James White comment about br. Paul Williams, my response

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Quite recently a prominent trinitarian apologist James white made some comments about brother Paul “Bilal” Williams in  what appears to be an effort  to undermine br. Paul reputation.  There are a couple of negative points White made but here I just want to focus on the issue of Same of Sex Attraction (SSA) and what makes muslim a muslim.

White wrote:

‘I mean very obvious that he holds to a life-style view that is inconsistent with historic classical both Muslim and Christian understandings of human sexuality, lets put it that way.’

White comment again show his shallow comprehension on  the Islamic tradition. White does not have any appreciation of what SSA means as a cultural construct in Islamic tradition. White seems to equate SSA with homosexual acts such as sodomy which is a sin in Islam. SSA however does not imply any particular sexual intercourse  which might express such an orientation.  To ask what behaviour ( In Arabic, this concept of ‘same sex attraction’ is translated as al-mithliyya al-jinsiyya  المثلية الجنسية ) would be acceptable for a Muslim with SSA is a different question, to which there is a variety of opinions.

Br. Paul Williams has made it clear in numerous occasion that he consider  all sexual acts outside of heterosexual marriage are unlawful, therefore albeit  his admission that he has  attraction to other male in a exclusive way , this attraction is  independent of actual sexual acts.  Br. Paul  may feel such  orientation but he do not act upon it. So he accept such orientation as part of his personality and choose to repress it and remain chaste.

and Allah Said:

إِنَّ الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَالْمُسْلِمَاتِ وَالْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُؤْمِنَاتِ وَالْقَانِتِينَ وَالْقَانِتَاتِ وَالصَّادِقِينَ وَالصَّادِقَاتِ وَالصَّابِرِينَ وَالصَّابِرَاتِ وَالْخَاشِعِينَ وَالْخَاشِعَاتِ وَالْمُتَصَدِّقِينَ وَالْمُتَصَدِّقَاتِ وَالصَّائِمِينَ وَالصَّائِمَاتِ وَالْحَافِظِينَ فُرُوجَهُمْ وَالْحَافِظَاتِ وَالذَّاكِرِينَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا وَالذَّاكِرَاتِ أَعَدَّ اللَّهُ لَهُم مَّغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًا

Indeed, the Muslim men and Muslim women, the believing men and believing women, the obedient men and obedient women, the truthful men and truthful women, the patient men and patient women, the humble men and humble women, the charitable men and charitable women, the fasting men and fasting women, the men who guard their chastity and the women who do so, and the men who remember Allah often and the women who do so – for them Allah has prepared forgiveness and a great reward. [Q 33:35]

 

So, anyone who struggle to live with SSA yet choose to guard chastity with sincere intention may get forgiveness and great reward waiting for them.

I do not understand why White make that an issue?


 

In relation to this White also launch an attack on br.Paul “Islamness” and questioning muslims who look to him or read his blog, he said:

‘he is now back in some form of Islam and allowing his website to be used to attack Christians in unfair, denigrating and prejudicial ways. I remain confused as to why believing Muslims look to this man or read his materials given the above’

I do not know what White meant by “some form” of Islam br, Paul has. Islam , in case he did not know , Al Imam Al- Bukhari narrated in his sahih collection from Ibn Umar (رضى الله عنهما) that our holy Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said:

 بُنِيَ الإِسْلاَمُ عَلَى خَمْسٍ شَهَادَةِ أَنْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَأَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ، وَإِقَامِ الصَّلاَةِ، وَإِيتَاءِ الزَّكَاةِ، وَالْحَجِّ، وَصَوْمِ رَمَضَانَ ‏‏‏

Islam is based on (the following) five (principles): To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ). and to offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers and to pay charity  (i.e. obligatory charity) and (to perform) Hajj (i.e. Pilgrimage to Mecca) and to fast during the month of Ramadan.

 

If anyone has  freely chosen to live according to that principle that makes that person follow Islam, br. Paul is no exception.

The aqeedah عقيدة‎ ( the correct  belief) in tradition  Sunni Islam is defined based on the Shahih hadith as recorded by Muslim (no 8), Abu Dawud (no 4695), at-Tirmidzi (no 2610), an-Nasa-i (VIII/97), Ibnu Majah (no 63) as follow:

أَنْ تُؤْمِنَ بِاللَّهِ وَمَلاَئِكَتِهِ وَكُتُبِهِ وَرُسُلِهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَتُؤْمِنَ بِالْقَدَرِ خَيْرِهِ وَشَرِّهِ

That you affirm your faith in Allah, in His angels, in His Books, in His Apostles, in the Day of Judgment, and you affirm your faith in the Divine Decree about good and evil.

So again if anyone has  freely chosen to hold  firm conviction in his heart over those matters  that makes a person follower of Islam hence a believing muslim.

Now just because someone has became muslim and follow Islam does not mean he is perfect. No muslim is free from mistakes and limitation (In the Quran it is said that  man are created weak) only  Allah the most Holy who is perfect.  Me, br. Paul and every other muslim strive and struggle everyday to correct our mistakes and overcome our limitation in our humble quest to strive in Allahs path. At the end of the day it is Allah who has the authority to judge by His infinite Grace whether will be among the inhabitants of the eternal life in Paradise

In the sharh (explanation) of the aqeedah of sunni muslim (ahlussunah wal jama’ah) , laid down by early scholar of Islam such asmam Tahawi’s Al-Aqeedah At-Tahawiyah,  the position of someone who commit sin does not disqualify him being a muslim except  if he/she commit the act of worship to other than God almighty, such as worshipping His creation, Jesus the son of Mary . This is called  shirk شرك the worst and unforgivable kind of sin and those who commit it will go to hell.

 

إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَٰلِكَ لِمَن يَشَاءُ ۚ وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدِ افْتَرَىٰ إِثْمًا عَظِيمًا

Indeed, Allah does not forgive association [shirk] with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.[Q 4:48]

 

Not only believing muslims can read materials from fellow believing muslim, like br. Paul Williams, in this blog, but we should be grateful with the constant effort (Istiqaamah) he has put forth over the years  giving in da’wah to people the  great dangers of committing shirk ie worshiping Jesus instead of the God of Jesus.

Furthermore by looking to this blog  believing muslims should also benefit from br. Paul Williams knowledge as a former christian who are well read in the latest biblical/new testament scholarship especially in relation to his experience as once biblical inerrantist himself, a view  which most muslims take it for granted as not true (from the Qur’an)  but do not understand how is it exactly.

So I guess we have to disappoint you James, Muslims have absolutely no reason  to speak out against other fellow muslim br. Paul Williams. On the contrary we find him as a unique stature among muslim convert and those who involve in contemporary Islamic apologetics and we can view him as a source of sound theological and apologetic insight and information.

I pray that God Almighty continue to guide br. Paul Williams and makes it easy for him in   his da’wah effort: giving people access into the world of biblical scholarship, the  exaltation of Jesus, the trinity and other distorted doctrines about Jesus that can lead people into the hellfire.

 

 



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2 replies

  1. thank you for your kind words and encouragement Eric.

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  2. Dr. James White said;
    ‘he is now back in some form of Islam and allowing his website to be used to attack Christians in unfair, denigrating and prejudicial ways. I remain confused as to why believing Muslims look to this man or read his materials given the above’

    According to Dr. James White about Paul Williams and this blog.

    My reply to Dr. James White.

    Dr. White you not sincere.

    Why?

    This site is a critical thinking site that accepts criticism from any religion and especially Islam and Christianity, so that a lengthy brainstorming is followed between Christians and Muslims till the truth is made clear.

    To say this blog is used to attack Christianity is utterly disgusting and nonsense. There are so many Christians contributors here defending what is said about their religion and attacking Islam by saying the following on this blog;

    -“your prophet Mohammed had sex with a child”
    -“Islam is violent”
    -“Isis are the real Muslims”
    -“Islamic God is a monad”
    -“Islam is a false religion”
    -“The prophet copied from the infancy gospels which they borrowed from you Dr. White”
    It is your assertion for you do not have evidence the Quran or prophet Mohammed borrowed from the gospel of Thomas. You also said the Gospel of Thomas borrowed from the NT.
    You forgot the NT itself had to be borrowed from other stories and canonized by the Church Fathers?

    -“Your Muslim God is a deceiver”
    -“Islam is wrong”

    All the above and many more against Islam is allowed and permitted on this blog for further rigorous discussions for days or weeks or months till the truth is achieved. On the other hand man Jesus Christ as God is also discussed and exposed not by Muslims but by Christians as well.

    madmanna, a staunch Trinitarian, after engaging with us for years finally and totally agreed with us that, if God is 1 and only and has possessed His attributes, then no person can be God again except the only 1 God who can personally possess all His attributes. ANOTHER PERSON CANNOT POSSESS ALL GOD ATTRIBUTES.

    Ken Temple, another Christian friend commenter here on this blog and not Alpha and Omega blog but Paul Williams ¨blog agreed with me that the Son do not possess all the attributes of the Father because the Son is generated by the Father and the Father generates the Son.

    The Triune God or Trinitas Unitas are only limited to 3 persons according to Trinitarians, so the Son cannot generate another God and cannot generate the Father or the Son, so the Son who is also God cannot generate another God, but the Father is generating the Son.

    So, the Son do not possess all the attributes of God, if God is 1.

    Dr. James White, this blog is not attacking Christianity but is a site dedicated to truth and having frank discussions between Muslims and Christians and any one who want to contribute to use his brain instead of blind following a religion be it Islam, Christianity or any other religion.

    If I were you Dr. White, I will contribute here and defend Christianity rather than falsely and erroneously accusing this blog.

    If you feel your religion is right, come on contribute here and we will prove to you that your religion is man-made and not from God.

    Your dividing line is all about your wishful thinking because no one is allowed to challenge what you said, but anyone including you is allowed and is well come here on this blog to challenge what is said about Christianity and any religion.

    We are waiting for your response here for anyone to see, rather than dividing line where you falsely accuse Islam without anyone to challenge you.

    I do appreciate your fairness by rejecting other Christians unfair attack on Islam. May your God Jesus Christ bless you.

    Thanks.

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