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  1. References were posted for your consideration in response to your ludicrous and humorous presumption that “The hadith are even more man-made and redacted than the quran and cannot be trusted as historically accurate sources for the life of mohammed”… 😉

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  2. well now you have the references that refute your ludicrous and humorous presumption that “The hadith are even more man-made and redacted than the quran and cannot be trusted as historically accurate sources for the life of mohammed”..point D is that the hadith most certainly are trusted as historically accurate sources for the life of *Muhammad* as illustrated in the references you ignored!😉 … my point is to Muhammad, not Jesus darling!

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  3. D the quoted hadith proclaims Chistians certainly and historically did over praise Jesus and Jesus was the son of Mary!… what’s unhistoric about this hadith!? 😎

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  4. The reason why Muhammad didn’t need his followers to praise him is because he got all the praise he needed from his god!

    The Muslim sources teach that Allah himself is engaged in praising his prophet, something that he actually does before his heavenly host:

    The Command to say Salah upon the Prophet

    Al-Bukhari said: “Abu Al-`Aliyah said: ‘Allah’s Salah is HIS PRAISING HIM BEFORE THE ANGELS, and the Salah of the angels is their supplication.’” Ibn `Abbas said: “They send blessings.” Abu `Isa At-Tirmidhi said: “This was narrated from Sufyan Ath-Thawri and other scholars, who said: ‘The Salah of the Lord is mercy, and the Salah of the angels is their seeking forgiveness.’” There are Mutawatir Hadiths narrated from the Messenger of Allah commanding us to send blessings on him and how we should say Salah upon him. We will mention as many of them as we can, if Allah wills, and Allah is the One Whose help we seek… (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Q. 33:56; capital emphasis ours)

    So we see that Allah has nothing better to do than to praise Muhammad before his angels in heaven! So what was that about not over-praising Muhammad like the true believers praise the Lord Jesus, Muhammad’s God and Master?

    By golly, I think this calls for another article! 😉

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    • ‘over-praising’ in the hadith obviously refers to the illicit glorification of Jesus beyond his true status as an honoured prophet of God. Muslims are warned not to do the same to Muhammad. In my experience certain sufis do make this mistake so the warning is still relevant.

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    • Shamoun, don’t make me write an article embarrassing you and your babble :p

      God in the Bible demands his HANDS licked like a DOG. The word that is used for Licking hand is Proskuneo

      We will quote verses where God demands his hands Licked like a Dog. [Proskuneo]

      Matthew 4:10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship [proskuneo] the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”

      As you can see the word proskuneo is used, Jesus is telling satan to LICK God’s hands like a dog. I will use a Christian website to prove that the WORD proskuneo MEANS LICKING HAND like a Dog-

      Lexicon:

      Word Origin
      proskuneo from (4314) and a probable derivative of (2965) (meaning to kiss, LIKE A DOG LICKING a dog licking his master’s hand)

      Here is the website:

      http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/proskuneo.html

      Hebrews 1:6 New International Version (©1984)
      And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship [PROSKUNEO] him.”

      Again here is another verse where God is saying demanding that Jesus’s hands be licked like a DOG.

      There are a number of other verses where God is demanding people to LICK his hand like a DOG😉

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    • Let me muzzle Muhammad’s dog again and expose his boldfaced lie that the word proskyneo means to kiss, like Muhammad licks his master’s hand. The following excerpt is taken from my rebuttal to another deceitful dishonest stone kisser:

      (1) Ataie committed the same embarrassing blunder that another infamous Muhammadan apologist named Shibli Zaman did awhile back. Ataie claimed that the Greek word proskyneo is composed of two Greek words, pros (“toward”) and kyon (“dog”), and then likened it to dogs kissing their masters’ hands. Apart from this being a classic example of what is commonly known as an etymological or root fallacy, where a person erroneously assumes that the word is to be defined by, or is restricted to its root meaning, Ataie is simply mistaken about the word’s origin. Proskyneo DOES NOT come from kyon, but rather from the Greek word kus.

      Just as embarrassing is Ataie’s attempt to connect the word proskyneo with dogs kissing the hands of their masters, when there isn’t a single lexical source that we are aware of that defines it that way! Rather, the one concordance that does mention dogs says nothing about kissing the hands. Here is what it actually states:

      Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance

      worship.

      From pros and a probable derivative of kuon (meaning to kiss, like a dog LICKING his master’s hand); to fawn or crouch to, i.e. (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore) — worship. (Bible Hub)

      Notice that Strong’s mentions a dog licking his master’s hands, not kissing them, which makes absolute sense since dogs DON’T KISS but lick instead!

      With that said, does Ataie really want us to believe that when the NT writers describe people rendering proskyneo to Christ, what they really meant to convey was that these individuals were actually licking the Lord Jesus’ hands just like any good dog?

      This simply goes to show that Ataie does not know the Biblical languages as well as he thinks, and he should therefore refrain from pontificating on such matters lest he desires to further embarrass himself.

      For a more thorough refutation of this wicked liar make sure to read the following rebuttals:

      http://www.answeringislam.net/Responses/Zaman/etymology.htm

      http://www.answeringislam.net/Responses/Zaman/etymology_r1.htm

      So no, the word doesn’t mean to kiss someone like Muhammad used to lick and smooch his black stone god.

      Time for you to take a break from barking out the Quran and return to your dog house.

      Man it really must suck being a dishonest stone licker who keeps getting humiliated every time you try to defend the filth of your profit.

      By by!

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  5. Paul’s Pal

    You said;
    So we see that Allah has nothing better to do than to praise Muhammad before his angels in heaven! So what was that about not over-praising Muhammad like the true believers praise the Lord Jesus, Muhammad’s God and Master?

    By golly, I think this calls for another article!😉

    I say;
    Jesus eats and goes to toilet. We all know how shit smells. Prophet Mohammed’s God does not shit. If you Sam Shamoun will be worshiping a God who shits, do not equate him to the God of Abraham, Jacob, Mohammed and any prophet.

    Abraham, Moses, Isaac and Jesus himself worshiped One God of Abraham who never shits and is not 3 Persons 1 God that cannot be found in the Bible. The God of Abraham is immortal as the Bible said but Jesus was beaten to death and so Jesus is not God at all. Only people with stomach as big as yours will worship a man who shits.

    Prophet Jesus and Prophet Mohammed’s God does not shit. Your God Mr. Shamoun shits as you shits. It smells.

    John 20:17
    Verses

    New International Version
    Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'”

    New Living Translation
    “Don’t cling to me,” Jesus said, “for I haven’t yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’

    Only a brainless person like you who will worship someone who himself has a God. You “dandyhead”

    Thanks.

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  6. Paul’s Pal

    You attach on Islam makes you silly and not thinking. If Allah praise His prophet or Mohammed or Abraham and so what?

    Your God humbled himself to you. Find the meaning of humble and praise and see which one is demeaning. Your God became his prophet Himself. Your God became man i.e. a creature and you are not bothered about that and you are ok. with that but to be so petty and throwing any sink in the kitchen with regards to Muslims.

    Dr. James White will certainly not attack Islam on this low level argument of “God praising his prophet”. David Wood and Nabeel Quraish I guess will not come down so low like this. If God praise Mohammed and so what? God praises any Good person. Praise is different from praying. Praying is performing the act of supplication to the creator while praise is

    verb
    1.
    express warm approval or admiration of.
    “we can’t praise Chris enough—he did a brilliant job”
    synonyms: commend, express admiration for, applaud, pay tribute to, speak highly of, eulogize, compliment, congratulate, sing the praises of, rave about, go into raptures about, heap praise on, wax lyrical about, make much of, pat on the back, take one’s hat off to, lionize, admire, hail, ballyhoo; formallaud
    “the police praised Pauline for her courage in confronting the thieves”
    noun
    1.
    the expression of approval or admiration for someone or something.
    “the audience was full of praise for the whole production”
    synonyms: approval, acclaim, admiration, approbation, acclamation, plaudits, congratulations, commendation; tribute, accolade, compliment, a pat on the back, eulogy, panegyric; formal encomium
    “your praise means a great deal to us”

    Source: https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1AVNE_enCA700CA701&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what+is+praise

    You do not understand Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic or Latin which are scriptural languages and your English is not very good as well. You do not have a job but to be writing foolish articles about languages you are not expert in and cannot go back to learn them.

    YOU USE TO SAY ALLAH PRAYED TO MOHAMMED AND THE EPERTS CORRECTED YOU THAT IN ARABIC SALLAH DOES NOT ALWAY MEAN PRAY. NOW YOU CHANGED IT TO PRAISE. If you now agreed with the experts that God praise his prophets. And God praise any good person even in the Bible. And so what? Find a job.

    Thanks.

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  7. I just finished my article responding to your post, part of which I already posted. So here is the rest of my rebuttal:

    Another way in which Allah praises and glorifies Muhammad is by bestowing some of his own names and characteristics upon his “messenger”, as well as coupling Muhammad’s name together with his own:

    Muhammad b. al-Muthanna – Ibn Abi ‘Adi – ‘Abd al-Rahman (that is, al-Mas‘udi) – ‘Amr b. Murrah – Abu ‘Ubaydah – Abu Musa [al-Ash‘ari]: The Messenger of God named himself to us in various ways. He said, ‘I am Muhammad [the one who is praised], Ahmad [the most praiseworthy], al-Muqaffi [the follower], al-Hashir [the last in succession], Nabi al-tawbah wa’l-rahmah [the Prophet of repentance and mercy].’” (The History of al-Tabari – The Last Years of the Prophet, [State University of New York Press (SUNY), Albany], Volume IX, pp. 155-156; underline emphasis ours)

    And:

    Section 14. On Allah honouring the Prophet WITH SOME OF HIS OWN BEAUTIFUL NAMES and describing him WITH SOME OF HIS OWN SUBLIME QUALITIES

    … He has preferred our Prophet Muhammad since He has adorned him with a wealth of His names in His Mighty Book and on the tongues of His Prophets… One of His names is the Praiseworthy (al-Hamid). This means the One who is praised because He praises Himself and His slaves praise him. It also means the One who praises Himself and praises acts of obedience. The Prophet is called Muhammad and Ahmad. Muhammad means praised, and that is how his name occurs in the Zabur of David. Ahmad means the greatest of those who give praise AND THE MOST SUBLIME OF THOSE WHO ARE PRAISED. Hassan ibn Thabit indicated this when he said:

    It is taken for him from His own name in order to exalt him.
    The One with the Throne is praised (Mahmud) AND HE IS MUHAMMAD.

    Two of Allah’s names are the Compassionate, the Merciful (ar-Ra’uf, ar-Rahim). They are similar in meaning. He calls him by them in His Book when He says, “Compassionate, merciful to the believers.” (9.128) (Qadi Iyad Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Kitab Ash-shifa bi ta’rif huquq al-Mustafa (Healing by the recognition of the Rights of the Chosen One), translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K., third reprint 1991, paperback], Chapter Three. On The Sound And Well-Known Traditions Related About The Immense Value Placed On Him By His Lord, His Exalted Position And His Nobility In This World And The Next, pp. 126-127; capital and underline emphasis ours)

    Note that Allah himself is called Muhammad since it means the one who is praised, which certainly fits with what the Quran says concerning him. Ahmad, on the other hand, refers to the most sublime of those who are praised, which again would be an apt description for the Islamic deity as far as the Quran is concerned. And yet these are the very names that Allah gave to his so-called messenger, thereby signifying that the man Muhammad is also to be praised since Allah himself has made him the most sublime of those who is to be praised!

    Hence, the names Muhammad (“the one who is praised”) and Ahmad (“the most praiseworthy”) basically point to the fact that Allah actually wants everyone to praise and glorify his human “prophet”, a fact candidly admitted by the following Muslim sources:

    “… It may be that your Lord will raise you to, establish you, in the Hereafter, in, a praiseworthy station, one for which the first and last [of mankind] will praise you — and this is the station of intercession [which will take place] during [the passing of] the Final Judgement.” (Tafsir al-Jalalayn, Q. 17:79 http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=17&tAyahNo=79&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2; bold and underline emphasis ours)

    “… (It may be) and the expression ‘may be’ when used in connection with Allah means: it is a requisite (that thy Lord will raise thee to a praised estate) the station of intercession whereof you will be praised by the people of old and the people of new.” (Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=17&tAyahNo=79&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2; bold and underline emphasis ours)

    The very name “Muhammad” means “THE ONE WHO IS PRAISED, OFTEN PRAISED” and the name of the Prophet is also known as “Ahmad” meaning “THE ONE DESERVING OF PRAISE “.

    Imam Jalaludin as-Suyuti mentions:

    His name is Muhammad and Ahmad; his people are the people of praise (hamd)- and his prayer rite and the prayer rite of his people is opened with praise (hamd). In the Preserved Tablet in God’s abode it was written that his Caliphs and his Companions in writing the Sacred Volume, should open it with praise (Surah 1:1). And in his hand on the Resurrection Day will be the banner of praise. And when he then prostrates himself before God in intercession in our behalf and it is accepted he will praise the Lord with a new song that shall then be revealed to him, for his is the Heavenly Station of Praise (al-maqam al-mahmud, Surah 17:79)-and when he rises up in that Station ALL THE ASSEMBLY SHALL PRAISE HIM, Muslims and misbelievers alike, the first and the last, AND ALL MEANINGS AND MODES OF THANKFUL PRAISE SHALL BE GATHERED UP AND OFFERED TO HIM. [quoted from And Muhammad is His Messenger by Annemarie Schimmel p. 107] (On Praising the Prophet, by Mas’ud Ahmed Khan http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/praising_the_nabi.htm; bold and capital emphasis ours)

    This next one is rather disturbing:

    (It may be that your Lord will raise you to Maqam Mahmud.) meaning, `do that which you are commanded to do, and We will raise you to a station of praise and glory (Maqam Mahmud) on the Day of Resurrection, where ALL OF CREATION will praise you,’ AS WILL THEIR CREATOR, may He be glorified and exalted… I, Ibn Kathir, say: the Messenger of Allah will have honors in the Day of Resurrection in which no one else will have a share, honors which will not be matched by anyone else. He is the first one for whom the earth will be opened and he will come forth riding to the gathering place. He will have a banner under which Adam and anyone else will gather, and he will have the Hawd (Lake) to which no one else will have more access than he. He will have the right of the Grand Intercession with Allah when He comes to judge between His creation. This will be after the people ask Adam, then Nuh, then Ibrahim, then Musa, then `Isa to intercede, and each of them will say, “I am not able for that.” Then they will come to Muhammad, and he will say…

    <> We will mention this in more detail shortly, If Allah wills. Part of that will be that he will intercede for some people who had been commanded to be taken to Hell, and they will be brought back. He is the first Prophet whose Ummah will be judged, and the first to take them across the Bridge over the Fire, and the first to intercede in Paradise, as was reported in Sahih Muslim. In the Hadith about the Trumpet, it says that none of the believers will enter Paradise except through his intercession. He will be the first to enter Paradise, and his Ummah will be the first nation to enter. He will intercede for the status to be raised for people whose deeds could not get them there. He is the one who will reach Al-Wasilah, which is the highest position in Paradise, which befits no one but him. When Allah gives permission for intercession on behalf of sinners, the angels, Prophets and believers will intercede, and he will intercede for people whose number is known only to Allah. No one will intercede like him and no one will match him in intercession… (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Q. 17:79 http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2796&Itemid=72; bold and capital emphasis ours)

    Here we have one of Islam’s greatest scholars and commentators stating that Allah will join in with his creation to praise and glorify Muhammad!

    This basically means that Allah not only commands his creation to commit shirk (which is the unforgivable sin in Islam [cf. Q. 2:22; 4:48, 116]) by having them praise a finite, imperfect sinful creature, but he also joins them in committing this gross act of idolatry!

    Thus, even though the hadith has Muhammad prohibiting his followers from “over-praising” him, the Islamic corpus shows that he gets all the attention and affirmation he needs from his own god, who is busying himself with praising his “prophet” before his angelic host, and that all creation will eventually follow Allah’s example by praising Muhammad as well.

    So much for the denial that Muslims are in reality Muhammadans who worship Muhammad!

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    • Shamoun, don’t make me write an article embarrassing you and your babble :p

      God in the Bible demands his HANDS licked like a DOG. The word that is used for Licking hand is Proskuneo

      We will quote verses where God demands his hands Licked like a Dog. [Proskuneo]

      In
      ◄ Matthew 4:10 ►

      Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship [proskuneo] the Lord your God, and serve him only.'”

      As you can see the word proskuneo is used, Jesus is telling satan to LICKS God’s hands like a dog only. And I will use a website to prove that the WORD proskuneo MEANS LICKING HAND like a Dog-

      Lexicon:

      Word Origin
      proskuneo from (4314) and a probable derivative of (2965) (meaning to kiss, LIKE A DOG LICKING a dog licking his master’s hand)

      Here is the website:

      http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/proskuneo.html

      ◄ Hebrews 1:6 ►
      New International Version (©1984)
      And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship [PROSKUNEO] him.”

      Again here is another verse where God is saying demanding that Jesus’s hands be licked like a DOG.

      There are a number of other verses where God is demanding people to LICK his hand like a DOG 😉

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    • Let me muzzle Muhammad’s dog again and expose his boldfaced lie that the word proskyneo means to kiss, like Muhammad licks his master’s hand. The following excerpt is taken from my rebuttal to another deceitful dishonest stone kisser:

      (1) Ataie committed the same embarrassing blunder that another infamous Muhammadan apologist named Shibli Zaman did awhile back. Ataie claimed that the Greek word proskyneo is composed of two Greek words, pros (“toward”) and kyon (“dog”), and then likened it to dogs kissing their masters’ hands. Apart from this being a classic example of what is commonly known as an etymological or root fallacy, where a person erroneously assumes that the word is to be defined by, or is restricted to its root meaning, Ataie is simply mistaken about the word’s origin. Proskyneo DOES NOT come from kyon, but rather from the Greek word kus.

      Just as embarrassing is Ataie’s attempt to connect the word proskyneo with dogs kissing the hands of their masters, when there isn’t a single lexical source that we are aware of that defines it that way! Rather, the one concordance that does mention dogs says nothing about kissing the hands. Here is what it actually states:

      Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance

      worship.

      From pros and a probable derivative of kuon (meaning to kiss, like a dog LICKING his master’s hand); to fawn or crouch to, i.e. (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself in homage (do reverence to, adore) — worship. (Bible Hub)

      Notice that Strong’s mentions a dog licking his master’s hands, not kissing them, which makes absolute sense since dogs DON’T KISS but lick instead!

      With that said, does Ataie really want us to believe that when the NT writers describe people rendering proskyneo to Christ, what they really meant to convey was that these individuals were actually licking the Lord Jesus’ hands just like any good dog?

      This simply goes to show that Ataie does not know the Biblical languages as well as he thinks, and he should therefore refrain from pontificating on such matters lest he desires to further embarrass himself.

      For a more thorough refutation of this wicked liar make sure to read the following rebuttals:

      http://www.answeringislam.net/Responses/Zaman/etymology.htm

      http://www.answeringislam.net/Responses/Zaman/etymology_r1.htm

      So no, the word doesn’t mean to kiss someone like Muhammad used to lick and smooch his black stone god.

      Time for you to take a break from barking out the Quran and return to your dog house.

      Man it really must suck being a dishonest stone licker who keeps getting humiliated every time you try to defend the filth of your profit.

      By by!

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    • Don’t me make write an article showing how your god Jesus and yhwh demand people to lick their hands like a dog(as the lexicon defines it). It will be embarrassing for you man, just behave yourself, for now, go eat a sausage. 😉

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  8. lol oh Sammy you put so much effort to expose your unsolved issues..lol… i didnt see anywhere in the Quranic and hadith quotes in your bogus article where our beloved Prophet was over praised like in the case of you over praising Jesus with your latreuo to him..lol… we rightfully praise and honour our beloved prophet..Angel’s also praise and honour the muslim servants of the earth… .you however erroneously over praise with latreuo to the man Jesus..lol.. there is a key difference sammy!…..😉 but the deaf dumb and blind just don’t perceive!.. May Allah cure you! amin!

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