual act, fornication etc. in public is punishable by every society be it Jew, Islam, West, East, South, North, Greenland etc. So what is your problem?
A homosexual just like and adulterer, can perform his act in his room under Islamic, Western, Jewish etc. culture but if he is caught performing the act in all these society will be punished and God law is mostly severe whether in the Bible or Quran to serve as deterrent in Quran with a number of witness and has to be decided by jurists, but in the Bible, the punishment is done without any witness or jury.
Allah
Muslims, Arab Jews and Arab Christians call their God Allah in Arabic and they all respect the name by Capitalizing the first letter. Do your self a favour and do Capitalize the Allah and respect your fellow Arab Christians not me. They will be angry with you for being ignorant and arrogant in disrespecting their God who is Allah.
Proofs
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General Troll
You said;
My response:
I agree there is no point. There is nothing you or any Muslim can say that will convince me that Islam is from the Living God. The Father has put me in Christs hands and he will never let me go and he will never drive me way. I am one of his sheep, I hear and know his voice, I do not hear the voice of the murderer, I flee that voice.
You wrote.. “And you just get off on the fitna you cause.”
Funny I’m the one who is trying to unite Muslims and you accuse me of causing fitna when it is you and other westernize Muslims who deny that ISIS is Islamic there by you are in fitna with ISIS.
The problem with westernized Muslims who are allegedly against ISIS is that they wont fight ISIS, and thats why ISIS will always win against them. Becasue ISIS Muslims are the ones who are willing to do what it takes to establish their religion.
I say;
No body said he can convince you to become a Muslim. Not at all. Our Muslim faith has in its Quran, that there are certain people like you, no matter how they hear the truth, they will reject it and at the end of the day, Islam advised us after dialog if they do not accept the truth, we should tell them “You unto your religion” and “me unto my religion” and “there is no compulsion in religion” because compulsion in religion is no religion, that is why you can still find non Muslims natives, an indigenes who lived with Muslims for centuries in Iran, Morocco, Yemen(Yemenite Jews for example), Palestine(Holy Land), Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia, Algeria, Pakistan, Iraq(Iraqi Jews and Iraqi Christians) etc. till today the non Muslims are still there.
Spain was not be able to be freed by the Muslims and look at what
This guy was a Crusader and will not allow a single non Christian to live in his land.
You said;
The problem with westernized Muslims who are allegedly against ISIS is that they wont fight ISIS, and thats why ISIS will always win against them. Becasue ISIS Muslims are the ones who are willing to do what it takes to establish their religion.
I say;
I am sorry Sir, westernized Muslims cannot fight ISIS because they do not have Helicopter gunships, Caterpillar, bulldozers, that the evangelical Christians are contributing to Israel to demolish Palestinian( Christians, Muslims, Jewish, atheists) homes.
Iraq was there under Muslims rule for centuries and nothing like isis was tolerated but when the evangelical Christians caused war there to spread Christianity by force they left a vacuum, and that is why isis emerged and we pray the region comes under Muslim(not isis) rule as it were before isis, so that every body will live in peace and harmony as it was before.
The Father who is God himself has put you in Christs hands who is also God himself? Good for you for having 2 Gods, so that when one God dies, there is another God to take care of you.
We Muslims have Only, One and Alone God of Abraham as said in the Bible, who has no partners and who is immortal according to the Bible and does not die at all not under any circumstances and is eternal, everlasting, supreme, majestic, infinite etc. who is not his creations.
Mr. General troll, you are no different from isis by ridiculing other peoples God including your Christian fellows by disrespecting their God in deliberating spelling His name wrongly to ridicule them and cause anger and enmity towards them. The only difference between you and the isis is that you are tamed by the law and constitution in the west. If there should be any power vacuum in the west, your behaviour shows you and your fellow Christian extremists will take on arms and start killing the Muslims and after you finish them all, you will turn against other Christians who do not share your views and kill them all just like how isis are doing.
Your behaviour shows, your anger against poor Muslims who are just practicing their religion for you to couple them with some angry Muslims just like your are an angry Christian towards Islam. I have so many Christian friends and they do not have the anger you have and they are not ignorant with the politics behind isis.
This wonderful Christian lady sums it all( She is more learned than you Mr. General troll)
Mr. General Troll learn and stop the hatred. What you are doing is not the work of peace according to this wonderful Christian lady. Very beautiful lady like her heart. Your heart is not clean like this Christian woman Minister.
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Nice one Intellect.
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Intellect wrote…
“Western culture? Do you like the armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc.”
My response: Wow that was easy. It din’t take long for a Muslim to openly promote ISIS propaganda.
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General Troll
Just like a General Troll who is a fundamentalist, extremist, hater of humanity promoting the hatred of Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Pat Robertson etc. Listen to the Kind and warm hatred Christian woman in the video and I will embed it again so that you will grow up and love the Muslims who will not hurt you in any way. Many Christians have Muslim spouse, brothers, sisters, Sons and Daughters, friends and they do not hate them like you and Pamela Geller hate all Muslims.
once again watch this video and learn and grow up
Sorry Paul Williams for reposting the video, I just want this ignorant to learn from this beautiful Christian woman who has more knowledge than him, so that at least he will stop hating all Muslims
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Intellect pay attention. I wrote that western culture with ALL ITS PROBLEMS is far superior to 7th century Arab culture. I then went to great lengths to demonstrate that those problems which you listed are not found or are very limited in the IS, which is living la veta loco 7th century Arab culture.
So you are promoting ISIS ideology but you live (I believe) in the west which you despise. So the question is why? Why haven’t you given your Biya to the Caliph? Why haven’t you made your Hijra to the IS?
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General Troll
You said;
Intellect pay attention. I wrote that western culture with ALL ITS PROBLEMS is far superior to 7th century Arab culture. I then went to great lengths to demonstrate that those problems which you listed are not found or are very limited in the IS, which is living la veta loco 7th century Arab culture.
So you are promoting ISIS ideology but you live (I believe) in the west which you despise. So the question is why? Why haven’t you given your Biya to the Caliph? Why haven’t you made your Hijra to the IS?
I say;
No it is not 7th century Arab culture but the law of God and the law of Moses to the Jews updated. Before Islam, there was no Sharia law in Arabia, and their culture was just like the modern western societies, where there was robbery, adultery, fornication, etc. burying children alive i.e. one of the Caliph before becoming a Muslim buried his daughter alive and when he accepted Islam, he realizes it was a great sin and it haunted him till his death.
isis just like any religious fanatics will use anything Islam to justify their hatred to other people just like you and Pamela Geller hates all Muslims so much so that, you do not want to learn and be objective.
West
Who told you the west is for Christians but not Muslims? As a Christian, you must also abandon the West because the Western atheist and liberals fought the Christians and force them to stop persecuting other minorities and among themselves(Christians(Catholic and Protestants)). I can see the western laws has affected you as a fundamentalist Christian because the way you write on this blog makes me think that, had it not been the western laws and constitution that is preventing you, you would have chopped my head as Calvin did to Michael.
You can also leave the West as the West is not for both fundamental Christians and Muslims. But the fundamentalist Christians control the Senate and Congresses, so you still have power but you were forced not to kill.
You said;
So you are promoting ISIS ideology but you live (I believe) in the west which you despise.
I say;
I am in the corner of South, North East.
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General Troll
You said;
Intellect pay attention. I wrote that western culture with ALL ITS PROBLEMS is far superior to 7th century Arab culture. I then went to great lengths to demonstrate that those problems which you listed are not found or are very limited in the IS, which is living la veta loco 7th century Arab culture.
So you are promoting ISIS ideology but you live (I believe) in the west which you despise. So the question is why? Why haven’t you given your Biya to the Caliph? Why haven’t you made your Hijra to the IS?
I say;
No it is not 7th century Arab culture but the law of God and the law of Moses to the Jews updated. Before Islam, there was no Sharia law in Arabia, and their culture was just like the modern western societies, where there was robbery, adultery, fornication, etc. burying children alive i.e. one of the Caliph before becoming a Muslim buried his daughter alive and when he accepted Islam, he realizes it was a great sin and it haunted him till his death.
isis just like any religious fanatics will use anything Islam to justify their hatred to other people just like you and Pamela Geller hates all Muslims so much so that, you do not want to learn and be objective.
West
Who told you the west is for Christians but not Muslims? As a Christian, you must also abandon the West because the Western atheist and liberals fought the Christians and force them to stop persecuting other minorities and among themselves(Christians(Catholic and Protestants)). I can see the western laws has affected you as a fundamentalist Christian because the way you write on this blog makes me think that, had it not been the western laws and constitution that is preventing you, you would have chopped my head as Calvin did to Michael.
You can also leave the West as the West is not for both fundamental Christians and Muslims. But the fundamentalist Christians control the Senate and Congresses, so you still have power but you were forced not to kill.
You said;
So you are promoting ISIS ideology but you live (I believe) in the west which you despise.
I say;
I live in the corner of South, North East.
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Intellect wrote…
No it is not 7th century Arab culture but the law of God and the law of Moses to the Jews updated. Before Islam, there was no Sharia law in Arabia, and their culture was just like the modern western societies, where there was robbery, adultery, fornication, etc. burying children alive i.e. one of the Caliph before becoming a Muslim buried his daughter alive and when he accepted Islam, he realizes it was a great sin and it haunted him till his death.
I respond: Ok then so go and practice what you think are the laws of Mosses and Isa in the IS. Bye
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Troll – tell us about your faith for a change. Are you Baptist or Pentecostalist or some other denomination?
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isis are not practicing that laws. You can also join the neo Nazis.
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General Troll. To reduce 21st century socio political phenomena to be merely dependent on and equivalent to events 1400 years ago is not stupid. Let me take that back. It is insane.
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General Troll: “I am a western supremacist.” Well, I got news for you. The subordinates don’t care any more. They just don’t play that game any more. “Western supremacy” is a bubble that burst a long time ago.
Just like this mumbo jumbo bubble “The Father has put me in Christs hands and he will never let me go and he will never drive me way.”
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Intellect wrote…
isis are not practicing that laws.
My response: So you claim that ISIs is not practicing the laws of your god allah? Lets take a look at this.
Is ISIS committing shirk, or do they say lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muḥammadur rasūlu-llāh?
Does ISIS promote the 5 daily prayers to Allah?
Does ISIS promote the Ramadan Fast?
Does ISIS promote the virtue of Woman by keeping them covered?
Does ISIS forbid the use of Alcohol and drugs?
Is Pork Haram in the IS?
Does ISIS forbid fornication and adultery?
Does ISIS prevent thievery?
Does ISIS promote the good and forbid the bad?
What exactly of these things are not ISLAMIC or part of the Sharia law?
I should also point out that you railed against the west writing ““Western culture? Do you like the armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc.”
So let me ask you are any of these things present in the IS like they are in the west? Or forbid these things and enforce the law preventing this wide spread corruption. If they do and they are not practicing Islam then what do we need Islam for if something other then Islam can solve these problems?
Or are you saying that Islam is more harsh and worse then ISIS?
Intellect wrote…
You can also join the neo Nazis.
I respond: No I do not believe what the neo Nazis believe like you believe the same things that ISIS believes.
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Burhanduddin1 wrote…
“General Troll. To reduce 21st century socio political phenomena to be merely dependent on and equivalent to events 1400 years ago is not stupid. Let me take that back. It is insane.”
My Response: NO sir to ignore the deep seeded 1400 year old hatred that Muslims have held not only for the Kuffar, but for their very own, and then say this hatred has no relevance or influence on events in the region in the present. Is not only insane but foolish as well. It’s a George Bush kind of stupid.
Burhanduddin1 wrote…
“General Troll: “I am a western supremacist.” Well, I got news for you. The subordinates don’t care any more. They just don’t play that game anymore. “Western supremacy” is a bubble that burst a long time ago.
Just like this mumbo jumbo bubble “The Father has put me in Christs hands and he will never let me go and he will never drive me way.”
My response: Yah we see that the barbarians are not only at the gates but are inside the gates as well. Fort hood shooter, Memphis Shooter, Boston Bomber, 7-7 Bomber, Lee Rigbee murderer’s, to many to mention. But you get my point.
I’m not sure where you live, but if you live in the west and do not think that western culture is superior then why do you live in the west?
Why would you leave your perfect Islamic culture which you find superior to western culture and live in the land of dar-al-haram?
Dude feel free to leave the west at any time, and take as many Muslims as you can with you. Don’t worry we won’t miss you.
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Paul wrote…
Troll – tell us about your faith for a change. Are you Baptist or Pentecostalist or some other denomination?
My response: Thats General Troll to you sir :). I thought you knew who I was, I have answered this quite a few times. But I will answer it again. This time right it down on a post it note and stick it on the side of your monitor. I’m a reformed Christian, Baptist but seriously looking into Presbyterian.
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General Troll
You said;
Intellect wrote…
isis are not practicing that laws.
My response: So you claim that ISIs is not practicing the laws of your god allah? Lets take a look at this
I say;
Despite my plea to you to at least show some respect to your fellow Arab Christians who Capitalize the word Allah as their God, you refused and keep being arrogant and hater to anything Islam and keep spewing hatred towards Islam by not capitalizing Allah. This shows that you are not any better than isis. Your behaviour shows that with any small vacuum in the west, I swear, you and your extremist Christians will start killing all Muslims and after that, you will kill your fellow Christians who do not agree with you.
You are a bad hater. I reposted a beautiful Christian lady who is much learned telling you to stop the hatred but you refused.
Good for you. God talk to Catholics who persecuted the protestants and chopped their heads and the protestants to retaliated until the atheists stopped them and leave Muslims alone.
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Intellect said:
” one of the Caliph before becoming a Muslim buried his daughter alive and when he accepted Islam, he realizes it was a great sin and it haunted him till his death.”
But under Sharia he could have buried his daughter alive after he became a Muslim if she had committed the crime of acting against Islam or Mohammed and he would not be subject to retaliation. This actually happened to a girl in Turkey a few years ago. Honor crimes are commonplace in Muslim cultures.
Western secular law based on the Judaeo Christian ethic is superior to this. While it is lax on some things it is perhaps better to err on this side rather than start to introduce religious crimes as sharia does. Of course Muslims want to see unbelievers punished severely. There is ia certain pleasure to be gained from it. It is a confirmation that Allah is around and he has not gone to sleep as it were.
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Intellect so thats it, no response to my challenge to you on what exactly is not Islamic about ISIS? I guess you realized that ISIS is just as Islamic as you are and I would say even more Islamic since they are doing what you only fantasies about. All you can do is complain about my non use of capitalization of the word allah. You do realize that even though Arab Christians today call God Allah they are not referring to the monad non personal god of the Muslims. Instead they are referring to the true logical triune God of Scripture. Whats funny is that according to Indonesia or Malaysia only Muslims can call god Allah.
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Intellect you wrote…
and leave Muslims alone.
My response: I absolutely do want to leave Muslims alone. I want all Muslims to repatriate to the Islamic state or to an Islamic country of their choice in exchange for the Christians being persecuted and held captive in the Islamic State and other Muslim countries. I also do not want any western foreign intervention into Muslim countries. I just want to leave you all alone. So maybe both are dreams can come true. You and all other Muslims will get to live in your Islamic paradise and well the rest of the world can go on living.
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General Troll I got news for you buddy: Your western culture is not yours. You can claim it, you can bang your head screaming against the wall if you like, go ahead. It’s as much my culture as its is yours. Human Rights are general, universal rights. They are not “western” rights. They are as much islamic property as as they are yours. Tough.
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General Troll
You said;
Intellect you wrote…
and leave Muslims alone.
My response: I absolutely do want to leave Muslims alone. I want all Muslims to repatriate to the Islamic state or to an Islamic country of their choice in exchange for the Christians being persecuted and held captive in the Islamic State and other Muslim countries. I also do not want any western foreign intervention into Muslim countries. I just want to leave you all alone. So maybe both are dreams can come true. You and all other Muslims will get to live in your Islamic paradise and well the rest of the world can go on living.
I say;
For your ignorance. There is no Islamic state or Christian state now. We have Muslim majority countries and Christian majority countries and that does not mean these countries are either “Islamic countries” or “Muslim countries” because there are other religious people there in these countries.
In the past we had both “Islamic” and “Christian” countries like the old Spain. When Spain and part of Portugal were under Muslim rule, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and other religions were allowed to practiced their religion freely until today in Egypt, Iran, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Yemen, Bahrain etc. and all the Muslim majority countries allow all religion to worship freely.
But when the Christians conquered Spain, the kill, force convert and chase Muslims and Jews out of Spain and Portugal until there is no single Muslim or Jew there. That is the barbaric nature of some Christians. Now the atheist of Europe fought the Christians and brought freedom of religion there and Spain and Portugal has to allow freedom of religion by force from the atheist who fought them.
So, General Troll, the freedom in the West is not by Christians but by atheist and some liberal Christians like the woman I keep reposting to you. The West is not for Christians alone but other religions as well. It will be stupid on your part to ask Paul Williams, Timothy Humble, Timothy Winter, Susan Baker, Yvone Ridley etc. to leave their native lands and migrate to nowhere. This is the mentality of your barbaric Christian ancestors who killed, force convert and chased native people from their lands in the Holy Land, Spain and all Europe and America and kill the native Indians and force convert and kill the slave they brought from Africa and form kkk and burn a cross of Jesus Christ and hang blacks in the name of Christianity.
You white supremacist kkk, and neo Nazi.
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Burhanuddin1 wrote…
They are not “western” rights. They are as much islamic property as as they are yours. Tough.
My response: Wow talk about a “TELL” yes allah has given Muslims all the rights to own NON MUSLIMS as their property. As a matter of fact allah has given Muslim men the right to have sex with the non Muslim female property they OWN.
Burhanuddin1 wrote…
It’s as much my culture as its is yours. Human Rights are general, universal rights.
My Response: Another interesting Tell, since Intellect wrote on western culture “Western culture? Do you like the armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc.”
My continued response: Ok then thats as much YOUR culture I would say even more son considering the Muslim rape gangs in England, the amount of documented high crime in countries that take in a large number of Muslims fleeing their Islamic paradises.
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You said;
Burhanuddin1 wrote…
It’s as much my culture as its is yours. Human Rights are general, universal rights.
My Response: Another interesting Tell, since Intellect wrote on western culture “Western culture? Do you like the armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc.”
My continued response: Ok then thats as much YOUR culture I would say even more son considering the Muslim rape gangs in England, the amount of documented high crime in countries that take in a large number of Muslims fleeing their Islamic paradises.
I say;
The might have learnt all these social vices from the west which is full of social vices. Compare the crimes in Muslim majority countries, like Indonesia, Dubai, Malaysia, Bahrain, Egypt, Algeria, Qatar to a Christian majority country like England and the USA and you will realize the vast difference with the Christian majority countries having more social vices than the Muslim Majority countries.
No Muslim is fleeing from Islamic paradise, but fleeing from war caused by evangelical Christians by voting for war in Muslims countries to use it to spread Christianity by force and so Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan has so many refugees coming to the west and not all of them are Muslims, you ignorant. Interview these refugees and ask them and you will be surprised to hear from them that some of them are indeed Christians, Hindus, and even atheist. In fact you are stupid to believe all these refugees are Muslims. No, not all of them are Muslims. You will be surprised to hear a name like Aziz or Abdul but that person from Iraq or Syria is in fact a Christian.
Tariq Aziz, Saddam Hussein’s vice president in Iraq was a practicing Christian and in Egypt and all the Muslim majority countries Christians have high offices. The secretary of the former Muslim brother hood president of Egypt was a lady Christian. Egypt Muslim president under Mubarak supported an Egyptian Christian to be the head of UN.
You see the freedom of religion in Muslim majority countries? Tell me, which Christian Majority country will allow a Muslim as a vice president? or a woman president? Hillary Clinton is competing. May be she will be the first woman president in the west. Pakistan had their first woman president long time ago and Indonesia had a woman president long time ago.
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General Troll If you could take a break from wiping the foam from your mouth, it seems to me that
“The Father” has taken you out of Christs hands and he let you go and he drove you away.” Remember this “loving your enemies” stuff, ever heard before?
And yes, general universal human rights are as Muslim’s rights as they are yours. Nanananana!
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Burhaundi general universal human rights? Fo u mean the declaration of human rights that NO Muslim nation signed? Those human rights?
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Burhsunfi stop borrowing from 21st century western kuffar world view and stick to ur 7th century Islamic world view. You got ur side I got my side in the sand box.
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Stop claiming things that are not yours naughty boy.
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Burhanuddin1 I can honestly say that Islamic Human rights are not mine, I don’t want any Dihiming rights granted by allah and his messenger. I don’t even want any of the rights that allah and his messenger have given to Muslims.
1. Don’t want the right to have more then one wife.
2. Don’t want the right to have sex with a slave woman
3. Definitely don’t want the right to marry and have sex with a 9 year old
4. Don’t want the right to stone woman to death for adultery
5. Don’t want the right to have the hand cut off of a theif if he steals from me
6. Don’t want the right to have people killed for changing their religion
7.Don’t want the right to have homosexuals thrown off a tall building or otherwise killed.
8. Don’t want the right to have witches killed
9. Don’t want the right to have blasphemours killed.
10. I don’t even want the right to breast feed from strange woman so they can be my co worker.
But for some bizarre reason you want the rights that the kuffar have given you. Kind of funny.
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Intellect yes its true its all the kuffar’s fault. The West is so bad, all that crime, roberies, murders, rapes etc… being committed in the west, and none of those things happening in Muslim dominated countries. I can see why you would want to leave the west. Well don’t let me stop you please by all means make your hidra to the IS or to any Muslim country for that matter. And by all means please take as many Muslims with you as you can, save the Muslims from the west and their Kuffar ways. Warn all the Muslims you meant to not travel here, keep them safe from the corruption of the west.
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Burhanuddin1 I forgot to add, I also don’t want the rights of Muslims in allahs paradise. An eternal erection with see through white chicks, I mean really who thinks up this stuff. (Shakes head.)
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General Troll
You said;
Intellect yes its true its all the kuffar’s fault. The West is so bad, all that crime, roberies, murders, rapes etc… being committed in the west, and none of those things happening in Muslim dominated countries. I can see why you would want to leave the west. Well don’t let me stop you please by all means make your hidra to the IS or to any Muslim country for that matter. And by all means please take as many Muslims with you as you can, save the Muslims from the west and their Kuffar ways. Warn all the Muslims you meant to not travel here, keep them safe from the corruption of the west.
I say;
The west is not yours alone. It is for Muslims, atheists, Roman Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Jehovah witness etc. just to name a few. So you have no right to ask anyone to leave. It is like me telling you because you hate Muslims so much and do not like them in this world, so kill your self to save your self from the anger you have towards Muslims. You do not have any right to decide some body’s travelling or migration plans.
The west is for Muslims too and some Muslims do not know any country apart from the west where they were born, so it will be wicked and barbaric for you to follow your Christian ancestors who killed Muslims and Jews and chased all of them out of Spain. It is an embarrassment to the Spanish government that it decided to respect Muslims and even compensate some Jews for that barbaric act by Christians.
Proof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree
Your mentality is the same like your barbaric Christian ancestors who got rid of all religion from Spain except Christianity.
Wicked man who have no sympathy for mankind. Christians Jews are still living in the Muslim majority countries from centuries to centuries till today. God to Iran and Morocco an you will see a lot of Jews and Christians there. Go to Malaysia, Dubai, Pakistan, Algeria, Egypt etc. and you will see native Christians who believed Jesus died for their sins and call God Allah but you General Troll will disrespect them because of your hatred towards Islam just like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. Jay Smith is even better than you. Sam Shamoun is better than you. You Muslim hater.
Sam Shamoun and Jay Smith will not go as far to expel all Muslim from their countries(west-some Muslims countries as well)
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“But for some bizarre reason you want the rights that the kuffar have given you. Kind of funny.”
General universal human rights are not given by the kuffar, you can claim that till the cows come home. They are not “western” or “judeo-christian” or “kuffar” or what ever label you want to stick on them. Stop claiming things that are not yours naughty boy.
You can reject whatever you like. But no one will accept you spreading lies. Stop claiming things that are not yours naughty boy.
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Jay Smith
1. Watch these videos and see how Jay Smith does not have a clue to what(Christianity) he is preaching.
2. Jay has a corrupted Bible in his hands but preaching against Islam in it’s(Islamic) literature which he does not know. His is to preach against Islam just like that
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Sorry last post was intended for another thread. Sorry.
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Intellect wrote…
“The west is not yours alone. It is for Muslims, atheists, Roman Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Jehovah witness etc. just to name a few. So you have no right to ask anyone to leave. It is like me telling you because you hate Muslims so much and do not like them in this world, so kill your self to save your self from the anger you have towards Muslims. You do not have any right to decide some body’s travelling or migration plans.”
My Response: Oh the hypocrisy of Westernized west hating Muslims. Why would you want to live in the west with all the “armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc.” when Islamic paradises do not have such things?
I was just being polite in asking you to leave of your own will. Maybe someday, if Muslims don’t start doing something NOW, like take some collective responsibility for the action of their own people, instead of blaming the west and kuffar for everything. Maybe someday the west won’t be so polite in asking Muslims to repatriate to the Islamic paradises that they ran away from. Just a thought.
Well you can go back to doing what westernized west hating Muslims do and that is blame the west and the kuffar for everything that Muslims do.
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General Troll
You said;
Well you can go back to doing what westernized west hating Muslims do and that is blame the west and the kuffar for everything that Muslims do.
I say;
What is West? westernized west? You keep talking about West, West, West but not talking about East, South and North. I live in South, North East corner of the world, so top bothering me about the west please. We are talking about religious tolerance and it is a fact that if you visit the Muslim majority countries you will see Jews, Christians and other religious natives who lived there for centuries upon centuries unlike the Christian Majority countries who had exterminated all religions there and started exterminating each other i.e. Catholics and protestants counter persecutions until the atheist and some liberal Christians stopped them.
You are praying to do what your barbaric Christians ancestors did in Spain and I bet you cannot do that barbaric act of your Christian ancestors in Spain now. The world will not allow you to do that. What you can do is to commit suicide if your anger towards Muslims and Islam can not be contained.
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Burhanuddin1 wrote…
“General universal human rights are not given by the kuffar, you can claim that till the cows come home. They are not “western” or “judeo-christian” or “kuffar” or what ever label you want to stick on them. Stop claiming things that are not yours naughty boy.”
My Response: More hypocrisy from a Muslim, and demonstration of Islamic supremacy. You claim that the Universal is human rights is for everyone, but I can not claim it as mine lol. So I guess Human rights are for everyone being the Muslims and not the Kuffar.
The UN deceleration of Universal Human rights was created by the UN, a group of MEN and Woman. Not by allah. As a matter of fact only two Muslim majority nations singed it, Pakistan and secular Turkey. all other Muslim majority Islamic nations rejected it and instead adopted their own declaration of Human rights.
As Wiki puts it “However, in 1948, Saudi Arabia abstained from the ratification vote on the Declaration, claiming that it violated Sharia law.[30] Pakistan—which had signed the declaration—disagreed and critiqued the Saudi position.[31] In 1982, the Iranian representative to the United Nations, Said Rajaie-Khorassani, said that the Declaration was “a secular understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition” which could not be implemented by Muslims without conflict with Sharia.[32] On 30 June 2000, members of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (now the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation) officially resolved to support the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam,[33] an alternative document that says people have “freedom and right to a dignified life in accordance with the Islamic Shari’ah”, without any discrimination on grounds of “race, colour, language, sex, religious belief, political affiliation, social status or other considerations”. Turkey—a secular state with an overwhelmingly Muslim population—signed the Declaration in 1948″
So if you are talking about the UN Deceleration of Human rights then that is not for you as it violates SHARIA LAW. So stop being naughty and claiming what is NOT YOURS. If you are talking about the Cairo Deceleration of Human rights then I DO NOT WANT IT so I DO NOT and NEVER did CLAIM IT TO BE MINE.
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Intellect you don’t live in dar-al-Haram. Oh good… so don’t come to dar-al-haram stay in your dar-al-islam and please tell all your Muslim friends that live in dar-al-haram to leave and migrate to dar-al-islam and tell the ones in dar-al-islam not to come to dar-al-haram, a place with all the “armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc. when” you “do not have such things?” in dar-al-Islam.
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General Troll
You said;
So if you are talking about the UN Deceleration of Human rights then that is not for you as it violates SHARIA LAW. So stop being naughty and claiming what is NOT YOURS. If you are talking about the Cairo Deceleration of Human rights then I DO NOT WANT IT so I DO NOT and NEVER did CLAIM IT TO BE MINE.
I say;
Human rights was there before the UN was created. Human rights started from the creation of Adam and therefore for every human being and not you alone. It is in all scriptures most human laws before the UN was created and that is, do not kill, cheat, etc. and DO NOT DISRESPECT EACH OTHER as you General Troll keeps disrespecting Muslims, Christians and Jews by not capitalizing the name of their God Allah.
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General Troll
You said;
Intellect you don’t live in dar-al-Haram. Oh good… so don’t come to dar-al-haram stay in your dar-al-islam and please tell all your Muslim friends that live in dar-al-haram to leave and migrate to dar-al-islam and tell the ones in dar-al-islam not to come to dar-al-haram, a place with all the “armed robbery? drug? prostitution? adultery? fornication? child abuse? Church Fathers and Pastors child Molestations? Gangs killing people on the streets? alcoholism that is a cancer and canker in society? bribery? corruption? etc. when” you “do not have such things?” in dar-al-Islam.
I say;
In the UN human rights declaration it is forbidden to force anyone to migrate from where he is living to another place. So follow your UN human rights and stop bothering us. More over you do not have right in this modern world to force anyone to migrate anywhere and no one is going to tolerate your KKK behaviour by burning a cross and hanging blacks claiming they are not from your West and are not Christians
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Intellect wrote…
“In the UN human rights declaration it is forbidden to force anyone to migrate from where he is living to another place. ”
My response: LOL, again I say LOL. First I was not forcing anyone I was just asking politely for Muslims to leave us Kuffar alone. Something for some reason Muslims just don’t want to do.
But what is funny is that in the event that Muslims are repatriated to the Islamic Paradises they fled, you now appeal to the Kuffar Deceleration of Human rights to protect Muslims lol.
Whats the Aya in the Quran goes something like “Take not from their friends or protectors” LOL ahh the Hypocrisy of Muslims just knows no bounds.
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General Troll
If you cannot force anyone to migrate or un-migrate, then keep your mouth shut. We Muslims certainly do not need your advise because you an angry person and a racist who hates and will burn a Cross of Jesus Christ to hang black people because you think the “West” is for you alone and you do not want anyone there.
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General Troll it seems you have to agree with some Saudi opinion for instance to uphold your crude worldview. You really are a funny guy.
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General Troll
Human Rights exists for everyone before the UN was created, so I do not know what to call you if you believed human rights does not exists for everyone before the UN was created.
Muslims never fled from where they live to anywhere. Show me a proof for that. Refugees from Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia etc. were not Muslims alone but Jews, Christians, Atheist etc. as well and all from the war caused by evangelical Christians to spread Christianity by force.
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“I am a western supremacist.” Trollie boy you should thank the Muslims for being here. They provide your purpose in your petty hateful life. What would you be them? Nothing.
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General Troll
Quran 49:13
Yusuf Ali: O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
Pickthall: O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware.
General Troll you are not the best in conduct as both the Quran and the UN will want you to be.
Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
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General Troll
West, West, West. West. Do you know about “West”. The English migrated to England. It is not for them. The Europeans migrated to America and killed the native Indians and confiscated their lands. It is not for any white supremacist and religious supremacist like you to claim it so much so that you do not want to live with others who also migrated there just like you and your ancestors. Who gave you the “West”? Before you arrived there with your ships and boats other people were living there.
English also conquered so many countries of the world including the Arab and Black lands and rule them and colonized them and stole their resources and lands and now you General Troll has the guts to say migrants refugees should go back to their countries you stole.
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