This does not look good at all for Tzortzis. I hope he will publish an explanation for these apparently damning new facts.
reblogged from Breitbart London
Exclusive: Islamist Hamza Tzortzis’s Ashley Madison full account details revealed
Breitbart London can exclusively reveal that the Ashley Madinson account connected to the British Islamist preacher Hamza Tzortzis was validated by the adultery-enabling website, according to the raw data analysed by a senior data scientist.
Tzortzis originally took to his Facebook account this weekend to claim that the account was fraudulent, and said that he had made a complaint to his bank and the police. The Facebook post has now been removed.
Breitbart London approached data experts who have been studying the Ashley Madison database to ask questions about Mr Tzortzis’s story, which some of his Facebook fans said stretched credulity due to the detailed nature of his account.
Now we can exclusively reveal that Mr Tzortzis’s account, which listed him as an “Attached Male Seeking Female” including sexual preferences involving “Cuddling”, “Receiving Oral Sex” and “Sensual Massage.”
The account was created on 22 October 2014, directly after Mr Tzortzis’s Hajj (pilgrimage) to Mecca, as he stated in his Facebook post. This coincided precisely with a speaking tour of Australia that Mr Tzortzis was involved with, as advertised by his website. On 22 October, he was due to speak to the Muslim Student Association of New South Wales at the University of Western Sydney. The IP address of the user that signed up for Ashley Madison came from Sydney:
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I would not believe Breitbart…they lied about Asghar Bukhari, an elaborate internet based lie.
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you can check out what they say for yourself. Question: at what point do we stop making excuses?
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Breitbart.com is a conservative site initiated by the late Andrew Breitbart who lied and destroyed the career of African American lady Shirley Sherrod.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_of_Shirley_Sherrod
I am not supporting Hamza as I want the truth but the Breitbart.com and its founder are conservative Christians who want tarnish the reputations of African Americans and/or Muslims.
Of course Hamza’s story is interesting.
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it is very significant what the article reveals: about the emails sent to his account; the timing of his Australia visit; his sexual preferences; these all tell against Hamza’s cover story.
Do you see why? Does one need to spell it out?
As I said above: at what point do we stop making excuses?
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It is not excuses but brainstorming. Hamza might have done whatever is investigated by the Breitpart.com. It is unfortunate for him and if is true, he has to sincerely repent. But Breitpart.com was founded by a conservative liar who lied to an African American woman and caused her job. It is good Breitpart.com are exposing a Muslim but they must expose a Christian also but not keep silent and let others expose their Christian counterparts. After all and Islamic sites and Muslims are challenging Hamza to come clean or repent.
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Ok so I learned a little to much information about the sexual preferences of a Muslim. So did not want to know that.
Paul Williams wrote…
“Question: at what point do we stop making excuses?”
My Response: Paul what we are witnessing here is Islamic justice at the micro level. First as it was stated by Intellect on another thread “You did not catch him red handed”. In other words Intellect and others will ignore all the evidence unless he and or 4 MUSLIM witnesses actually saw Hamaza open the account.
Another point is Hamaza’s denial. As you know in Islam there is no confession of sins, as a matter of fact it would be a sin for him to confess that it actually was him who opened the account.
Another point is that Hamaza himself said this is perfectly Halah even if he was to go on Ashly Madison, as Intellect wrongfully claimed “a dating website”.
So all in all Muslims like Intellect, Yahya Snow and others will never ever ever come to the logical and rational conclusion based on the evidence that this was in fact Hamaza Tortiz on that site. And by the slim chance if they did, they would excuse it as Intellect and Hamaza already have done.
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intellect, everyone is making excuses for him, and finding reasons to discredit any new information that might come along.
So ‘malicious people’ (as Hamza called them) are out to get him and so set up a juicy account on AM. Now they want to portray him in a really bad light for maximum effect.
So they list him as an “Attached Male Seeking Female” including sexual preferences involving “Cuddling”, “Receiving Oral Sex” and “Sensual Massage.”
WOW! Im shocked! What a deviant!
Oh wait, i’ve just remembered: they might have said he was into guys, S&M, fetishes, cross dressing, dildos and goodness knows what else.
But cuddling????
I guess these ‘malicious people’ are very inexperienced sexually right? If you’re going to do pull someone down then throw some decent mud, not this fluff.
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Robert, for once, I agree with you.
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Robert Wells
You said;
So all in all Muslims like Intellect, Yahya Snow and others will never ever ever come to the logical and rational conclusion based on the evidence that this was in fact Hamaza Tortiz on that site. And by the slim chance if they did, they would excuse it as Intellect and Hamaza already have done.
I say;
Has Hamza raped your daughter or Sister? What is the evidence? Jimmy Swaggart was caught with prostitutes. Witnesses came out to accuse Pastor Eddie Long with pictures of him for sexually molesting them.
This is internet fraud and everything is possible. Muslims and Muslim sites are challenging Hamza to come clean or repent. He can only confess his sins to God and no one else. So far he has a conflicting response and also deleting questions to him by Muslims and not Christians, so as time goes by we will know the truth and his behaviour seems to indicate he has knowledge of the service.
In Islam he just has to confess to his God and sincerely repent and may be resign from his position in Islamic hierarchy or keep it and apologize to his people.
Breitpart.com is a lying site but I am not saying they lied about this one. Their investigation is revealing actually. We are waiting in the next few days to see Hamza’s reaction.
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Intellect, this is more than just whether he used AM. Having done so (as the evidence clearly suggests) he then lied and lied again to the world to cover his tracks.
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Paul Williams
I noticed the lie. It is unfortunate!!!
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@Paul, how can I, indepent of the liars at Breitbart, verify the claims?
I and others should not consider Breitbart as a source. I saw what they tried to do to Asghar Bukhari. I think I even blogged about it. Really, they are sneaky and use some odd ways to smear people.
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Has not the Ashley Madison database been downloaded online? Thats how Breitbart got it. If Breitbart are inventing stuff about Hamza he could easily sue them.
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Sorry guys, I’ve been skimming all this while doing other stuff…where did he lie?
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Ys and Intellect why is it so hard for you to believe that Hamaza was on the AM site cruising for some strange as they say. Do you seriously believe that Muslims are above such things?
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Gregg Wells
You said;
Ys and Intellect why is it so hard for you to believe that Hamaza was on the AM site cruising for some strange as they say. Do you seriously believe that Muslims are above such things?
I say;
No, Muslims are certainly not above such things Mr. Wells. The investigation is ongoing so we cannot conclude very fast as you and Paul Williams just concluded. The evidence is going against Hamza and as Breitpart.com was founded by a conservative liar who lied and caused the job of a black woman, and lying became the hallmark of his site, one has to be cautious before jumping into conclusion.
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Intellect, I am not rushing to judgement on Hamza. It so happens that I and others in London know a great deal more than we are making known online, all of which makes it virtually certain the accusations are true. But I can’t repeat what I know here. It would not be right at this stage.
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@Robert Wells
Stop your nuisance comments
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The thing is we try our best not to slander and to give the benefit of the doubt, if he did it then that is bad obviously, if he didn’t then obviously that would be horrible.
Here’s a great article though Paul: http://religiondispatches.org/why-it-still-makes-little-sense-to-call-isis-islamic/
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update: new information just in, check this out: http://therationaliser.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/what-we-know-about-hamza-tzortzis-and.html?m=1
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Paul Williams wrote…
Robert, for once, I agree with you.
Now thats scary lol
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Robert Wells
You said;
Ys and Intellect why is it so hard for you to believe that Hamaza was on the AM site cruising for some strange as they say. Do you seriously believe that Muslims are above such things?
I say;
No Muslim will tell you he is free from sin because he has no one dies for his sin and he(Muslim) is responsible for his sins. Unlike Christians who claim Jesus died for their sins, you will see just like Muslims they(Christians) are not free from sins either, because you always see Christians Church Fathers, Pastors, Politicians, actors and actresses, comedians like Bill Cosby, Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner, Pastor Eddie Long, Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell with prostitutes and many many more.
Who is lying here? Christians or Muslims? Of course Christians lied big time here. The blood of Jesus could not save them from sinning.
Will Pastor Eddie Lee Long who molested children of his Church not be punished or repented because Jesus had already died for his sins? and paid for what he did to this children? because he believes Jesus died for his sins?
If Eddie is accountable to this heinous act as a believer of Jesus dying for his sins, then I see no use in believing Jesus dying for one’s sin or Jesus’ death becomes useless and did not save anyone.
If Hamza has committed fornication or adultery, then he is responsible for his own sin but not his children and he has no one died for his sins for he is responsible for that.
If it proves to be true he know about the AM transaction, then it will be a big embarrassment to him but still no one caught him red handed, so he is not guilty of fornication or adultery according to Islamic law.
Sharia might allow a dating site to marry but not dating site for sex. There are so many Muslim dating for marriage site and it is halal if Islamic rule is adhere to and that is no sex, or what was described on the account before marriage.
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Getting rather interesting indeed. Although I admit my sorrow at the turn of events, I had since conceded to myself that Bro Tzortisz was involved in this. Really just think the best course of action at the moment is what most brothers have clamoured for: ‘repentance’.
Of course there isn’t an’ isnaad’ (being humorous here) of four eyewitnesses. However, there exist tons of evidences which are hard to dismiss. The position of evidences in Islam several brothers here do know. The verse of suratul baqara says it all ‘bring forth thy proofs if ye are truthful’.
(Apologies if any grammatical error exists in my comment. English was never my language. Missionaries (fore fathers of Robert Wells) have forced it on us.)
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which country is that which missionaries forced English on?
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