I thought you had to be “full” of the Holy Spirit, not Jesus? In any case, I have found that most Christian apologists are certainly “full” of something, but it’s definitely not what they think. Lol.
to be “filled with the Spirit” (Ephesians 5:18; Acts 4:31) is a metaphor for being led by, and being influenced and controlled by the Holy Spirit – to submit to the Holy Spirit, who is God, the 3rd person of the Trinity, and allow Him to guide and control us – Galatians 5:13-26.
When we say “Jesus lives in my heart” – that is also metaphorical for having a spiritual connection and relationship with God through Christ and the Holy Spirit. It does not mean a literal spacial physical thing, because God the Spirit does not have spacial limitation or physical form.
Given the fact there are millions and millions of “Christians” claiming to be filled with “Jesus” (or the HS, depending on whatever suits them best that moment), one should see this “Jesus” at every street corner
i find it funny that they say “metaphorical” when invisible god became physical and measurable
the question i ask again and again and again and again , “what in invisible god” became man?
how many physical persons of god was daniel seeing in his dream? did yhwh wear a beard and was “one like a son of man” ?
christian: god is all powerful, why can’t he become man?
response: not powerful enough to blend/fuse/mix/dilute with human nature?
so what is god then? a ghost/jinn/spirit who simply possess a body which he did not become?
so a body was holding ghost of your god?
when it (ghost) left the flesh, did it possess the roman centurion and make him say “truly this is the son of god…”? so the roman centurion became god?
i don’t get the strange homosexual wording of m brown.
so m brown meets many people named jesus in galilee. he thinks he found jesus son of joseph leaving the tomb with linen clothing. brown approaches him and says ” “can you fill me…”?
its the same with jay smith. they have some infatuation with half naked human being leaving tomb with linen clothing.
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When we say “Jesus lives in my heart” – that is also metaphorical for having a spiritual connection and relationship with God through Christ and the Holy Spirit. It does not mean a literal spacial physical thing, because God the Spirit does not have spacial limitation or physical form.
I say;
-Jesus is physical with spacial limitation in physical form but you said he is your God. God #1.
-Then there is God the Spirit as you have written above and I count God #2.
It is absolutely polytheism and idol worshiping according to the Bible to worship 2 Gods.
What is your defence you do not worship 2 Gods here(in this case)?
I am now a fan of James White and listens to his DL because despite his choice, wish, freewill, to disobey God’s word(Quran) he does talk some sense.
He said God created a perfect human and without ceasing to be God He veiled his attributes to take on perfect human flesh.
-How can God veiled his attribute of all-knowing to not-all-knowing? at the same time?
So that He(God) knows the day of judgement and not know the day of judgement at the same time? It is impossible my Dear Doctor, with all due respect.
-Is He(God) not tricking Himself by veiling what He already knows? I do not think it will be possible for God to veil what He already knows.
-I know Dr. Whites picture, can I veil my attribute of knowing him to not knowing him? example to tell a court that I do not know my own son I lived in the same house with? No.
Ken Temple will say, as he usually say;
You are comparing God to human. I reply Ken Temple and say; dear, you said God became man and did eat and went to toilet like a man.
This is where the butchering of God into parts starts when Christian is trying to exonerate himself from the blaspheme of God becoming man.
I am glad you watch and / or listen to James White and his Dividing Line program. Keep listening and read some of his books also. Also see his debates on You Tube.
Folks, I would seriously not advise anyone (other than anthropologists and psychologists of religion) to watch and / or listen to James White.
I have read widely in the field of Christian theology and biblical studies over the years, and it’s clear to me that White expresses a fringe fundamentalist brand of Christian thought which has zero credibility in mainstream Christianity. I strongly suspect that if White attempted to undertake the standard undergraduate degree in theology at a major university such as Oxford and Cambridge he would fail it. Not because he has a low IQ but for his unwillingness to think critically about Christianity. This is why his ‘Doctor in Theology’ was issued by Columbia Evangelical Seminary an unaccredited distance-learning school, rather than an accredited institution of higher education in the US.
So folks, – don’t be taken in by White and those like him. They are not worth your time.
Go to the respected scholars at respected universities – read their books.
“He said God created a perfect human and without ceasing to be God He veiled his attributes to take on perfect human flesh.”
it is like me saying that God is all seeing
but then he created a “veiling switch” incorporated into the attribute of all seeing and then as human god literally SAW like a human i.e, gods divine person literally saw like you and me.
who would want to worship this copy of a god which has change in it?
so the who/person left some of the “1 what” and became disabled . so divine person became disabled or does white want his “one what” to be conscious and separated from the 100 percent person and continue on seeing, hearing and controlling the universe without the 1 who?
Paul Williams – telling people to avoid someone and not read them may make them want to find out more because it stirs up more curiosity within them.
What are you afraid of?
If he is not credible, you have nothing to worry about or be afraid of.
“respected scholars” – in the west, means skeptics and atheists and liberal scholars – like Bart Ehrman, John Dominic Crossan, etc.
“respected” by whom? – the mainstream liberal media, atheists, skeptics, agnostics, liberal leaning scholars.
Read Dr. White’s book, “The King James Only Controversy” and see his fluency in Greek and Greek textual variant and textual critical matters and church history and the history of the English Bible – I dare anyone to read his book and maintain the bigotry that you do against him.
Your unwillingness to even look into his material means bigotry – judging before you even read him.
At least I have actually purchased 5-6 books of the ones you like and reading them. (Dunn, Ehrman, Raymond Brown, Geza Vermes, Richard Bauckham, and another one who is influenced by liberal Biblical scholarship in the west – Reza Aslan)
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I thought you had to be “full” of the Holy Spirit, not Jesus? In any case, I have found that most Christian apologists are certainly “full” of something, but it’s definitely not what they think. Lol.
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I have always found it odd that some believe that Jesus resides in their internal organs. Sounds a little obscene.
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to be “filled with the Spirit” (Ephesians 5:18; Acts 4:31) is a metaphor for being led by, and being influenced and controlled by the Holy Spirit – to submit to the Holy Spirit, who is God, the 3rd person of the Trinity, and allow Him to guide and control us – Galatians 5:13-26.
When we say “Jesus lives in my heart” – that is also metaphorical for having a spiritual connection and relationship with God through Christ and the Holy Spirit. It does not mean a literal spacial physical thing, because God the Spirit does not have spacial limitation or physical form.
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“…., because God the Spirit does not have spacial limitation or physical form.”
Except that he has spacial limitation or physical form, we know.
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Dr. Michael L. Brown, that’s a good one.
Given the fact there are millions and millions of “Christians” claiming to be filled with “Jesus” (or the HS, depending on whatever suits them best that moment), one should see this “Jesus” at every street corner
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the spirit itself is created .
what do the christians say?
invisible god ——–> became ———-> physical and measurable——> human ——-> human soul
so god in his “spirit” became measurable
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i find it funny that they say “metaphorical” when invisible god became physical and measurable
the question i ask again and again and again and again , “what in invisible god” became man?
how many physical persons of god was daniel seeing in his dream? did yhwh wear a beard and was “one like a son of man” ?
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christian: god is all powerful, why can’t he become man?
response: not powerful enough to blend/fuse/mix/dilute with human nature?
so what is god then? a ghost/jinn/spirit who simply possess a body which he did not become?
so a body was holding ghost of your god?
when it (ghost) left the flesh, did it possess the roman centurion and make him say “truly this is the son of god…”? so the roman centurion became god?
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i don’t get the strange homosexual wording of m brown.
so m brown meets many people named jesus in galilee. he thinks he found jesus son of joseph leaving the tomb with linen clothing. brown approaches him and says ” “can you fill me…”?
its the same with jay smith. they have some infatuation with half naked human being leaving tomb with linen clothing.
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Ken Temple
You said;
When we say “Jesus lives in my heart” – that is also metaphorical for having a spiritual connection and relationship with God through Christ and the Holy Spirit. It does not mean a literal spacial physical thing, because God the Spirit does not have spacial limitation or physical form.
I say;
-Jesus is physical with spacial limitation in physical form but you said he is your God. God #1.
-Then there is God the Spirit as you have written above and I count God #2.
It is absolutely polytheism and idol worshiping according to the Bible to worship 2 Gods.
What is your defence you do not worship 2 Gods here(in this case)?
I am now a fan of James White and listens to his DL because despite his choice, wish, freewill, to disobey God’s word(Quran) he does talk some sense.
He said God created a perfect human and without ceasing to be God He veiled his attributes to take on perfect human flesh.
-How can God veiled his attribute of all-knowing to not-all-knowing? at the same time?
So that He(God) knows the day of judgement and not know the day of judgement at the same time? It is impossible my Dear Doctor, with all due respect.
-Is He(God) not tricking Himself by veiling what He already knows? I do not think it will be possible for God to veil what He already knows.
-I know Dr. Whites picture, can I veil my attribute of knowing him to not knowing him? example to tell a court that I do not know my own son I lived in the same house with? No.
Ken Temple will say, as he usually say;
You are comparing God to human. I reply Ken Temple and say; dear, you said God became man and did eat and went to toilet like a man.
This is where the butchering of God into parts starts when Christian is trying to exonerate himself from the blaspheme of God becoming man.
Thanks.
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I am glad you watch and / or listen to James White and his Dividing Line program. Keep listening and read some of his books also. Also see his debates on You Tube.
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Folks, I would seriously not advise anyone (other than anthropologists and psychologists of religion) to watch and / or listen to James White.
I have read widely in the field of Christian theology and biblical studies over the years, and it’s clear to me that White expresses a fringe fundamentalist brand of Christian thought which has zero credibility in mainstream Christianity. I strongly suspect that if White attempted to undertake the standard undergraduate degree in theology at a major university such as Oxford and Cambridge he would fail it. Not because he has a low IQ but for his unwillingness to think critically about Christianity. This is why his ‘Doctor in Theology’ was issued by Columbia Evangelical Seminary an unaccredited distance-learning school, rather than an accredited institution of higher education in the US.
So folks, – don’t be taken in by White and those like him. They are not worth your time.
Go to the respected scholars at respected universities – read their books.
Learn from them. I did. Its definitely worth it.
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“He said God created a perfect human and without ceasing to be God He veiled his attributes to take on perfect human flesh.”
it is like me saying that God is all seeing
but then he created a “veiling switch” incorporated into the attribute of all seeing and then as human god literally SAW like a human i.e, gods divine person literally saw like you and me.
who would want to worship this copy of a god which has change in it?
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notice what he said “without ceasing to be god”
but how does he define “god”
for him , his god is “1 what”
so the who/person left some of the “1 what” and became disabled . so divine person became disabled or does white want his “one what” to be conscious and separated from the 100 percent person and continue on seeing, hearing and controlling the universe without the 1 who?
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Paul Williams – telling people to avoid someone and not read them may make them want to find out more because it stirs up more curiosity within them.
What are you afraid of?
If he is not credible, you have nothing to worry about or be afraid of.
“respected scholars” – in the west, means skeptics and atheists and liberal scholars – like Bart Ehrman, John Dominic Crossan, etc.
“respected” by whom? – the mainstream liberal media, atheists, skeptics, agnostics, liberal leaning scholars.
Read Dr. White’s book, “The King James Only Controversy” and see his fluency in Greek and Greek textual variant and textual critical matters and church history and the history of the English Bible – I dare anyone to read his book and maintain the bigotry that you do against him.
Your unwillingness to even look into his material means bigotry – judging before you even read him.
At least I have actually purchased 5-6 books of the ones you like and reading them. (Dunn, Ehrman, Raymond Brown, Geza Vermes, Richard Bauckham, and another one who is influenced by liberal Biblical scholarship in the west – Reza Aslan)
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thanks for your thoughts Ken.
you are welcome to listen in…
https://bloggingtheology.net/2016/02/05/some-friendly-advice-to-my-muslim-brothers-sisters/
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