Converted2Islam: REAL Reason Why he Left Islam

Do you notice he looked more at peace whilst he was a Muslim? Take the advice of this video seriously – be sincere and humble brothers and sisters. Life is better with Islam. Islam is the best religion for you to get close to Allah and be spiritual; it gives you rules that help you build your spirituality and keep you out of trouble. Here’s another response to Conerted2Islam from EF Dawah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W28a6…



Categories: Islam

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  1. When did you guys have a personal conversation with this brave apostate in which he revealed his REAL reasons for leaving the faith?

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    • What does it matter what his reasons were? There is no reason to leave Islam and therefore the Islamic punishment is more than just. The Islamic punishment for apostasy is even too soft in my personal view.

      But it is obvious that he has some personal problems. He got seriously bigoted in the last two years as a Muslim ranting against Salafism/Wahhabism. He became a Qur’anist after reading a book from a Shaykh named Atabek Shukurov a couple of months ago. We are not saddened by his apostasy. This is a purge of religion. Now only someone needs to purge the earth from this filth.

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    • I am sad for his apostasy. Thankfully some brothers are speaking the truth about his ‘reasons’ (see the video below) in the hope he may be brought back to Islam.

      You should pray for him.

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    • Nadir, would you disappear if I flush my toilet?

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  2. His ‘reasons’ have been exhaustively refuted. Watch and learn…

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    • So you haven’t had a personal conversation with the guy to find out his REAL reasons for leaving?

      That aside, have you seen his latest video where he talks about all the death threats he’s been getting? Don’t you think it is irresponsible to make videos claiming that the guy is being dishonest about his reasons for leaving? Don’t you think that could incite more death threats?

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  3. “Do you notice he looked more at peace whilst he was a Muslim?”

    Well yah, he wasn’t getting all those death threats from Muslims when he was a Muslim

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    • We don’t care about this. So what if he is getting death threats?

      Most of the things are not actual threats but just cursing or general saying that apostates should be killed. Nobody is planning to kill him.

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    • Nadir, if I were you I would think twice before defending people who make death threats.

      In the UK the making of a threat to kill is an offence where the defendant intends the victim to fear it will be carried out. It is immaterial whether it is premeditated or said in anger.

      Although the normal maximum sentence is ten years, offenders deemed to present a “significant risk” of “serious harm” to the public can now receive a life sentence under the Criminal Justice Act 2003.

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    • That shows with what kind of oppression Muslims are confronted. Even though what I said was in no way an offence I will tell you that we don’t accept your intimidation. Killing apostates is good.

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    • Nadir – do you not know that any action against apostates must take place with due legal process, ie in a court with qualified judges?

      Are you aware that is a criminal offence to take the law into your own hands either in the West or in an Islamic society?

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    • You are right. It is only my personal wish.

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    • The guy has exaggerated about death threats. Insults, ad Hom attacks, etc.. although they are wrong, are not death threats.

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  4. Well, I guess Allah wasn’t willing or had the desire to help this guy, according to his own words.

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  5. KMAK, I gotta give that post to you! At least you are consistent!

    BTW, I wanted to share some advice with you but I didn’t do so because you said you don’t like to listen to uneducated unaccredited folk like myself.

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    • Shammy no need for your insincere cunning advice from you since we don’t like to listen to uneducated unaccredited folk like myself…your incompetent articles and posts clearly reflect this truth!.. May Allah guide you to islam!😉 Ameen!

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    • And yet here you are commenting and defending Islam on a blog owned by a man who is unaccredited in Islam and Christianity. Funny that.

      Inconsistency is never far from Muslim apologetics…

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    • Paulus.. maybe you’re a little bit upset cos your husband has stolen your handbag!.. and its made you a little looney!..

      Since when do you require to be credited in Islam and xanity to maintain a blog?! lol..br Paul hs done a superb job dismantling your myths and falsehoods

      whats funny! is the only qualifications you require to engage you and Sammy in matters about islam and xanity is to be able to play darts, tap your head and rub you tummy at the same time and make a cup of tea!

      Inconsistency is never far from christiam apologetics…

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  6. D (Robert)

    I highly doubt any of the so called death threats have real intent behind them – kids and emotional people say all sorts on the net. I recently showed an Islamophobe, who showcases the “death threats” he receives, to be attention-seeking and that those “death threats” he proudly displays for his propaganda and self-promotion were empty. Like I say bored/angry kids and people using sock accounts say all sorts of things they have no intention of carrying out.

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    • But why are the majority of threats from Muslims? We don’t see bored atheists, Christians, hindus, etc roaming the net threatening to kill people in the same way we do Muslims.

      Clearly, there is something inherent in their worldview that leads them toward violence.

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    • Yahya

      You cannot be that much of a moral monster?

      Of course you don’t view them serious or problematic – your videos may be inciting them after all – but to the person receiving death threats I’m sure it isn’t something he can easily blow off.

      Not surprising that muslims would express these attitudes – your profit wasn’t particularly empathetic.

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    • If this guy was truly in fear for his life he would of contacted the police.

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  7. D (Robert) and Paulus,

    Actually we see many non Muslims issuing death threats to various peple online – be they celebrities of Muslim scholars (see the video below for two Muslim scholars talking about death threats they receive REGULARLY from the far right)

    D, I’m not a moral monster. I’m a realist. I don’t buy the authenticity of many internet death threats. Again, watch the video below and it will show you one particular Islamophobe pretty much proving his “death threats” are just kids messing about on the net.

    As for you saying Prophet Muhammad lacked empathy. Let’s do away with this inconsistency from theevangelicals. Christians believe Jesus will return with a sword in his mout and slay people. They also believe (he ias a second person in a Trinity belief) ordered the slaughter of the Amalekites (men, women and children) and they also believe he allowed people to beat female slaves as long as they got up after day or two (Ex 21)

    Still want to talk about empathy in such a childish way?

    Anyways, here’s the video containing death threats to Muslim scholars and proving the bulk of “death threats” Islamophobes make a big deal out of are in all likelihood the product of immature and bored kids

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    • Yahya

      Well, you are something of a moral something. Your opinion on death threats don’t count – it is the effect on the person receiving them that is the issue. You don’t even have the moral compass to see that! LOL!!!

      Sure, you can ignore them because the threats aren’t directed at you. Some ethical system your profit taught you.

      “Let’s do away with this inconsistency from theevangelicals. Christians believe Jesus will return with a sword in his mout and slay people.”

      Awesome! How far do you think jesus would get killing people wielding a sword in his mouth? Try again, there is a different interpretation. Besides, we are not required to murder all the jews – like your merciful profit said you should do – before your mahdi returns top murder everyone else.

      Why are you calling me RObert?

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    • Hi D,

      I was instructed by somebody via email to reply to you.

      The context for “killing Jews” in Islamic eschatology is of that if a WAR. It’s not like some lynching and pogrom is being called for. There’s going to be a war between the Muslims and Jews. Obviously in a war people don’t tickle each others’ armpits. People kill each other.

      Don;t take it out of context.

      I don’t have time to continue this dialogue

      Peace

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  8. Another masterpiece from Converted2Islam exposing the gross sexual immorality of Muhammad. May our risen Lord use this man to set countless number of Muslims free from the false profit Muhammad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDh9eZKzbT0

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    • Paul’s Pal

      You ignore sexual immorality of your God Jesus Christ when he asked virgins to be used by their captives?

      You ignore your lord Jesus Christ when he said this

      ◄ Luke 19:27 ►

      Parallel Verses
      New International Version
      But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.'”

      New Living Translation
      And as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king–bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'”

      By the way have you ever enrolled into college, university or any institution to learn? It can be anything to learn and not necessarily theology.

      Your articles is full of shit and some Christians are now seeing that. You have no learning capability to write articles. You cannot go back to school and learn like David Wood, Nabeel etc. did because Jesus Christ do not love you because he did not heal your stomach and that is why you cannot learn.

      Thanks.

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    • Welcome back intellect. You were missed.

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    • Intellect

      Tu quoque.

      You comment deserves scorn, but how does your argument change the fact that your religion was founded by someone who had sex outside of marriage, with a slave – making it rape, and who conveniently received a “revelation” saying that he had god’s permission to do so?

      No one but the gullible would believe that this is anything other than a man-made fabrication by mohammed to give himself special rights to rape slaves.

      Consider this, his actions were considered so obscene even by 7th century standards that he had to pretend that “god” gave him special permission to continue his depraved behaviour.

      You sound like a likeable and intelligent guy – when you are not trying to defend islam – I doubt that if it wasn’t for your islamic conditioning, that you would find this behaviour unethical.

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    • Man, you polemicists just can’t get enough of sex topics. As for Muhammad (saw)’s Christian concubine, what exactly was immoral about this relationship? Was it immoral on deontological grounds? utilitarian grounds? Divine command theory? Virtue ethics?

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    • kmak

      You need it explained to you why holding someone against their will and forcing them to have sex is immoral? Must be the islam in you.

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    • D: You need it explained to you why holding someone against their will and forcing them to have sex is immoral? Must be the islam in you.

      The data does not show that Maria (as) was held against her will or raped. So explain to me again why the relationship was immoral?

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    • kmak

      Be careful playing dumb like that – people will start to believe it.

      She was slave – that means by definition that she was held against her will.

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    • D, I am a trained social scientist and all I am doing is applying the hypothesis testing framework to this issue. A hypothesis or assertion is valid only to the extent that it is supported by data. You assert Mariah was held against her will and raped. There are no data to support this. On the contrary, we do have data which show the Prophet(saw) freed her and then married her. Do you have data that she was raped?

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    • kmak

      Social scientist – LOL!!

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    • Poor D. Too dumb and uneducated to think analytically.

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    • poor kmak – too islamic to think ethically.

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    • D. You are partially correct. I am Islamic AND ethical. I am also highly educated which is why I am able to think analytically. You are just some loser troll.

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    • Btw D, Mariah was a Christian slave. Can you quote the relevant NT teaching on how Christian slaves are supposed to be obedient?

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    • kmak

      the NT doesn’t try to claim that slave owning can be virtuous. And nowhere does it say that you should have unbridled sex with your slaves.

      Tu quoques aside, what does that have to do with mohammed having sex with a slave girl, and the “revelation” that made it moral?

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    • And, sorry, you are not analytical in the least.

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    • D, I asked what the NT says about Christian slaves being obedient. I didn’t say anything about sex. Man, you are obsessed with sex.

      So what does the NT say about Christian slaves being obedient?

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    • It day slaves must obey their owners even when they are cruel to them. Not very enlightened

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    • kmak

      dude, make a point!

      The issue is that your profit had sex with a slave – someone held against their will. His wives thought it was reprehensible – i.e. two wives witnessed it and therefore their witness is sound.

      Stop trying to change the subject.

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    • Poor D. Can’t even quote his own Scriptures. I wonder if you are the stupidest troll to post in the history of this blog.

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    • kmak

      Turn away from the darkness, son. You’re better than islam.

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    • Islam by definition means surrender to the will of God. Only a demon would advise someone not to do this.

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    • Better than Islam? Islam is not a person you uneducated moron.

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    • Paul Williams

      “It day slaves must obey their owners even when they are cruel to them. Not very enlightened”

      Too much tu quoque!!

      Where does it say slave owning is a virtue, and that it is okay to have unbridled sex with your slaves?

      That aside, your profit’s wives had more moral integrity than your profit – they saw that sex outside of marriage with a slave was reprehensible. I agree with them.

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    • Paul in Romans 13 says ALL authority comes from God and whoever resists authority disobeys God.

      Paul wrote these words when Nero was Caesar and slavery the indispensable institution the Empire depended upon.

      Slaves do not resist your owners, even when they are cruel to you. God it seems gave them this authority. And he is virtue personified no?

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    • Paul Williams

      “Islam by definition means surrender to the will of God. Only a demon would advise someone not to do this.’

      I thought islam meant “peace”. Someone bin lyin’.

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    • No, you are just ignorant. Ho hum…

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    • D, let me expose KMak for pretending to be intelligent and for trying to wax eloquent. KMak, if you were living at the time of Muhammad would your mother, sisters, wives, daughters etc. have been ok with Muhammad and his followers taking them captive and having sex with them while their husbands were still alive? Or would your mother, sisters, wives, daughters condemned this act as nothing more than adulterer and rape? And would they have been further upset with Muhammad deciding to sleep with them on a day assigned to one of his other wives, and in the very bed and home of that other wive while she was absent? Or would they have viewed Muhammad as being immoral for not controlling himself and waiting to sleep with them on another day and on their very own beds, instead the bed of someone else?

      However, if they did deem such acts as immoral, would they do so deontological grounds? utilitarian grounds? Divine command theory? Virtue ethics? Hopefully, you will be able to help us uneducated and illiterate folks like your profit understand in light of your training as a social scientist. 😉

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    • Shamoun, since you are so interested in the opinions of my mother, wife and sister; they all think you are an uneducated, repulsive piece of shit. Any other thought experiments involving them?

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    • Paul Williams

      “Paul in Romans 13 says ALL authority comes from God and whoever resists authority disobeys God.”

      That’s because we are to trust god’s justice – because he is a just god. Chrsitianity teaches to trust god, not the sword, and certainly not any barbaric human being who has sex with slaves against the wishes of his wives.

      Islam teaches to submit to man made laws because the islamic god is not just and cannot be trusted, christianity teaches to trust god and his justice because he is a just god.

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    • Paul’s Pal

      “D, let me expose KMak for pretending to be intelligent and for trying to wax eloquent. ”

      Yeah, kmak’s appeal to his own authority was laughable.

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    • D

      You said;

      D

      July 13, 2016 • 8:57 am

      Intellect

      Tu quoque.

      You comment deserves scorn, but how does your argument change the fact that your religion was founded by someone who had sex outside of marriage, with a slave – making it rape, and who conveniently received a “revelation” saying that he had god’s permission to do so?

      I say;
      Let us be reasonable please. Give me any proof in the Quran where it says Prophet Mohammed has raped a slave woman.

      Do not put twists here and there like how Trinitarians always do like they say “Jesus chose to do this or that” where Jesus never ever said “I chose” but Jesus said “I was sent”, “To the Father who sent me” etc.

      Show me where it is said from the Quran that Prophet Mohammed should rape a slave girl? They are so many verses and we provided them here over and over that said no one should force a slave into anything and freeing slave or slaves is the best thing a Muslim can do.

      A slave must get her dowry and she must have consent before any sexual intercourse. Our prophet paid any dowry to a slave he married.

      Prophet Abraham married his slave. David in the Bible has so many wives outside wed lock and there is incest and many atrocities in the Bible. Why not deal with the Bible and Christianity first and stop being a Christian because it is worse than Islam.

      Then we can talk on this matters. Otherwise you will be like Sam Shamoun who has stomach the size of two pregnant women and cannot go back to school and learn but to insult Islam and Muslims rather than dealing with his stomach full of evil from satan. I guess Jesus does not love Sam Shamoun that is why he allow him to suffer with big stomach but Jesus loves Nabeel Quraish, a handsome guy preaching with designer dress and lying and collecting money from unsuspecting Christians.

      Sam Shamoun has proven to us that Jesus’s death is in vain because he did not die for his sins because his stomach is full of sins.

      Thanks.

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    • intellect

      are you a quranist?

      The quran does not say that your god has 99 personalities does it, yet that is what you believe?

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  9. Thanks Paul Williams.

    I was writing a certification exams. InshaAllah, I have passed. I will be writing others in the future so pray for me.

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  10. D

    You said;

    July 13, 2016 • 9:31 am

    kmak

    Be careful playing dumb like that – people will start to believe it.

    She was slave – that means by definition that she was held against her will

    I say;
    You forgot Prophet Abraham married his slave in the Bible? and you believed her son Ismael is illegitimate?

    So deal with your prophet in the Bible raping a slave girl and having illegitimate child and stop being a Christian before attacking Islam on an unfounded bases. Otherwise you will be like Sam Shamoun.

    There is incest, drug, drunkenness, rape etc. in the Bible commanded by Jesus Christ and here is an example

    ◄ Luke 19:27 ►

    Parallel Verses
    New International Version
    But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

    New Living Translation
    And as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king–bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.’”

    Mr. D, a honest person will stop being a Christian because it is far, far worse than Islam. Honestly, you cannot be a Christian and blame Islam for sex, rape, murder etc. when Jesus himself commanded murder to those who will not let them rule over them.

    Thanks.

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  11. Isma’eel was a salafi from his convertion till November 2014, when he revealed his new video concept about the Horns of the Najd. The Najd is an area in Saudi Arabia which is famous for the Saudi interpretation of Islam called Wahabism.

    Why did he so suddenly go on a crusade against Saudis official version of Islam? Is it maybe because he had a personal vendetta against a Saudi?

    On his official Facebook page, in November 2014 after he announced his anti Salafi/Wahabi video, he posts a link to an article about how Saudi women like foreigners.

    Now heres the important part: it is claimed that Ismaa’eel married a Saudi woman without her fathers permission. The Fathers name was Khalaf alShaek. When they asked to get married, the father chocked his daughter in March 2104 and was deported from Canada… the article is still online.

    Could this also be the reason why he also eventually left Islam?

    His initial problems with Islam was first Salafis a few month after his Father in law rejection, then he completely dropped following Hadith a couple of years later, holding onto Quran only. At this point, the beggining of this year, I debated with him on FB. I told him that his exist from Islam was imminent if he continued to reject hadith. His argument was that Muslim scholars should only rely on Quran in legal rulings. The words of the Messenger Muhammad should not be used for Islamic Laws.

    I believe that his motivation for this was due to his experience with his Saudi father in law and his marrige to a Saudi woman. If he could go on a anti Salafi/Saudi rant because of his father in law, why could it not be a reason for his exit from Islam? The Saudis, follow hadith and Islamic laws, which gives rights to that the father has the right to chose a spouse for his virgin daughter. It also gives leeway for a father to marry his daughter to someone appropriate in lineage and wealth. To Ismaa’eel, as a quran only muslim, this would be a contraditiom of quran.

    Ismaa’eel was not an arab from a Saudi tribe, hence he was not suitable to according to the father to marry his daughter. There are cases in Saudi where marriages were annulled, because of a man of a lower tribe lying about his lineage and marrying an affluent woman from a more noble tribe or lineage.. The marriages were annulled because he misrepresentated himslef, but it shows that Islam accepts suitability in nobility in marriage.

    Thus, Ismaa’eels move from Quran and Hadith to Quran only Islam. He rejected Hadith, becuase it interfered with his personal life! This is not implausable, because he says in 2014 that he will reject any scholar who goes against his own legal opinion (not that he was qualified to have one) on saying Merry Chistmas to Christians.

    So Ismaa’eels rant against Islam is based on his own unqualified opinions. In my debates with him, I found him to be a ‘know it all’. Anything mentioned, he would arrogantly say he knew, as if he was a Scholar or more knowlegable. When he translated and interpreted some verses incorreclty, I refuted him with basic Arabic grammar and found that he didnt really have an elementary grasp of basic arabic grammar!

    Those who chose to follow him must know that he is a man of whims and fancies. His follows his personal feeling and desires and if the the facts are correct about this Saudi episode, then he is a person who is driven by personal grudges and not unbiased impartial thought.

    One who seeks truth, puts aside personal feelings and grudges.

    May Allah grant us understanding.

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