‘Is JESUS GOD? The Bible Says NO’

An impressive new video asking some good questions: Just who is Jesus? What is his nature? God, man or both? This video examines some reasons from the Bible why Jesus cannot be God.



Categories: Bible, Christianity, God, Islam

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  1. Scriptyre says when you seen me you have seen the Father for we are one. The trinity is something man can’t understand. But God’s word speaks of them right at the very beginning of Genesis

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  2. Desiray,
    Your comment was addressed in the post on this blog entitled, “Review of Chapter 1 in Josh McDowell’s, More than a Carpenter” In that review Kermit Zarley wrote the following:

    “On pp. 16-17, McDowell quote Jesus saying, “I and the Father are one” (John 10.30). Josh then offers the typical fare of traditionalists about this saying by arguing that it means, “one in ‘essence or nature.’” He adds, “Jesus continually spoke of himself as one in essence and nature with God.” He then cites Jesus’ sayings in John 5.23; 8.19; 12.45; 15.23. He concludes from these, “Jesus looked at himself as being more than just a man; rather, he was equal with God.” On the contrary, these sayings of Jesus merely indicate his honor of being God’s agent par excellence. Jesus’ divine agency—being sent by God—is a primary theme in the Gospel of John, and traditionalists have confounded it by asserting it means that Jesus is God.”

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    • “I and the Father are one” (John 10.30) John 5.23; 8.19; 12.45; 15.23.

      What He said in those verses, and everything else He said and did, make clear Jesus knew He was God’s son. Try an experiment: see what happens when you put His words in the mouth of someone else.

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    • His brethren knew exactly about Whom he was referring. They wanted to kill Him for using the language you dismiss.

      Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” “Truly, truly, I tell you, Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” At this, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus hid Himself and slipped away from the temple area

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  3. Desiray,
    The video also clearly states that “the co-equality of the persons is a central pillar” of the doctrine of the Trinity. Since, Jesus did not know the hour it demonstrates that he is not at co-equal with any part of a Trinitarian Godhead, otherwise he would have had shared in divine knowledge. Review the story of the fig tree in the video.

    Only God is God and he is absolute in his Oneness.

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    • Co-equal but with different roles. For example, The Father didn’t take on the form of a man and die a criminal’s death. That was the mission of His only begotten Son. Debates about the exact nature of His essence have gone on for thousands of years. Various councils met and worked to solve some of the inherent mysteries of Christianity. They did a fairly good job. Attempting to comprehend fully everything about GOD is a worthwhile pursuit, but it isn’t likely finite mortals will ever achieve that goal. And that’s okay, if we have love in our hearts, for GOD and others, we’ve fulfilled His commands for us.

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    • And “his commands for us” include obeying the Jewish law:

      “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.”

      This teaching would have horrified St Paul who taught that the law had been abolished in Ephesians 2:15.

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    • “This teaching would have horrified St Paul who taught that the law had been abolished in Ephesians 2:15.”……….Makes me wonder if Paul ever even read Matthew 5?

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    • Obviously he had not read it – the gospel was written long after his death

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    • This beggars belief
      New Living Translation
      14For Christ himself has brought peace to us. He united Jews and Gentiles into one people when, in his own body on the cross, he broke down the wall of hostility that separated us. 15He did this by ending the system of law with its commandments and regulations. He made peace between Jews and Gentiles by creating in himself one new people from the two groups. 16Together as one body, Christ reconciled both groups to God by means of his death on the cross, and our hostility toward each other was put to death.

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  4. He chose to limit his knowledge, just like He withdrew his ability to be omnipresent while He walked among us, ever so briefly thousands of years ago. Jesus said and did what no other man has ever said and done. The key question isn’t, Is he God? The crucial question is, What will you do about and with Him?

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  5. The entire Law is fulfilled in a single decree: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    • And Jesus said “his commands for us” include obeying the Jewish law:

      “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.”

      This teaching would have horrified St Paul who taught that the law had been abolished in Ephesians 2:15.

      You ignore all this!

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    • You forgot the most important bit.

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  6. Jesus replied, “Did I not tell you that if you believed, you would see the glory of God.” So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me. I knew that You always hear Me, but I say this for the benefit of the people standing here, so they may believe that You sent Me.”…

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  7. ignore the entire law? no. but live it, the entire law, by loving Him and others as He has loved us. That is the whole law.

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  8. There is nothing worthy of worship except the Creator, God Almighty; the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad.

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  9. To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure.

    About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

    “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

    The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”

    This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.

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  10. As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. Suddenly the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him. And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”

    do you have a dad?

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  11. When they saw Him, they worshiped Him, but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,…

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  12. All things have been handed over to me by my Father

    Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father.

    Then they asked him, “Where is your father?” “You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”

    “I am One who testifies about Myself, and the Father who sent Me also testifies about Me.”

    Then Jesus, still teaching in the temple courts, cried out, “You know Me, and you know where I am from. I have not come on My own accord, but He who sent Me is true. You do not know Him,

    “You do not know Him, but I know Him. If I said I did not know Him, I would be a liar like you. But I do know Him, and I keep His word.”

    “If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”

    Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

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  13. given in the sense of a formal acknowledgement

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  14. So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me. He who sent Me is with Me. He has not left Me alone, because I always do what pleases Him.” As Jesus spoke these things, many believed in Him.…

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  15. So they said to him “Who are you? We need an answer for those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet: “I am a voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’” “Why then do you baptize, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet?”…“I baptize with water,” John replied, “but among you stands One you do not know. He is the One who comes after me, the straps of whose sandals” I am not worthy to untie. All this happened at Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.…

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  16. Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

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  17. “You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” false prophecy

    Exact opposite. A divine promise sworn to, signed for, and sealed in the blood of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Glory

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  18. FOR YOU

    When they punched Him in His face over and over and pulled His beard out and whipped Him with a cat o’ nine tails, and spit on him and jammed a thorny head piece down over His skull and crucified Him, you’re damn right it was barbaric.

    “Scourging, called verberatio by the Romans, was possibly the worst kind of flogging administered by ancient courts. While the Jews administered whippings in the synagogues for certain offenses, these were mild in comparison to scourging. Scourging was not normally a form of execution, but it certainly was brutal enough to be fatal in many cases. A person certainly could be beaten to death by the scourge if that was desired. Its purpose was not only to cause great pain, but to humiliate as well. To scourge a man was to beat him worse than one would beat a stupid animal. It was belittling, debasing, and demeaning. It was considered such a degrading form of punishment that, according to the Porcian (248 B.C.) and Sempronian (123 B.C.) laws, Roman citizens were exempt from it. It was, therefore, the punishment appropriate only for slaves and non-Romans, those who were viewed as the lesser elements in Roman society. To make it as humiliating as possible, scourging was carried out in public.

    The instrument used to deliver this form of punishment was called in Latin a flagellum or a flagrum. This was much different from the bull whip that is more common in our culture. It was instead more like the old British cat o’ nine tails, except that the flagellum was not designed merely to bruise or leave welts on the victim. The flagellum was a whip with several (at least three) thongs or strands, each perhaps as much as three feet long, and the

    strands were weighted with lead balls or pieces of bone. This instrument was designed to lacerate.

    The weighed thongs struck the skin so violently that it broke open. The church historian Eusebius of Caesarea recounts with vivid, horrible detail a scene of scourging. He says, “For they say that the bystanders were struck with amazement when they saw them lacerated with scourges even to the innermost veins and arteries, so that the hidden inward parts of the body, both their bowels and their members, were exposed to view” (Ecclesiastical History, Book 4, chap. 15).

    Dave McClister

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    • “When they punched Him in His face over and over and pulled His beard out and whipped Him with a cat o’ nine tails, and spit on him and jammed a thorny head piece down over His skull and crucified Him”.
      …………….AFTER SUCH A BEATING, EVEN HIS OWN MOTHER DIDN’T RECOGNISE HIM?

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    • Musa,
      Good point…….enter theory of substitution.

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  19. Hi Paul
    If God is merciful and forgiving why do Islamic countries amongst have the death penalty? Why are these people not just forgiven?

    God the Father called Jesus God…

    Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

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    • some crimes are punishable by death as required by God. On the day of judgement God may chose to forgive such people and admit them to paradise.

      How is it just of God to kill an innocent human being to forgive a guilty person’s sins?

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    • Hi Paul

      Where is the punishment of death mentioned in the Koran?

      If you are referring to Jesus doesn’t the Koran say he didn’t die?

      According to your own sources didn’t an INNOCENT person die on the cross in the place of Jesus?

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    • There are several verses that mention the death penalty. You can google them.

      The Quran says that the Jew did not kill him though it appears that they did.

      I know of no authentic reports that claim another person died in the place of Jesus.

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    • Hi Paul
      Thei issue of adultery is what I didn’t mention previously.

      Where is the punishment of death for adultery mentioned in the Koran?

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    • Is this a sincere question? If so please google it.

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    • Hi Paul
      You are very knowledgable and all I’m asking for a verse(s) which states adulterers receives the death penalty for that sin, and yes the question is genuine and I think deserves an answer as I am in contact with people in Nigeria where this is happening.

      In violation of the country’s constitution, and of the UN Convention Against Torture which the federal government signed in 2001-JUN, some northern Nigerian courts have imposed beheadings, stoning and amputations for what are considered relatively minor crimes elsewhere in the world. Executions have been occasionally performed as punishment for behavior that is not even considered criminal in other jurisdictions.

      Massoud Shadjareh, of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, opposes stoning sentences. He urges other Muslim leaders to speak out against them. Otherwise, he fears that what he calls an inhumane brand of Islamic law will take root in Nigeria. Shadjareh said:
      “Shariah has been translated to be harsh, extreme treatment — it isn’t.” He argues that amputations and stonings are supposed to be used only as a last resort, and only within those Islamic societies that have eliminated poverty and corruption. Neither condition has yet been achieved, either in Nigeria or in other countries where stoning is practiced. 13

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    • But I am not the village encyclopaedia. For basic questions like that you can do your own research.

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  20. “Is it really like a hollywood fiction movie scene? Music?” Burhanuddin1

    No. Not like a movie or a documentary. But, if you will go there, and get very still, and open your heart, then see what you observe. No fanfare or music. Just the opposite. There’s a hallowed hush, an uneasy quiet, an eerie sense that everything, that all creation is mourning and waiting. Waiting without hope that there might be the slightest stirring, the most subtle movement, the faintest sign, of life.

    And I saw a bump in his wrist. And another one. And another

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  21. “Peter went up on the roof to pray?”………..Why? Christians say they pray constantly, without need to ‘go anywhere’.

    If you want to go to the park to pray, that’s fine, too. Or, you can pray as you drive or wait in line. Pete didn’t have to go on the roof to have his prayers heard. He simply wanted to.

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  22. @Hank……….before abraham was, I AM…………correction……….before abraham was, YHWH
    MUSA

    אהיה אשר הנו

    באמת, באמת, אני אומר לך, ישוע מצהיר,” בטרם היות אברהם, אני! ”

    “Amen, amen dico vobis, quia Iesus:« Antequam Abraham fieret, ego sum

    «Αληθινά, αληθινά, μπορώ να σας πω, ο Ιησούς δήλωσε,” πριν γεννηθεί ο Αβραάμ, είμαι! ”

    “الحق الحق أقول لكم، أعلن يسوع،” قبل أن يكون إبراهيم أنا! “

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  23. [In Islam God does not require a human sacrifice to forgive sins. God is merciful and forgiving.]*

    [Yet Jesus prayed to and worshiped his God.]**

    [Then why did Jesus say he had a God?] *** pw

    *In Christianity, God requires a perfect sacrifice, one who was without a stain or blemish, whose shed blood would pay for sin and redeem those without hope, lost and dead in sin.

    **He loved His FatherGod very much. and prayed to Him saying, I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one— I in them and You in Me — that they may be perfectly united, so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me. Father, I want those You have given Me to be with Me where I am, that they may see the glory You gave Me because You loved Me before the foundation of the world.…

    *** Because He believed in, talked to, and worshiped His FatherGod– so that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
    That speaks of an intimacy with the Creator people the world over long to experience; which, as we come to understand, nothing else on earth or in the heavens can replicate. No drug, no relationship, no victory, no accomplishment, no amount of money or prestige or power can reach and soothe that longing for Him we have, the longing that we are! to be deeply engaged in loving interaction with our God

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  24. Dr. White fulled refuted this video in the last part of this DL program.

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  25. that makes no sense; but then that doesn’t matter? MUSA

    The various original languages lead me to believe that “I AM THAT I AM” is accurate.

    @Hank……….before abraham was, I AM…………correction……….before abraham was, YHWH
    MUSA

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  26. Paul, thanks for posting.

    The verse from James is very interesting that says that God does not change.

    Since James was brother of Jesus, he would have not stated that or at least substantially qualified that statement if he was a trinitarian of binitarian.

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  27. “Hank, you are in the wrong movie, I mean thread. Take it as the most subtle hint, the faintest sign from above.” Burhanuddin1

    If you can become very, very quiet, deep in your soul, and think about Gethsemane and let your mind relax, you may hear a very faint sound. listen carefully. you too may hear the screams of a woman in terrible distress. Her heart is broken. See if you can locate her as you drift back through the days weeks and years that flew by. She’s kneeling in mud. Through the sort of damp, red-gray gloom, you can sense that she’s pleading. Listen closer. She’s pleading for her son’s life and no one is there to help her. He’s been crucified and He’s losing consciousness, dying slowly just a few feet away. She knows He’s innocent. He never hurt anyone. He was a good boy. Her baby boy. She wants Him to come down. If you look real closely, you’ll see her reflection in His eye. Now you realize He’s tortured by her pain. He’s not coming down. He could come down, but He’s going to let His mother’s agony be complete

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  28. Indeed, an embarrassing video, and very exposing on the horrendous lack of research committed to by the uploader. I’ve written a piece on this, establishing beyond a conceivable doubt that Jesus did in fact claim to be God.

    https://faithfulphilosophy.wordpress.com/2016/10/09/jesus-claimed-to-be-god/

    This link addresses almost all the rubbish in the video. The reason God took on a man-nature, was not because He was “missing something”, LOL. It was in order to be able to die for the sins of humanity, for God cannot die.

    The ignorance of the uploader on God changing is ridiculous. He answers his own accusations, and then dismisses these responses as “philosophical wordplay”, LOL.

    Again, for the fig tree, this twat answers his own objection, pointing out it was because Jesus was operating through the human nature. The human nature did not override the divine one, Jesus simply operated through it (because if you operate through the divine nature of course, you can’t die for anyone’s sins).

    The entire video is inconsequential, hardly worth responding to. I’ve already shown in the blog I linked that the Holy Bible is utterly clear when it comes to Jesus being God. There simply is no response.

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  29. Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him (Matt. 28:9). Only God is worthy to be worshipped. Thus, Jesus is God.

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    • Context:

      ‘When they saw him, they worshipped him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and said to them, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.’

      Some of the disciples doubted Jesus’ resurrection. Why?

      God does not change and has always possessed authority and power. God shared it with Jesus therefore Jesus is not God.

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    • Many people in this world doubt the existence of God and the resurrection of Jesus. Does that therefore validate the non-existence of God or the deity of Christ? No, it doesn’t. Humans are fallible.

      If Jesus didn’t claim to be God, why did he fail to rebuke his disciples? He could have said to them: “Do not worship me. I am merely a man. Worship God.” But you won’t find that in Scripture. In fact, He was crucified for blaspheming because the Pharisees accused Him of equaling himself with God.”

      He said the familiar 7 “I Am” statements, referring back to Yahweh in the Old Testament, who was and is the name of God. Jesus said the “Father and I are one. If you’ve seen me, you have seen the Father.” He claimed to be born before Abraham was alive. In Colossians, Paul writes that in Jesus dwelt the “fullness of deity.” Doubting Thomas, after touching the hands of the risen Christ announced. “My Lord and my God.” This is just the beginning. The entire OT foreshadowed the Lamb of God, the one who would take away the sins of the world.

      This is just the beginning of many more arguments concerning the deity of Christ. Feel free to response in as much detail as possible. Have a good day Paul!

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    • With taking the cultural context in account, “prostrating” is just an expression of greeting of that time. It doesn’t mean that Jesus is God.
      You can read your bible to find that happened to David and Daniel.
      In Quran, that happened to Joesph and Adam.

      Could you deal with some serious questions given in this video?

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  30. Abdullah, thanks for your response. Since you mentioned Daniel, I want to show you directly from Scripture that he honored the king, but he never “prostrated” to worship the King. In fact, the whole purpose of the book of Daniel was to reveal his unwavering commitment to God. In Daniel 6, the Satraps tricked King Darius into writing a decree that would enforce Daniel to pray to King Darius.

    Here it is: So these administrators and satraps went as a group to the king and said: “May King Darius live forever! 7 The royal administrators, prefects, satraps, advisers and governors have all agreed that the king should issue an edict and enforce the decree that anyone who prays to any god or human being during the next thirty days, except to you, Your Majesty, shall be thrown into the lions’ den. 8 Now, Your Majesty, issue the decree and put it in writing so that it cannot be altered—in accordance with the law of the Medes and Persians, which cannot be repealed.” 9 So King Darius put the decree in writing.

    Of course, we know the end of the story. Daniel refused to worship anyone other than God. He respected the Kings, just like He did with Nebuchadnezzar and Darius, but he made it clear that honor and reverence is different than “paying homage or worshipping a mere man.”

    In the New Testament, there is a specific passage that demonstrates the Apostle Paul and Barnabas did not let anyone worship them. The passage is below:

    Acts 14:11When the crowds saw what Paul had done, they raised their voice, saying in the Lycaonian language, “The gods have become like men and have come down to us.” 12And they began calling Barnabas, Zeus, and Paul, Hermes, because he was the chief speaker. 13The priest of Zeus, whose temple was just outside the city, brought oxen and garlands to the gates, and wanted to offer sacrifice with the crowds. 14But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out 15and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God.”

    Paul rebuked his followers for worshipping him as a god. If Paul adamantly followed Jesus, and Jesus never rebuked people for worshipping Him (Matt 2:11; Matthew 21:9, Luke 24:10; Jn. 12:13), then how could you appeal to “cultural context.” Jesus was both fully God and fully man. He was the only one worthy to die for the sins of the world. God had to become a human so He could be the only substitute for our sins. He is the perfect sacrifice. Your works can’t save you, only the grace of God. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. Praise Jesus, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.

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  31. Years ago at a concert in the desert Leon Russell was performing and between songs he said, “Barry Goldwater never walked on water.” I wondered why in the world he would make a statement like that? The air was filled with pot smoke and the crowd was dancing, feeling no pain and out of the blue he makes a statement like that.

    Little things like that caused me to think. I had heard of Jesus and that a claim was made that He had walked on water, but it was a Santa Claus story, nothing of a serious nature at all. What kind of nut would believe in or create a silly tale like that? But why would Leon Russell bother to refer to a guy like that? Did he think Jesus had once really lived?

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    • Seems like Peter may have been a real person, too. Why would anyone make up such a crazy, far fetched, fairy tale? If they wanted to be taken seriously, why throw in bizarre, miraculous kinds of things? Why try to get people to believe nonsense like that? Why not make the story more credible?

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    • you think Peter might not have existed?

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    • “you think Peter might not have existed?” PW

      Sorry Paul. I missed your question til now.

      I was reflecting on my initial thoughts on Christ as a young man. I knew that some religious people pretended that he once existed, like Santa Claus existed when we were kids. Then, I heard references to him by Ian Anderson (Tull) and Leon Russell as though they assumed he had been a real person and I didn’t understand why they did that. And if he had once existed perhaps the stories about him were true including the account of Peter walking on water for a few moments.

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    • It’s Official! Hank’s evidence for the truth of Christianity is based on a single off the cuff remark he heard Leon Russle and Jethrro Tull make at a concert he attended in the seventies (Most likely while high on the Hash)!! This explains everything!

      Hank, I would place too much trust in some burnt out, dope smoking, has been rock stars.

      You will only find the pure truth in Islam.

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    • Correction:
      Hank, I would NOT place too much trust in some burnt out, dope smoking, has been rock stars.

      You Said:
      “Why would anyone make up such a crazy, far fetched, fairy tale? If they wanted to be taken seriously, why throw in bizarre, miraculous kinds of things? Why try to get people to believe nonsense like that? Why not make the story more credible?”

      You answered your own questions, “to get people to believe.” The Biblical scriptures were addressed to an ancient people who believed in the supernatural phenomena, they not written to cater to a modern audience skeptical of such things as miracles.

      We can argue and debate whether or not Miracles happened, but I think that is really secondary to the main question which is related to the Salvific efficacy of the core theological teachings.

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  32. Jethro Tull – Hymn 43

    Our father high in heaven, smile down upon your son
    Who’s busy with his money games, his women and his gun
    Oh Jesus save me
    And the unsung Western hero, killed an Indian or three,
    And then he made his name in Hollywood
    To set the white man free
    Oh Jesus save me
    If Jesus saves, well He’d better save Himself
    From the gory glory seekers who use His name in death
    Oh Jesus save me
    If Jesus saves, well He’d better save Himself
    From the gory glory seekers who use His name in death
    Oh Jesus save me
    Well, I saw Him in the city and on the mountains of the moon
    His cross was rather bloody
    He could hardly roll His stone
    Oh Jesus save me

    Tull played this song like they actually were questioning God or Jesus Christ, as if they actually thought they were real. Tull expresses their anger at God and people for allowing His message to get blurred through the selfishness of human beings. Again, they were treating the subject material as if they actually thought there was a God and that Jesus once lived. I didn’t get it but I was fascinated that some cool people thought he existed.

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    • Hank,
      If you think Leon Russell and the Gospel of Jethro Tull are going to lead Muslims to Christianity, you are barking up the wrong tree. And your dating yourself old chap!! 🙂

      P.S. – A lot of “Cool People” believe in Prophet Muhammad and Islam!!!!

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    • i think God can use 2 and one half quadrillion things to reach us and I don’t give a rip what he decides is the best approach for us individually. Knowing him is what i care about; to be friends with him. to go to heaven and to avoid hell. i care about these things. insulting him and those who love him is old hat. no one in history stirs up more intense feelings than he does. It is as though the unseen spiritual world wakes up when his name is mentioned in the context of resurrection. People love to use his name to curse, to swear, to express outrage and to beg for help and mercy. Before seeing him for who he is, everything looks a certain way. After meeting him in person, everything appears different, in good ways. one sure way to know whether or not he is? notice the assault unleashed by hell.

      i know some cool people are Muslims, Ali, for one. Malcolm X i loved.

      Being hypercritical of Christ is typical. it is what we asked for and he predicted. you don’t think they liked him, do you? he done nothing, nothing, and they beat the hell out of him and strung him up naked. He never done nothing to nobody, as Bob Dylan might phrase it.

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  33. No he isnt, and it is very sad that the subject even has to be cleared up, especially amongst Christians.

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  34. Brilliant video and so clearly explained. I am a Christian and was only yesterday explaining to a fellow Christian how the Trinity is not possible. I do however believe Jesus is the son of God. But as you have clearly presented it is not possible for hi to be God at all.

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    • Thebibletales,
      You are correct that the Trinity is not possible. I hope the video helped you to explain this to your friend.

      I regard to Jesus being the Son of God, I think you may be interested in reading a book which address this very question, “How Jesus Became God, The Exaltation of a Preacher from Galilee” by Dr. Bart Ehrman. In that book he discusses how the Gospel story evolved over time, from Jesus being a man and preacher, to after his death being exalted to a man ADOPTED as the Son of God, and gradually exalted further until his followers finally raised his status to the pre-existing divine son of God, and how this was later conflated with the Trinitarian doctrine.

      So if you are talking about Jesus being the Divine pre-existing literal “Son of God” then that comes with theological problems and improbabilities as well as historical questions, versus referring to “Son of God” in a figurative sense, in the same way that we are all children of God, being created by the supreme divine being (who we Muslims call Allah).

      I highly recommend Ehrman’s book to you.

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    • Thank you for the book title I will endeavour to read and research this. I am fascinated by all religion and have too (just about!) begun to read the Quran to further my understanding. Glad I found your blog.

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