But do these palestinian christians take photographs of themselves holding the disembodied head of some disbeliever while they are saying “Allahu Akbar”?
Which highlights the fallacy of equivocation at work here.
The Christian LRA rebels step up attacks, abduct children in C.Africa: UN. Brief statement on what the LRA do by Radio Vaticana:
“The Lord’s Resistance Army rebels, who mutilate civilians and kidnap children to use as fighters and sex slaves, stepped-up attacks and abductions in the Central African Republic during the first three months of this year, the United Nations said on Wednesday.” –
“I’m still waiting for an apology for the atrocities your Russian brethren are committing in Syria.”
Can you show where Russia claims to be fighting to establish a state based on christian doctrines?
Plus, they are helping muslims…oh wait, I forgot, the Alawites are not true muslims and are thus apostatized and deserve to die. My bad. In fact, the reason that the alawites are fighting with such ferocity is because they know that if they are defeated, there will be a mass slaughter by your sunni brethren.
What is your point? No one has any idea what exactly the LRA are fighting for, and neither are their ideology nor their beliefs fully established. You guys are getting desperate.
You still have to explain how Russia’s actions in Syria set out to establish the primacy of christianity. They are supporting a muslim, not a christian, regime.
Getting back to the original post “Did You know?” and what the Archbishop says.
“Did you know?” – yes, I actually knew that. I have had interaction with Palestinian, Lebanese, and Egyptian Christians years ago – their everyday language is Arabic. (since 1983)
Arabic slowly became the language of the area after the Muslim Arabs of Arabia conquered the whole area. (after the 2nd Caliph, Omar Ibn Al Khattab’s aggressive warfare from 636 AD onward)
Originally, before Omar’s wars; the main languages were Greek and Syriac (Aramaic). Aramaic/Syriac still survives in very rural areas; but most cities became Arabized over centuries of waves of Arab Muslim invasions in aggressive warfare; and then the Dhimmi and Jiziye policies slowly wore down the Christians and many either immigrated to other areas or became Muslims because of social and economic reasons.
You can see the Archbishop’s name is very Greek.
North Africans speak dialects of Arabic that are mixtures from their ancient languages of Berber dialects. Some Latin words also survive in everyday life from certain areas, even in Palestinian Arabic. Arabic has about 5 major dialects – 1. Egyptian, 2. Arabian/Gulf Arabic, 3. Levant Arabic, 4. North African Derije, and 5. Iraqi Arabic. Even those also have subsets of dialects.
The Coptic language of Egypt is a dead language (like Latin, used in rituals and scholarly material related to the history of the Coptic Church and their theological works and creeds, etc., but not everyday life anymore); and the Coptic Christians speak Arabic also.
“since 1983” means since the time I started reaching out to Muslims and learning about their culture. I met many Arabs from many Arabic speaking countries and they told me about the different dialects, etc. With that, I also met many Christians from the Coptic and “Rum” churches (means Byzantine Orthodox Churches that still survive in the Levant areas.).
LOL! Fido tries desperately to deny the religious war that that the LRA is fighting. It just goes to show how deceptive this missionary dog of hell is. The LRA is fighting to establish Biblibal law. They have said that before. And it is not the only Christian terrorist group. Here is a list of others for you enjoyment:
Imbonerakure youth group from the country of Burundi, who defend Christian president Pierre Nkurunziza, the group have been labelled as terrorists because of the indiscriminate killing of innocent people. Imbonerakure, is active group formed in 2010. Human Rights Watch states:
“Members of the imbonerakure—the youth league of the ruling National Council for the Defense of Democracy-Forces for the Defense of Democracy (CNDD-FDD)—committed acts of violence, including killings, beatings, rape, threats, and extortion against their perceived opponents and other Burundians.”
“Forcibly converted to Christianity, hung by the wrists from a ceiling fan, starved for days and beaten mercilessly for failing to recite Bible passages — this is what a nine-year-old boy said he had to endure at an illegal shelter.”
You said;
Arabic slowly became the language of the area after the Muslim Arabs of Arabia conquered the whole area. (after the 2nd Caliph, Omar Ibn Al Khattab’s aggressive warfare from 636 AD onward)
Originally, before Omar’s wars; the main languages were Greek and Syriac (Aramaic). Aramaic/Syriac still survives in very rural areas; but most cities became Arabized over centuries of waves of Arab Muslim invasions in aggressive warfare; and then the Dhimmi and Jiziye policies slowly wore down the Christians and many either immigrated to other areas or became Muslims because of social and economic reasons.
I say;
Jews will tell you that under Islamic rule they have more money than some Muslims and Christians will tell you tell you the same. So, to continue to peddle lies by you with regards to people converting to Islam at that time because of economic reason is a lie Jesus Christ will not be happy with especially you who have the Holy Spirit in you. I corrected you over and over but you will keep bringing it. There are Muslim poor and there is no guarantee when you convert to Islam you will be rich.
I know Christians who preach that when one converts to Christianity they will be rich. Muslims do not do that because it is a lie. Only Allah gives riches to whomever He pleases. Ken, there are more Christians and Jews In the Muslim Majority countries and when you visited Iran you saw a lot of Jews there. Why did they not convert to Islam? because of economic reasons? Are those Jews and Christians not rich? from centuries till today?
Greek is never the language of the middle East but Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic and Arabic was there for centuries and not that it came at Umars time.
You did not mention the Crusader Christians killing Jews and Arabs before Muslims arrived to set the inhabitants free.
First Crusade
———————-
During the crusade, knights, peasants and serfs from many regions of Western Europe travelled over land and by sea, first to Constantinople and then on towards Jerusalem. The Crusaders arrived at Jerusalem, launched an assault on the city, and captured it in July 1099, massacring many of the city’s Muslim and Jewish inhabitants. They also established the crusader states of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, the County of Tripoli, the Principality of Antioch, and the County of Edessa.
Donald Trum, Juliani. Newt Gingeritch Dr. Ben Carson Christian etc. inspired terrorist has short a Muslim Imam and his assistant and killed the Imam in New York and it is no news in the western media. Imagine if the was a person with a Muslim name killing someone. The whole world would have heard the news.
The police call it a hate crime. Imagine if Juliani, Newt, Carson were Muslims, they would have been arrested of killed.
“The LRA is fighting to establish Biblibal law. They have said that before. And it is not the only Christian terrorist group. Here is a list of others for you enjoyment:
Those groups,as far as I know,identify as Christian,part of their self-definition,and you could have added the Taiping(Supreme Peace) group,whose leader, a Chinese,
said he was Christian and in fact,the younger brother of Jesus.
He led a rebellion to overthrow the Chinese emperor,it lasted from 1850-64 and killed 20 million people.
So I have nothing against technically labeling them Christian since in fact that is what they label themselves.But even the most skeptical NT scholar would say that the historical Jesus accepted the Golden Rule as the heart of his ethics.
It appears in the Sermon on the Mount:
Matthew 7:12
““So whatever you wish that others would do to you,
do also to them(the Golden Rule or Ethic of Reciprocity),
for this is the Law and the Prophets“.
Later,in the very same sermon,Jesus refers to groups like the LRA and Taiping:
Matthew 7:21-23
” “Not everyone who says to me,
‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but the one who does the will of my Father(like the Golden Rule which Jesus said was the Law and the Prophets) who is in heaven.
On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in YOUR NAME, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’”
But do these palestinian christians take photographs of themselves holding the disembodied head of some disbeliever while they are saying “Allahu Akbar”?
Which highlights the fallacy of equivocation at work here.
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I’m still waiting for an apology for the atrocities your Russian brethren are committing in Syria.
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The Christian LRA rebels step up attacks, abduct children in C.Africa: UN. Brief statement on what the LRA do by Radio Vaticana:
“The Lord’s Resistance Army rebels, who mutilate civilians and kidnap children to use as fighters and sex slaves, stepped-up attacks and abductions in the Central African Republic during the first three months of this year, the United Nations said on Wednesday.” –
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3643697/LRA-rebels-step-attacks-abduct-children-C-Africa-UN.html
And
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-centralafrica-rebels-lra-idUKKCN0UQ2A920160112
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D
No Palestinian Muslim ever ordered any one to be burned like Calvin did to Michael and said Jesus Christ said so.
No Palestinian bombed a United Nations compound full of children except evangelical Christians sponsored Zionists.
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Burhanuddin1
“I’m still waiting for an apology for the atrocities your Russian brethren are committing in Syria.”
Can you show where Russia claims to be fighting to establish a state based on christian doctrines?
Plus, they are helping muslims…oh wait, I forgot, the Alawites are not true muslims and are thus apostatized and deserve to die. My bad. In fact, the reason that the alawites are fighting with such ferocity is because they know that if they are defeated, there will be a mass slaughter by your sunni brethren.
Heads will roll, as they say. Allehu Akbar!!!
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Flying Pir/Intellect
What is your point? No one has any idea what exactly the LRA are fighting for, and neither are their ideology nor their beliefs fully established. You guys are getting desperate.
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D
No surprise you support terrorism.
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Burhan
You don’t disagree with my assessment then? The Alawites are apostates who deserve to die?
Plus, you still haven’t shown me where the Russians are fighting to establish a state based on christian doctrines.
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It’s time to for Christian to renounce their terrorists. Christians here should renounce themselves from “D”.
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Burhan
You still have to explain how Russia’s actions in Syria set out to establish the primacy of christianity. They are supporting a muslim, not a christian, regime.
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I have nothing to explain to you hate preacher.
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Should he be banned Burhanuddin?
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I don’t know. He will come back anyway to spread his venom.
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Didn’t Russia just put a heap of restrictive bans on Christians?
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@Flying Pir……..why pick the nastiest ‘adherents’ of a religion as examples to bolster your own agenda? You don’t see anyone else doing that, do you? 😛
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D,
More than 99% of the global Muslim never do that – only relatively insignificant fringes do that!
No text of Islam in context advocates that, as you may know.
So associating Islam or mainstream Muslims with that is not only fallacious but a heinous crime.
So it is fallacious to
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Getting back to the original post “Did You know?” and what the Archbishop says.
“Did you know?” – yes, I actually knew that. I have had interaction with Palestinian, Lebanese, and Egyptian Christians years ago – their everyday language is Arabic. (since 1983)
Arabic slowly became the language of the area after the Muslim Arabs of Arabia conquered the whole area. (after the 2nd Caliph, Omar Ibn Al Khattab’s aggressive warfare from 636 AD onward)
Originally, before Omar’s wars; the main languages were Greek and Syriac (Aramaic). Aramaic/Syriac still survives in very rural areas; but most cities became Arabized over centuries of waves of Arab Muslim invasions in aggressive warfare; and then the Dhimmi and Jiziye policies slowly wore down the Christians and many either immigrated to other areas or became Muslims because of social and economic reasons.
You can see the Archbishop’s name is very Greek.
North Africans speak dialects of Arabic that are mixtures from their ancient languages of Berber dialects. Some Latin words also survive in everyday life from certain areas, even in Palestinian Arabic. Arabic has about 5 major dialects – 1. Egyptian, 2. Arabian/Gulf Arabic, 3. Levant Arabic, 4. North African Derije, and 5. Iraqi Arabic. Even those also have subsets of dialects.
The Coptic language of Egypt is a dead language (like Latin, used in rituals and scholarly material related to the history of the Coptic Church and their theological works and creeds, etc., but not everyday life anymore); and the Coptic Christians speak Arabic also.
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“since 1983” means since the time I started reaching out to Muslims and learning about their culture. I met many Arabs from many Arabic speaking countries and they told me about the different dialects, etc. With that, I also met many Christians from the Coptic and “Rum” churches (means Byzantine Orthodox Churches that still survive in the Levant areas.).
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I’m sure we’re all VERY impressed…cough…
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LOL! Fido tries desperately to deny the religious war that that the LRA is fighting. It just goes to show how deceptive this missionary dog of hell is. The LRA is fighting to establish Biblibal law. They have said that before. And it is not the only Christian terrorist group. Here is a list of others for you enjoyment:
http://aattp.org/here-are-8-christian-terrorist-organizations-that-equal-isis/
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Thanks for the link
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“The only difference between Christian Terrorism and Islamic terrorism is that Christian Terrorism never makes the evening news.”
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Don’t forget about the Christian militia Anti-Balaka who force Muslims to accept Christianity.
“Christian Militias In CAR Have Carried Out Ethnic Cleansing Of The Muslim Population”
http://www.mintpressnews.com/christian-militias-in-the-car-give-muslims-a-choice-convert-or-die/208491/
And
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2015/01/un-muslims-ethnically-cleansed-car-2015196546788288.html
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Here is another group you have never heard of:
Imbonerakure youth group from the country of Burundi, who defend Christian president Pierre Nkurunziza, the group have been labelled as terrorists because of the indiscriminate killing of innocent people. Imbonerakure, is active group formed in 2010. Human Rights Watch states:
“Members of the imbonerakure—the youth league of the ruling National Council for the Defense of Democracy-Forces for the Defense of Democracy (CNDD-FDD)—committed acts of violence, including killings, beatings, rape, threats, and extortion against their perceived opponents and other Burundians.”
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/burundi
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“Forcibly converted to Christianity, hung by the wrists from a ceiling fan, starved for days and beaten mercilessly for failing to recite Bible passages — this is what a nine-year-old boy said he had to endure at an illegal shelter.”
http://www.mintpressnews.com/shelter-forcibly-converted-children-to-christianity-raided-by-police/212580/
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Terrorists You Don’t Hear About In The Media
https://discover-the-truth.com/news/
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“Christian Militia Rape And Kill Muslim Children In Central African Republic”
https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/04/22/central-african-republic-muslims-held-captive-raped
And
http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/anti-balaka-christian-extremism-terrorism-central-african-republic-car-africa-mass-muslim-islam-execution-behead-murder-mass-grave-genocide-uncensored-youtube/
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“American Pastor Who Helped Uganda Create ‘Kill The Gays’ Law Will Be Tried For Crimes Against Humanity”
http://addictinginfo.org/2014/12/08/american-pastor-who-helped-uganda-create-kill-the-gays-law-will-be-tried-for-crimes-against-humanity/
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Ken Temple
You said;
Arabic slowly became the language of the area after the Muslim Arabs of Arabia conquered the whole area. (after the 2nd Caliph, Omar Ibn Al Khattab’s aggressive warfare from 636 AD onward)
Originally, before Omar’s wars; the main languages were Greek and Syriac (Aramaic). Aramaic/Syriac still survives in very rural areas; but most cities became Arabized over centuries of waves of Arab Muslim invasions in aggressive warfare; and then the Dhimmi and Jiziye policies slowly wore down the Christians and many either immigrated to other areas or became Muslims because of social and economic reasons.
I say;
Jews will tell you that under Islamic rule they have more money than some Muslims and Christians will tell you tell you the same. So, to continue to peddle lies by you with regards to people converting to Islam at that time because of economic reason is a lie Jesus Christ will not be happy with especially you who have the Holy Spirit in you. I corrected you over and over but you will keep bringing it. There are Muslim poor and there is no guarantee when you convert to Islam you will be rich.
I know Christians who preach that when one converts to Christianity they will be rich. Muslims do not do that because it is a lie. Only Allah gives riches to whomever He pleases. Ken, there are more Christians and Jews In the Muslim Majority countries and when you visited Iran you saw a lot of Jews there. Why did they not convert to Islam? because of economic reasons? Are those Jews and Christians not rich? from centuries till today?
Greek is never the language of the middle East but Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic and Arabic was there for centuries and not that it came at Umars time.
You did not mention the Crusader Christians killing Jews and Arabs before Muslims arrived to set the inhabitants free.
First Crusade
———————-
During the crusade, knights, peasants and serfs from many regions of Western Europe travelled over land and by sea, first to Constantinople and then on towards Jerusalem. The Crusaders arrived at Jerusalem, launched an assault on the city, and captured it in July 1099, massacring many of the city’s Muslim and Jewish inhabitants. They also established the crusader states of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, the County of Tripoli, the Principality of Antioch, and the County of Edessa.
———————-
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade
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Wow, those are shocking examples of the brutality of Christian terrorists. Thanks for posting, brother Kaleef.
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Donald Trum, Juliani. Newt Gingeritch Dr. Ben Carson Christian etc. inspired terrorist has short a Muslim Imam and his assistant and killed the Imam in New York and it is no news in the western media. Imagine if the was a person with a Muslim name killing someone. The whole world would have heard the news.
The police call it a hate crime. Imagine if Juliani, Newt, Carson were Muslims, they would have been arrested of killed.
Thanks.
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Faiz gave the following information:
“The LRA is fighting to establish Biblibal law. They have said that before. And it is not the only Christian terrorist group. Here is a list of others for you enjoyment:
http://aattp.org/here-are-8-christian-terrorist-organizations-that-equal-isis/”
Those groups,as far as I know,identify as Christian,part of their self-definition,and you could have added the Taiping(Supreme Peace) group,whose leader, a Chinese,
said he was Christian and in fact,the younger brother of Jesus.
He led a rebellion to overthrow the Chinese emperor,it lasted from 1850-64 and killed 20 million people.
So I have nothing against technically labeling them Christian since in fact that is what they label themselves.But even the most skeptical NT scholar would say that the historical Jesus accepted the Golden Rule as the heart of his ethics.
It appears in the Sermon on the Mount:
Matthew 7:12
““So whatever you wish that others would do to you,
do also to them(the Golden Rule or Ethic of Reciprocity),
for this is the Law and the Prophets“.
Later,in the very same sermon,Jesus refers to groups like the LRA and Taiping:
Matthew 7:21-23
” “Not everyone who says to me,
‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven,
but the one who does the will of my Father(like the Golden Rule which Jesus said was the Law and the Prophets) who is in heaven.
On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in YOUR NAME, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’”
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