Just asking…

I read in papers today that the media is celebrating the “liberation of Ramadi” by the Iraqi army. And that is an unquestionably a good thing no?  Maybe not for the people of Ramadi who have in the past suffered under the Shia-dominated paramilitary force aka the ‘Iraqi army’, who have committed atrocities against Sunni civilians in many Iraqi cities. IS were seen as a credible defence against this sectarian oppression.

What will be their fate now? This question is not being discussed it seems.



Categories: Extremism, Islam, News

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  1. The only thing worse than ISIS are Shias apparently, Mr Williams.

    No wonder people have a hard time trusting Muslims

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  2. Mark

    You said;
    The only thing worse than ISIS are Shias apparently, Mr Williams.

    No wonder people have a hard time trusting Muslims

    I say;
    In all religions there are rivals and that results in deadly confrontations sometimes.

    It is the war that was supported by the evangelical Christians for Iraq invasion that caused isis and Sunni and Shite confrontation. They lived together for a long time without major problems until the Bush and Blair war.

    No wonder people have hard time trusting Christians as well who must persecute someone at all cost and in all times.

    Yes, the Catholics used to be worse than the protestants in Europe and will not allow any religion in Europe, including other sect of Christianity.

    John Calvin had to command the execution of Michael Sventus and burning him because he does not agree with Trinity and any one who dares challenge Trinity will have similar fate.

    When the USA turned into a protestant Christian country, the did persecute, torture and killed Catholics and Mormons. They did not spare blacks, Native Indians and Hispanics, until the war of independence put an end to these barbaric and brutal practice by the protestants.

    Now, the protestants have turned into evangelical Christians helping Israel to persecute the Palestinians and pushing for war in Muslim countries and supporting any one who will come out publicly to show hatred towards Muslims.

    Examples are Newt Gigrich, Ben Carson and Donald Trump.

    Imagine Muslims giving a standing ovation to a politician who say he will ban all Christians from coming to his country because they donate money to Israel to bulldoze Palestinian homes and farmlands. It never happened and will never happen because Muslims will not agree with him.

    But evangelical Christians agreed with Trump and he is leading in the polls.

    Thanks.

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  3. Mark

    It is hard time trusting evangelical Christians for their hatred towards non-evangelicals.

    Jesus said;
    Bring my enemy in front of me and murder him in cold blood.

    Thanks.

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  4. You defend Islamic murder by appeal to the medieval period? And stop this nonsense of blaming everyone else for Muslim atrocities. Take some responsibility!

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  5. Mark, why should I be responsible for what ISIS are doing?

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  6. Mark

    You said;
    You defend Islamic murder by appeal to the medieval period? And stop this nonsense of blaming everyone else for Muslim atrocities. Take some responsibility!

    I say;
    Kmak has a perfect question for you.

    I will add.

    -Most Islamic scholars the world over and all commenters here as Muslims condemned isis, boko, elshabab and any Islamic extremist to the extent of fighting them because Muslims were killed by these extremist than Christians.

    -They do not interpret the Quran well, just like how the crusaders, kkk, Lords Resistance Army, Jim Jones of Guyana tragedy, David Koresh etc. interpret the Bible to murder, torture and rape people.

    -Killing Catholics by the Protestant Christians is not medieval period but as recent as 70 years.

    -Murder of Palestinians preached by Christians like John Hagee, Jack Van Impe and the hate of Muslims by Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Newt Gingrich etc. is going on right now and not medieval. It cause hatred and attack on Mosques and assaulting Muslims especially our ladies in Hijab.

    -It is not every Christian that hate Muslims because most Christians have come out publicly condemning the Islamophobes and offered their Churches for Muslim to pray because part of it were burnt by extremist Christians of the Ben Carson and Donald Trump fame.

    -Last week Muslims protected their Christian brothers and sister in Kenya from the stupid elshabad. The Muslims un armed, refused to separate themselves from their Christian brothers and sisters and prefer to die with them from these idiot elshabab bandids.

    Mark, this is how the world must be. Muslim, Christian, Jews, Hindus who want peace must unite against any one who do not want peace.

    I can see, isis, boko, evangelical Christians who support Ben Carson and Donald Trump do not want peace. If you want peace why not team up with us against these extremist from both Islam and Christianity instead of blaming Muslims and Islam alone and ignoring the extremist from the other side?

    Thanks

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  7. When the state engages in terrorism it’s called counter terrorism.

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  8. Because they are your co-religionists. Every extremist is first a Muslim

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  9. Mark

    You are an extremist Christian who want to kill all Muslims, that is why you will attack only Muslims and Islam and will not blame a Christian John Hagee and Jack Van Impe who are preaching for Zionist alone to live Palestine and the Palestinians exterminated

    Don’t worry Mr. Mark, good Christians do not hate Muslims and they are offering their Churches for Muslims to pray because it was damaged by bad Christians like you who believed Islam and every Muslim is extremist.

    The head Christian pastor in Gaza told his Muslim brothers. “If they destroy your Mosques, come to our Church and pray your Muslim prayers”. It is the Zionists who are killing babies in the UN shelter in Gaza and the shelter is marked and the brutal Zionists soldiers ignored it and annihilated the babies who sought refuge there.

    In the US many Christians offered their Churches for Muslims to pray because their Mosques was vandalised by Donald Trump and Ben Carson supporters.

    In Kenya last two weeks, Muslims protected Christians from being killed by elshabab. The Muslims stood with the Christians against elshabab.

    This is how the world should be. Good people in all religions against bad people in all religions. In Egypt, Christians formed a wall to protect praying Muslims from the dictator(Mubarak) bandits whether Muslims or Christians.

    In Iraq, a Muslim broadcaster cried live on broad cast for how Christians are suffering in the hands of isis.

    This is how the world must be. Good ones against the bad ones. Mark you are a very bad and vicious person and you deserved to migrate and be with isis. Good Christians will not like you in their mist.

    Christians like you started terrorism by crusading and killing people till today.

    Thanks.

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  10. Mark, why stop there? ISIS are humans first. Thus, every human is responsible for the actions of ISIS. You’re an idiot.

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  11. They do it in the name of your Allah and by the sunnah set by your prophet. They don’t do it by appeal to human nature. Nice try idiot

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  12. Intellect. I ask you to deal with Islamic problems because you are a Muslim and somehow I am now an extremist that wants to kill all Muslims? Islamic logic is doing you no favours my friend.

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  13. Mark

    You are biased not to know Zionist are killing babies in United Nations compound in the name your religion. Anti abortions Christians are using your religion and killing Doctors praying in their Churches. If you think all these are medieval then you will be the most ignorant fellow I have ever come across.

    Bosnian Christians massacred Muslims in the name of your religion. The leaders were tried in the Hague for genocide.

    Lords Resistance Army in Uganda and Central African republic are using your religion in the name of Jesus to massacre because Jesus said’

    “Bring my enemy in front of me and kill him’

    There is genocide now in the Central African republic and because Christians are killing Muslims, you do not hear it in the news.

    There are extremist Buddhists massacring Muslims right now in Myanmar(Burma) and because Muslims are being killed you do not hear it in the news.

    Some Hindus are killing Muslims in India and you do not hear it in the news.

    I deal with bad people like you and isis as a Muslim. Of course I prefer a peace loving Christian than a violent Muslim and a violent Christians like you.

    That is what I am dealing with now-bad people, be it Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu etc.

    I do not deal with only Muslim bad because that will be stupid and useless. I deal with all bad people including you.

    Thanks.

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  14. Mark: They do it in the name of your Allah and by the sunnah set by your prophet. They don’t do it by appeal to human nature. Nice try idiot

    But they ARE humans. At the end of the day, these are humans claiming to do something in the name of religion. Thus by your logic, all humans are responsible.

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