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Categories: Life in the West, Terrorism

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  1. Paul Williams and all other Muslims living in Europe. Im curious do you guys have an exit strategy?

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  2. Sh

    You want to follow Jesus command

    Luke 19:27
    Verses

    New International Version
    But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.'”

    New Living Translation
    And as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king–bring them in and execute them right here in front of me

    Not all Europeans are Christians to help you exterminate anyone like your ancestors did and did to themselves. This tit for tat started when you extremist Christians voted for Bush/Blair war in Iraq. You are praying for the extermination of millions of Muslims and many like Paul Williams who has never seen any country to live in. Your wicked wishful thinking will never materialize because the tit for tat between Muslim extremist and Christian extremist started from the Bush/Blair war and it is ongoing and it is long time and no one buys your terrorist thinking.

    Lets stop war and stabilize middle East that Christians like you supported to destroy and now supporting Donald Trump who is not a serious Christian to finish Muslims, Hispanics, Blacks, Handicapped, Women etc. and all vulnerable for you.

    Thanks.

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  3. Sh Muslims come from all different backgrounds. There are Muslims who are citizens of their respective countries in Europe, including white Europeans who were born in their particular country. Where do you suggest they go?

    I seriously don’t understand when people over generalise and call for all Muslims to leave or ask where they’ll go next. Using Muslims as scapegoats for problems in your country will not magically solve every issue, this is a human problem rather than a religious or racial one.

    Sh there are Muslims worldwide who feel just as disgusted and shocked by these attacks as you might be. I’m not Muslim but I’m aware enough to know this isn’t the responsibility of every Muslim. That would be like me blaming slavery and the scramble for Africa on every white person.

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    • Oops

      Good one there my brother. Sh is a supporter of Donald Trump who is not a serious Christian or a serious republican but to insult Muslims, Hispanics, Blacks, Handicapped, Women and that is what Sh wants to vote for Trump. Thinking Trump will exterminate Muslims for him. He forgets these evangelical Christians voted for wars in the middle east to create vacuum for isis.

      They said Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, they are gone, Saddam, Gaddafi, most leaders of alqaeda were killed by the Western government and the problem is still there. Sh, do you think Donald Trump can go and kill everyone and you will be at peace? You “dandyhead” Mr. Sh.

      Oops is intelligent and interacting with him is learning but not you Sh.

      Sh, what you are doing for Donald Trump now, you did it for Bush/Blair war and you did not solve anything but to aggravate the situation on killings. It is human problem and Christians using their government to provoke the radical Muslims. All will be stopped my good people like me and Oops. The Christians were stopped before by Good people before their rampage that Sh is praying for.

      Source: Source:http://www.history.com/topics/reformation

      Along with the religious consequences of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation came deep and lasting political changes. Northern Europe’s new religious and political freedoms came at a great cost, with decades of rebellions, wars and bloody persecutions. The Thirty Years’ War alone may have cost Germany 40 percent of its population.

      Thanks.

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    • Oops wrote… “Sh Muslims come from all different backgrounds. There are Muslims who are citizens of their respective countries in Europe, including white Europeans who were born in their particular country.”

      My response…So where the Jews in 1939 Germany. That didn’t work out so good for them..

      Oops wrote…”Where do you suggest they go? ”

      My response Any where but there, and the US, yah definitely not the USA.

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  4. BTW are the Muslims who murdered the 82 year old priest “The Best of Allah’s creatures?” Are they “better than the best of the Kuffar” Even better than the 82 year old pries they murdered?

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    • Nice straw man. When I went to the Masjid to get a free Quran, all the little old Muslim dude could tell me was how he loved the people of the book, how they are his brothers, Jews and Christians to be specific. He was a wonderful man full of love and full of God consciousness! I used to hate Muslims, I hated them with my heart and soul, but I just can’t walk down those dark roads no more, I pray for God’s mercy cause YHWH/AlLLAH knows that I have much to repent for,too much,unfortunately.

      I only hope that I can live with such love and faith. That that old brother had.

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    • No its not a strawman, and allah aint YHWH.

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    • Sh’it: BTW are the Muslims who murdered the 82 year old priest “The Best of Allah’s creatures?”

      No, those Muslims and you are pieces of excrement. You also didn’t answer my question. Is Europe becoming radicalized due to what extremist Muslims are doing?

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    • Kmac so the Quran was wrong? Are you saying Allah’s words are wrong?

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    • No, all I am saying is you and Daesh are excrement.

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  5. Actually, your wrong. Arabic Christians refer to God as Allah. But its all good.

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    • They may do that in the Generic sense but none of them would refer to allah as the divine Name.

      So tell me are the Muslim killers who killed the priest “The best of allahs creatrues” as the quran teaches? Are they better than the priest they killed”?

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  6. First off, I’m not Muslim, I’m a proud Biblical Unitarian just like Jesus was. Are the Hebrews that slaughtered everyman women and child the best of YHWH’s people, are they better than the people they butchered? Just think, even the Quran doesn’t mandate the killing of the elderly, women and children. But good luck on your quest for truth.

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    • Do you believe in human sacrifice as means for salvation? Jesus didn’t.

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    • Jason W, wrote…

      “I’m a proud Biblical Unitarian just like Jesus was. Are the Hebrews that slaughtered everyman women and child the best of YHWH’s people, are they better than the people they butchered?”

      You’re a proud heretic who just compared the Holy God of Israel and his faithful followers to two murderers who slaughtered a Catholic Priest.

      I’m curious do you believe that Mohamed is a Prophet?

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    • Burhanuddin1,

      Honestly, I should have said I’m a confused Monotheist. I think there are a ton of issues with the New Testament. I’m honestly a bit bewildered by all these different religions and honestly not sure what to believe or who is right. I think it’s obvious that the gospel are full of legends and myth making, again,I don’t say that to disrespect any Christians on this blog but that’s just how I honestly feel deep down in my gut.

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    • Jason I for one appreciate your honesty.
      Proverbs 11:2 – Pride leads to disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

      Stay humble and keep learning, one day you’ll come to a place where you feel at peace with your own beliefs. God bless.

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  7. Sh,

    Maybe you should read some Rumi and ponder the words of a poet (the greatest in my opinion ) drunk off of the love of God. It just may soften your heart.

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    • Jason

      Good one there my brother. Sh forgot where Jesus said and I copied

      Luke 19:27
      Verses

      New International Version
      But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

      New Living Translation
      And as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king–bring them in and execute them right here in front of me

      Throughout history, Christians have been butchering people to death and Sh did not sympathize with the slaughtered Jews by a Christian Hitler. Sh want Muslims including whites like Paul Williams, Abdul Rahim Green, Tim Winter, Tim Humble to be murdered like how Jews where murdered in Germany because there are Muslims.

      He is furious a White Christian was killed but is happy about the Jews who were slaughtered by a Christian White Hitler and compared the Jews to Muslims. Yes, Jews are the cousins of Muslims and Muslims saved the Jews from the blood thirsty crusaders and they lived with Jews until the Zionist Christians once again caused enmity between some of them.

      Sh is more wicked than isis from his comment. He follows the commands of Jesus above.

      Thanks.

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    • Intellect

      Why do you keep copy-pasting that quote from luke as though that has defined christian belief and practice when it hasn’t. There are countless examples from your religious sources in which muslims are exhorted to kill for gain, profit, power, sexual advantage and on and on.

      That quote that you like so much is largely agreed upon to be a prophetic verse that provides an allegory for god’s judgement at some future time and in which it is god’s angels – the instrument of his judgement, not christians – who are called upon to enact judgement. Even then, the implication is that when jesus is revealed in his full divine glory and enters creation, those who lived by sin and injustice are laid bare and wither and die by virtue of his glory, not from bloodlust.

      Your god requires the blood of humans – apostates and adulterers – to be sated, and he promises perverted sexual favors to those who do his evil bidding in this world and the next.

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    • Intellect Hitler was not a Christian. He was raised as a catholic but largely rejected it by the time he got older. Any instance of him claiming to be Christian or believing in Jesus was for political reasons, otherwise he would not have been elected for office in Germany at that time.

      And I don’t see the significance of quoting Luke 19:27. It’s a parable depicting a King (presumably Jesus) carrying out capital punishment on those who hated and despised him in a future time. It has nothing to do with actual doctrine. Capital punishment is a law in Islam, is that justification for me to then go on saying that Muslims have butchered people in the past because of this law just as you say Christians have? Because surely in the Muslim past and currently, this has happened plenty of times.

      I know you’re trying to make ignorant Christians aware of double standards but I think you can do it in a much better way.

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  8. D

    You said;

    D

    July 27, 2016 • 6:45 am

    Intellect

    Why do you keep copy-pasting that quote from luke as though that has defined christian belief and practice when it hasn’t. There are countless examples from your religious sources in which muslims are exhorted to kill for gain, profit, power, sexual advantage and on and on.

    That quote that you like so much is largely agreed upon to be a prophetic verse that provides an allegory for god’s judgement at some future time and in which it is god’s angels

    I say;
    The verse in Luke says what it is. It says Jesus said his enemies who are not at war must be killed in front of him. What a cruel Jesus!

    Imagine if an Imam of a certain Mosque said the exact same thing or Prophet Mohammed said the same thing you fools will say Islam is bad. You have the gut to explain to me what this cruel saying of Jesus is and it says enemies of Jesus must be killed and that is what it said and it is cruel, intolerance, from Jesus Christ and I will quote it.

    Do not get me annoyed by sugar quoting this terrible verse by Jesus Christ. It said Jesus Christ enemies must be killed and it is very cruel.

    You have the audacity to keep blaming Muslims but ignore this cruel Jesus Christ of the Bible. It is annoying attacking Muslims and sugar coating this brutal verse of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ said his enemies must be killed as plain and simple and no sugar coating can undue the harm. Christians have used it to murder people from centuries to centuries and murdered themselves and today voting for war in middle east and Israel and the evangelical Christians are the problem of this world.

    Jesus commanded illegitimate sex, rape, incest, murder in the Bible. Sugar coating will not help you.

    Thanks.

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    • Oops

      You said;
      And I don’t see the significance of quoting Luke 19:27. It’s a parable depicting a King (presumably Jesus) carrying out capital punishment on those who hated and despised him in a future time. It has nothing to do with actual doctrine. Capital punishment is a law in Islam, is that justification for me to then go on saying that Muslims have butchered people in the past because of this law just as you say Christians have? Because surely in the Muslim past and currently, this has happened plenty of times.

      I say;
      Is a parable to kill a persons enemy in the future good for you? Christians have used that verse and more similar ones in the Bible to persecute people and to persecute themselves until beaten and stopped by peace loving people like me and you here trying hard to stop D and Sh.

      Oops, the verse said Jesus enemies must be murdered in front of him. What a cruel verse. Jesus commanded illicit sex, murder, incest, drug, drunkenness and horrible things in the Bible but Christians will ignore them and attack Islam. How dare are they when the have Jesus commanding his enemies to be murdered in peace not even in war. Just because they do not agree with him.

      Jesus’s sinful nature of anger according to Ken Temple allowed him to sin by hating a woman and calling her dog. Ken Temple said sinful nature of anger and hate is sin and so Jesus sinned by hating this woman. Jesus destroyed property by ransacking tables and causing disorderly conduct which could have put him to jail.

      Christians like D ignore all these and keep attacking Muslims and Islam. I know anyone has a way of defending his religion and so if you live in a glass house do not throw stones.

      An atheist can attach Muslims and Islam as violent but not Christians. If a Christians attack Muslims as violent it is very easy for me to quote what Jesus said and no sugar coating by them can undue the damage Jesus cause. Whether is parable or not it is about killing Jesus’s enemy and it is cruel, violent and barbaric.

      Hitler said he is a Christian and if he is not then he lied. I am just saying what I know him to be. He could be lying but his actions and utterance is like a Christian.

      Thanks.

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  9. Oops

    Capital punishment is to execute someone who deliberately killed someone. Jesus did not say anything about capital punishment but those who do not agree with him and that is not capital punishment but force like how Christians force converted or killed Muslims and Jews. They Christians force converted themselves or killed each other ie. Catholics, protestants, Mormons etc.

    D and Sh will ignore this dreadful command by Jesus Christ and those that he commanded to murder children and kill animals but just to attack Islam.

    Killing anyone who do not agree with you is not capital punishment but murder.

    Jesus commanded for apostates to be killed.

    Thanks.

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  10. A.About Luke 19:27,where the king,most probably Jesus,says,in a parable:

    ” But as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!’””

    B.Jesus told MANY parables,and MAYBE in the end he will order his followers to kill those who were with the Antichrist/Beast and the False Prophet (book of Revelation).

    I say maybe,because it is a parable,and parables with Jesus are NOT 100% meant to be taken literally.

    C.The most famous example is the Parable of the Tenants

    It is about the death of Jesus</b,it is in:

    Matthew 21:28-46

    Mark 12:1-12

    Luke 20:9-19

    D.It was told to the religious elders who disputed Jesus. In the parable:

    The landowner – represents God

    The vineyard – His Kingdom

    The tenants – the religious leaders

    The servants – God’s prophets

    The beloved son – Jesus

    E.Jesus tells them of a landowner who places his vineyards in the hands of tenant workers.

    Tenant farmers lease the land, care for the crops and reap reward from the harvest with a set amount going to the landowner. The landowner sent his servants to collect his share.

    The servants were beaten, driven away, and some were killed.

    Finally, the owner sent his beloved only son. The tenants, rejecting the son, killed him as well.

    F.Then Jesus asked in Mark 12:9, “What then will the owner of the vineyard do(God)?

    Luke 20:16 says “destroy” instead of “kill”,Matthew 21:41 says “totally destroy” instead of “kill”.

    He(God) will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others.”

    Notice that in real life the Jewish enemies of Jesus,who killed him,were NOT killed or destroyed by God.

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  11. Notice also that in the same parable,there is no resurrection of the beloved son,he is killed,and not even buried

    Mark 12:8

    “And they took him, and killed him, and cast him forth out of the vineyard.”

    Matthew 21:39

    ” And they took him, and cast him forth out of the vineyard, and killed him.”

    Luke 20:15

    “And they cast him forth out of the vineyard, and killed him. “

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  12. Here is the list of Jesus’ parables,they are a lot,it was a custom among Jewish teachers and rabbis to tell parables and stories,it is in Jewish literature,but Jesus’ parables are the most known and maybe the most artistic from the point of view of literature:

    PARABLES FROM NATURE

    The Sower and the Seeds (Mark 4:3-9; Matt 13:3-9; Luke 8:5-8)

    The Grain of Wheat (John 12:24)

    The Weeds in the Grain or the Tares (Matt 13:24-30)

    The Net (Matthew 13:47-50)

    The Seed Growing Secretly (Spontaneously) or The Patient Husbandman (Mark 4:26-29)

    The Mustard Seed (Matt13:31f.;Mark 4:30-32; Luke 13:18 f.)

    The Leaven (Matthew 13:33; Luke 13:20 f.)

    The Budding Fig Tree (Matt 24:32 f.; Mark 13:28 f.; Luke 21:19-31)

    The Barren Fig Tree (Luke 13:6-9)

    The Birds of Heaven (Matthew 6:26; Luke 12:24)

    The Flowers of the Field (Matt 6:28-30; Luke 12:27f.)

    The Vultures & the Carcass (Matt 24:28; Luke 17:37)

    The Tree and its Fruits (Matthew 7:16; Luke 6:43-49)

    The Weather Signs (Luke 12:54-56; cf. Matthew 26:2 f.; Mark 8:11-13)

    WORK AND WAGES

    Master and Servant (Luke 17:7-10)

    The Servant Entrusted with Authority or The Faithful and Unfaithful Servants (Matt. 24:45-51; Luke 12:42-46)

    The Waiting Servants (Luke 12:35-38; Mark 13:33-37)

    The Laborers in the Vineyard or The Generous Employer (Matthew 20:1-16)

    The Money in Trust or The Talents (Matthew 25:14-30; Luke 19:12-27)

    The Lamp (Matt 5:14-16; Mark 4:21; Luke 8:16, 11:31) and The City Set on a Hill (Matt. 5:14b)

    The Body’s Lamp (Matthew 6:22 f.; Luke 11:34-36)

    The Discarded Salt (Matt 5:13; Mark 9:50; Luke 14:34 f.)

    The Patch and the Wineskins (Matthew 9:16 f.; Mark 2:21 f.; Luke 5:36-39)

    The Householder’s Treasure (Matthew 13:52)

    The Dishonest Steward (Luke 16:1-12)

    The Defendant (Luke 12:58 f.; Matthew 5:25 f.)

    The Unforgiving Official or The Unmerciful Servant (Matthew 18:23-35)

    The Rich Fool (Luke 12:16-21)

    The Wicked Vinedressers (Matthew 21:33-41; Mark 12:1-9; Luke 20:9-16)

    The Two Builders (Matthew 7:24-27; Luke 6:47-49)

    The Two Debtors (Luke 7:41-43)

    The Hidden Treasure (Matthew 13:44)

    The Pearl of Great Price (Matthew 13:45 f.)

    OPEN & CLOSED DOORS

    The Closed Door (Luke 13:24-30)

    The Doorkeeper (Mark 13:33-37; cf. Matt 24:42)

    The Thief in the Night and the Faithful Servants (Matthew 24:42-51.; Luke 12:32-48.)

    The Strong Man Bound (Matthew 12:29; Mark 3:27; Luke 11:21 f.)

    The Divided Realm (Mark 3:24-26; Luke 11:17-20)

    The Unoccupied House or The Demon’s Invasion (Matthew 12:43-45; Luke 11:24-26)

    The Importunate Neighbor (Luke 11:5-8)

    The Son’s Request (Matthew 7:9-11; Luke 11:11-13)

    The Unjust Judge or The Importunate Widow (Luke 18:1-8)

    The Pharisee and the Publican (Luke 18:9-14)

    WEDDINGS AND FEASTS

    The Sulking Children or The Children in the Marketplace (Matthew 11:16-19; Luke 7:31-35)

    The Arrogant Guest (Luke 14:7-11)

    The Bridegroom’s Friend (John 3:28)

    The Bridegroom’s Attendants (Matthew 9:15a; Mark 2:18 f.; Luke 5:34)

    The Bride’s Girlfriends or Ten Virgins (Matt25:1-13)

    The Tower Builder and The Warring King (Luke 14:28-32)

    The Wedding Feast or The Unwilling Guests (Matt 22:1-10; Luke 14:16-24)

    The Wedding Garment (Matthew 22:11-14)

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    LOST AND FOUND, FATHER AND SON

    The Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37)

    The Prodigal Son or The Loving Father (Luke 15:11-32)

    The Two Sons, The Apprentice Son, and The Slave and Son (Matthew 21:28-32;
    John 5:19-20a; John 3:35)

    The Lost Coin (Luke 15:8-10)

    The Lost Sheep (Matthew 28:12-14; Luke 15:4-7)

    The Shepherd, the Thief, and the Doorkeeper (John 10:1-18)

    The Doctor and the Sick (Matthew 9:12; Mark 2:17; Luke 5: 31 f.)

    The Great Assize or The Sheep and the Goats (Matthew 25:31-46)

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  13. The Hassidim movement,hassidim means “pious ones” began in 18th century Ukraine,by Israel ben Eliezer(1700-1750).

    He emphasized emotion and was called the Baal Shem Tov(Master of the Good Name).The Hassidic rabbis also told many parables,it is a Jewish custom.

    There is a book in Amazon called “The Hasidic Parable: An Anthology with Commentary”(2001)

    by Rabbi Aryeh Wineman (220 pages,so it is A LOT of parables)

    https://www.amazon.com/Hasidic-Parable-Anthology-Commentary/dp/0827607075

    It is described as:

    “The teachers of Hasidism gave new life to the literary tradition of parable, a story that teaches a spiritual or moral truth. In The Hasidic Parable, acclaimed author Aryeh Wineman takes readers through the great works of the hasidic storytellers. Telling parables, explains Rabbi Wineman, was a strategy that the hasidic masters used to foster a radical shift in thinking about God, the world, and the values and norms of religious life.

    Although these parables date back 200 years or more, they deal with moral and religious themes and issues still relevant today. Each is accompanied by notes and commentary by the author that illuminate their ideological significance and their historical roots and background.

    These parables have been culled from classical hasidic homiletic texts, chosen because of their literary qualities, their explanation of key concepts in the hasidic world-view, and also because of what they say to us about the conflicts and tensions accompanying Hasidism’s emergence and growth.”

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  14. If that were not enough,there is a Catholic priest,Joseph Girzone,who wrote novels about Jesus coming back incognito

    to a little American town,working there as a carpenter,and doing miracles,and he says his name is Joshua.

    Jesus’ real name was Yeshua,Aramaic for the Hebrew Joshua.

    One of Girzones’s books is “The Parables of Joshua”(2002),where a 21st century Jesus tells new parables.

    Joshua/Jesus’ new parables talk of:

    homosexuality, corrupt clergy, materialism, women’s roles in the Church, capital punishment,

    feelings of inadequacy and the censorship of theologians, racism,movie violence .

    There is the “Parable of the Self-Righteous Man,” in which Girzone tackles our culture’s predilection for ,b>do-it-yourself religion and insists, “You cannot become truly holy all by yourself. Holiness is love. It is knowing and loving God and his creatures.”

    In the “Parable of the Ark,” the Church is compared to Noah’s Ark,it is often unpleasant, but still the only way out of the storm.

    “The Parable of the Beautiful Garden” tells us that pollution is bad, while “The Parable of the Precious Seed” is anti-abortion.

    “The Parable of the Criminal and the Righteous Politician” is an appeal to ban executions.

    Many of Girzone’s parables treat hypocrisy: “The Parable of the Unworthy Shepherd” and “The Terrorist and the Unwed Mother.”

    In “The Parable of the Faithful Nonbeliever,” a person who has had a good life, but did not have faith in God will, nevertheless, receive a heavenly reward.

    In “The Parable of the Two Brothers,” a man who lived a selfish life that was of little value to God goes to heaven because of his brother’s earnest prayers.

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