What’s wrong with good old British hypocrisy we ran an empire based on that value and I see no good reason now to do away with it, in fact more hypocrisy would see our economy and hegemony do rather better than it’s currently doing.
Paul,
Your remark suggests that you believe that in societies that practice polygyny men will be less likely to have mistresses and lovers. Do you have any evidence for this?
Paul,
Studies show that polygyny leads to many negative social effects. Here is the summary from one of them:
“The anthropological record indicates that approximately 85 per cent of human societies have permitted
men to have more than one wife (polygynous marriage), and both empirical and evolutionary considerations suggest that large absolute differences in wealth should favour more polygynous
marriages. Yet, monogamous marriage has spread across Europe, and more recently across the
globe, even as absolute wealth differences have expanded. Here, we develop and explore the hypothesis that the norms and institutions that compose the modern package of monogamous marriage have been favoured by cultural evolution because of their group-beneficial effects—promoting success in
inter-group competition. In suppressing intrasexual competition and reducing the size of the pool of
unmarried men, normative monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery
and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses. By assuaging the competition for younger brides, normative monogamy decreases (i) the spousal age gap, (ii) fertility, and (iii) gender inequality. By shifting male efforts from seeking wives to paternal investment, normative monogamy increases savings, child investment and economic productivity. By increasing the relatedness within households, normative
monogamy reduces intra-household conflict, leading to lower rates of child neglect, abuse, accidental
death and homicide. These predictions are tested using converging lines of evidence from across the
human sciences.”
Hmmm I can trump that: the Divine wisdom has so ordained matters for the good of the individual and society that polygamy is permissible IF the spouses are treated fairly and equally, as per the Quranic injunction.
And God knows best…
Besides you did not comment on the point of the post which is to highlight British hypocrisy: rejecting polygamy practiced responsibly and voluntarily, but tolerating adultery and having mistresses. Any research on the suffering and pain caused by that Andy?
Paul,
The study claims that “normative monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses”
If you read the paper you would find that these effects are largely due to the creation of a class of low status unattached males (as I pointed out in a previous discussion on this topic). So whether or not “the spouses are treated fairly and equally” is irrelevant.
So, at least in this case God does not know best.
“British Hypocrisy” – I’m not sure what you mean. Can you give an example?
God knows best by definition Andy. He is all wise and all knowing according to the Quran. But I will look at your piece of research and get back to you.
As to what I mean by British hypocrisy – with respect dude are you being a little obtuse?
Andy, I have had a chance to look at the article you link to. It is a very long and detailed scientific paper, I’m not sure I will have time to read it.
My post concerned some hypocritical British attitudes to the subject which you have so far chosen to not reply to. Why is this?
Some of the reasons why polygamy has been allowed in Islam, from population statistics to the physical nature of humans.
All mandates of the religion of Islam are from God, the Wise, and thus one deduces that all things which are permitted are due to the fact that their benefit to the self and society outweighs their harms. When one analyzes the reasons and results of the allowance of polygamy, it will be found that indeed the rulings of the religion of Islam are truly those which suit all times and places, as their source is God Almighty, the Wise and the Knowledgeable.
As the Quran indicates (4:3), the issue of polygamy in Islam is understood in the light of community obligations towards orphans and widows. Islam, as a universal religion that is suitable for all times and places, can not ignore these compelling obligations.
Islamic polygamy addresses the social problems of prostitution and extramarital affairs common in the West. Instead of cheating – infidelity is one of the top reasons for divorce in the West – Islam allows a man to marry more than one wife, with full recognition of the rights of all of them. The basic principle in Islam is that men are held responsible for their behavior towards women just as women are responsible for their behavior towards men.
The number of women in the world exceeds that of men. The surplus is a result of men dying in wars, violent crimes, and women outliving men.[1] The upsurge in homosexuality further increases the problem. Bertrand Russell wrote, “And in all countries where there is an excess of women, it is an obvious injustice that those women who, by arithmetical necessity, must remain unmarried should be wholly debarred from sexual experience.”[2] Polygamy, then, is the only responsible solution for this predicament.
Country[3]
Male Population
Female Population
Russia
46.1%
53.9%
UK
48.6%
51.5%
USA
48.8%
51.2%
Brazil
49.7%
50.27%
Let us take the US as an example. Why are extramarital affairs so widespread? “What makes this state of affairs possible, of course, is a supply of willing women. Most are single, both because of the growing numbers of unmarried women (there are 34 million in the United States today) and because single women generally have more free time and energy than do their married counterparts. Consider these statistics: One out of every five women today has no potential mate because there are simply not enough single men to go around. A 25-year-old single woman faces a serious undersupply of available men to start with, and the situation gets worse the older a woman gets. Divorced men are much more likely than divorced women to remarry (and they tend to marry younger women), so that there are more than twice as many single women as there are single men in their 40s. Indeed, a woman who divorces at 35 today is likely to remain single for the rest of her life. Caught in a demographic bind while seeking greater autonomy, more and more single women are opting for involvement with married men.”[4]
In addition, surplus of women who are not financially maintained by a husband is a cause of increased prostitution in the society. For example, Germany has 0.96 males/females. Under Germany’s welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job – including being a prostitute in the sex industry – or lose her unemployment benefit![5] A 1994 study found that 16% of 18-59 year old men in a US survey group had paid for sex (Gagnon, Laumann, and Kolata 1994).
Furthermore, the problem of the unbalanced sex ratios can worsen during times of war. The WWII war-bride phenomenon is a case in point. After WWII there were 7,300,000 more women than men in Germany alone (3.3 million of them were widows). There were 100 men aged 20 to 30 for every 167 women in that age group. Many of these women needed a man not only as a companion but also as a provider for the household in a time of unprecedented misery and hardship. The soldiers in the victorious Allied Armies exploited these women’s vulnerability. Many young girls and widows had liaisons with members of the occupying forces. Many American and British soldiers paid for their pleasures in cigarettes, chocolate, and bread.[6]
Polygamy is an alternative to divorce in case of some marital problems. Instead of divorcing a sick or infertile wife, Islam permits a man to marry another woman while taking care of the first if she chooses to stay with him.
The teachings of Islam, including polygamy, conform to human nature. Men and women differ in their desire for sexual variety. These differences are universal. According to evolutionary scientists men are “hard-wired” to spread their seed. Men everywhere – whether single or married – want more sexual partners than women do. The Islamic solution provides the only responsible alternative to the naturally ingrained desire in men.[7]
There is a universal biological constraint in male and female reproduction. A woman’s reproductive capacity declines after her 20s and ends with menopause, but even a man in his 70s retains the ability to father children.[8] Polygamy is a solution for a man who desires more children, especially in traditional, agrarian societies. This may seem irrelevant in the Western context where childbearing is increasingly becoming independent of marriage. Polygamy is also an alternative for a man who desires to satisfy his natural sexual relations within the bounds of marriage, but whose wife may be averse to them due to age or sickness. Moreover, Islam prohibits sexual relations during a woman’s monthly cycles. Therefore, the prolonged menstrual period of the woman which prevents the husband from having sex with her, or a man whose sexual urge is not satisfied by one wife, may marry another. Islam permits such men to realize their desire within a legal framework, making them responsible for their sexuality, so he does not have to resort to cohabitation or prostitution.
Institutional polygamy controls the spread of sexually transmitted diseases like Herpes and AIDS. Such venereal diseases spread in promiscuous societies where extra-marital affairs and prostitution are widespread. This may be due to a husband’s bringing back the diseases he is infected with in an extramarital affair when he returns back to his ‘monogamous’ relationship with his wife.
One can clearly see that there are many benefits which result from the allowance of polygamy. Many societal ills are left untreated, if not created or worsened, due to modern restrictions placed on polygamy. One should not always regard their culture and time the most superior in history, but rather they should analyze customs, traditions and beliefs based on solid and tangible facts. When people do so, keeping an open mind and heart, they will draw nearer and nearer to the truth until it becomes clear as the light of day.
FOOTNOTES:[1] According to Center for Health Statistics, life expectancy of women in US is 77.9 years, while for men it is only 70.3.[2] Marriage and Morals, p. 47[3] The New Encyclopaedia Britannica, vol. 17, pp. 34, 270, 244.[4] Laurel Richardson “Another World; More and More Single Women Are Opting for Affairs with Married Men, and the Trend Is Diminishing Feminist Progress,” Psychology Today, vol. 20, February 1986.[5] Clare Chapman, ‘If you don’t take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits,’ The Telegraph, 30 Jan. 2005.[6] Ute Frevert, Women in German History: from Bourgeois Emancipation to Sexual Liberation (New York: Berg Publishers, 1988) pp. 257-264 as quoted by Dr. Sherif Abdel Azim, “Women in Islam Versus Women in the Judaeo-Christian Tradition: The Myth and The Reality.”[7] Schmitt, D.P., “Universal sex differences in the desire for sexual variety: Tests from 52 nations, 6 continents, and 13 islands,” Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 85, 85-104. The study was conducted by Bradley University psychologist David Schmitt and published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, was impressive in its scope: It involved 16,288 college students from 50 countries in the Americas, Europe, Africa, Asia, and Australia.(Source: http://www.bradley.edu/academics/las/psy/pdfs/schmitt%5B1%5D%5B1%5D.etal.2003.jpsp.pdf)%5B8%5D Bruce Bower, “Darwin’s Minds”, Science News Vol. 140 No. 15, October 12, 1991, p. 233-4.
The beauty of hypocrisy is that you don’t have to be consistent with any principles you lay down even for yourself. Have one wife give her protection but the other women just have to be satisfied with the knowledge that I’m exercising my secular and western hypocritical freedom to be absolutely hypocritical. I’m sure when I leave her pregnant and holding the baby which the government will pay for because it too affords me the privilege of being hypocritical, i will be free to do the same virtually without consequence to myself.
I like hypocrisy because it means I can live a totally hedonistic life style without the stupid annoying fetters of morality or a conscience.
Absolutely bloody marvellous! Anyone for a spot of golf?
It’s fine to have a website like Gleeden which enables users to cheat on their wives. No, that’s not the least bit objectionable even though an extra-marrital affair (what a nice term for adultery) goes against a contract recognised by the state.
But a website that helps men find wives instead of mistresses and throw-away babymommas? Nah, that’s worthy of a media firestorm.
I’m all for the concept of polygamy. I want at least three husbands myself: one who cooks for me, one who cleans the house and one who gives my feet a massage when I come home after a long day’s work.
However, one thing comes to mind: suppose after that very relaxing massage or romantic dinner, you decide to sleep with your husbands, presumably not all at once; and that by the good grace of the lord you learn that you are to be blessed with a child. How do you then determine whose child it is? Bear in mind that you can’t ask for Jeremy Kyle’s help (DNA testing hasn’t been invented yet nor is it available in your part of the world.)
No funny things will take place in the bedroom of course – I have a headache every now and then. Maybe, just maybe on your birthday Verdant, if you have been a good servant. But most likely not.
Hi Paul
So there is no such thing as fornication and adultery in Muslim countries…it’s not British hypocrisy it’s actually worldwide…even in Muslim countries.
‘serial monogamy’ as it is euphemistically called, demonstrates the failure of enforced monogamy in the West. There are other options. Of course many of the greatest, most godly figures in the Bible had more than one wife: Abraham, Moses, David et al.
Hey Paul
So Jesus who was only sent to the Jews now has a new mission? I thought that was Muhammad’s mission to the whole world he must have failed in his mission.
I’m a little confused because what was Jesus supposed to tell the Jews in the first place?
The message he brought to the Jews was it to turn to Allah?
This is what does not make sense to me when I speak to Muslims I do try to find out things on the blog but some people are busy trying to score points anyway here we go.
1. What happened to the “house of Allah” from what I can see you Muslims have no reference points of lifestyle as a Muslim BEFORE Prophet Muhammad because it was full of idols.
2. What happened to all the righteous that were supposed to be serving and worshipping Allah BEFORE Muhammad where did they all disappear to?
Are you telling me there no “Muslims” around serving Allah before Mihammad came on the scene?
You are expecting me to believe that Jesus is going to return and call the world to Islam, who was the God of the Jews that Jesus was talking about.
Such nonsense Paul. Muslims dont even agree what consitutes ‘God’s law’ so how can it be for all man kind?
You are a disgrace to Britian promoting laws from an a 6th century Arab dictator. At least we all know that when Muslims pretend that they are not trying to enforce shariah thats its a load of taqiyya rubbish- the kind of place where rats like Faiz thrive
Get off your high horse. Sure, Muhammad liberated those he enslaved- makes total sense.
Paul, when you call for shariah you’ve lost any plausible reason to be respected. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again- the longer you are Muslim the more radical you become. It’s only a matter of time I reckon…
Where is this anger coming from? Is it not good to harbour such venom within you lest it poison you.
Such claims of enslavement are without basis as Muhammad and his companions encouraged the manumission of slaves. Muhammad was the leader of a society that contained people of many faiths including those who had at one point warred against him. Without ever forcing them to convert.
Not sincere? Listen Muslims have always said that people have been worshipping Allah since day dot and men lost their way.
Well I’m asking where are all the Muslims of whatever century you care to choose? The “house of Allah” filled with idols where were the Muslims why did let this happen to Gods house
If you can’t answer then just say you don’t know but please don’t try and make out that I have other motives
Hi Paul
I remember seeing a list you posted but I can’t remember where I saw it.
Ok maybe you can give me the title of a book that deals with the Muslims who worshipping Allah at some point before Prophet Muhammad came on the scene I would really appreciate that.
You said;
“Like the pagan Arabs”…you guys ARE the pagan Arabs…you call out to Allah but…
Kiss the black stone…just like Muhammad did….and the pagans did
Circle the kaabah…just like the pagans did.
Running between two hills…just like the pagans did.
The ritual of throwing seven stones at the three pillars…just like the pagans
Then there is ablution purification…how on earth does water purify you? What is the water meant to do purify from sin?
Jer 2:22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD.
In other words soap and water doesn’t deal with sin…you are still marked.
I say;
So, is it better to go and meditate/purify your heart towards God in dirt? smell? shit in your anus not proberly washed, smell without bathing? etc.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Why do you bath if you want to go to Church? If you know your are smelly with sweat, coffee or cigarrette etc. would it not be a good idea to wash your mouth and pray to your God? and the one standing closer to you will not be having bad smell?
Purification of the heart starts from cleaning the body, cloth and everything to purify them then to the heart.
Jesus Christ removed his sandals when he prays to God like the Muslims.
And the cleanliness benefit us. Washing of hands several times is supported by World Health Organizations, washing mouth and rinsing it is supported by ministry of health, washing one’s cloth when it is dirty is everyday hygience, etc. It all helps in fighting bacteria and other diseases ans so what is your problem?
You hate Islam so much and refuse to see anything good from Islam. Purification of the body goes with purification of the heart.
Prophet Abraham build the Kaaba with his children. The tradition to worship only one in that house or Kaaba started and as time goes on the people start to add idols into the worship. Some of the original ritual of worshiping only one God still remains in the Pagan rituals.
Throwing stones is symbolic of throwin stone at satan and running is depicting Abraham’s wife etc. if you care to research and read.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Why do you bath if you want to go to Church? If you know your are smelly with sweat, coffee or cigarrette etc. would it not be a good idea to wash your mouth and pray to your God? and the one standing closer to you will not be having bad smell?
You are not using your intellect…having a bath or shower is quite natural to me…i don’t wash because I’m going to pray washing day and night is a normal procedure that has nothing to do with prayer.
You said…
Purification of the heart starts from cleaning the body, cloth and everything to purify them then to the heart.
No…
Purification of the heart…starts at the heart! This is why Jesus says what he says in this verse…
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
It’s what’s going on inside your heart that matters.
You said…
Jesus Christ removed his sandals when he prays to God like the Muslims.
Where did you read Jesus removed his sandals before he prays? Please remind me of the verse.
You said…
Prophet Abraham build the Kaaba with his children. The tradition to worship only one in that house or Kaaba started and as time goes on the people start to add idols into the worship. Some of the original ritual of worshiping only one God still remains in the Pagan rituals.
Throwing stones is symbolic of throwin stone at satan and running is depicting Abraham’s wife etc. if you care to research and read.
Please give me the evidence of Abraham living in Mecca.
People start to add idols into the worship…what the righteous people?
Some of the original ritual of worshiping only one God still remains in the Pagan rituals….really?
Throwing stones at Satan…where is that in scripture?
Running between two hills…where is that in scripture?
Kissing the black stone…where is that in scripture?
Prayer…The Sabeans have five prayers similar to the five prayers of the Muslims…this is unique to Muslims the Sabeans were already praying in this way.
Hi Paul
I remember seeing a list you posted but I can’t remember where I saw it.
Ok maybe you can give me the title of a book that deals with the Muslims who worshipping Allah at some point before Prophet Muhammad came on the scene I would really appreciate that.
Thanks.
I say;
The Quran said all prophets worshiped Allah-the only one true God of Abraham who is alone and not “Trinity”, “Tree persons 1 God”, “Jesus”, “man”, “Triune God” etc.
The Bible said all prophets worshiped Allah-the only one true God of Abraham who is alone and not “Trinity”, “Tree persons 1 God”, “Jesus”, “man”, “Triune God” etc.
Allah, Allah, Allah, Allahu Akabar. All people worshiped Allah before prophet Mohamed. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Pagans etc. all worship Allah before Prophet Mohammed.
Before prophet Mohammed all people at his area including Jews, Christians, Pagans etc. worship Allah and Allah is used as God before prophet Mohammed by all religions and is still used today by all religions especially in the Middle East where Prophet Mohammed came.
Arab Jews i.e. Palestinian, Iraqi, Yemenite Jews, Moroccan Jews etc. and all their Christian counterparts call Allah as their God.
What book do you want again? Book by the likes of Dr. James White, Nabeel Quraish or David wood or Jay Smith? They all believed Allah is God but like the Pagan Arabs they add other things as God or gods to Allah. That is what the Quran and the Bible is against. Both Quran and the Bible said not to associate anything to the only one God of Abraham who is alone?
I have been submitting the verses here over and over and you do not bother to study them but just to keep asking irritating questions.
Paul Williams is right, your questions are not for learning and studies purposes but cynical.
Any one who worships the only God of Abraham without adding any person to Him before prophet Mohammed is a Muslim. After Jesus, then Jesus has to believed as prophet not God like the Arians, Ebionites etc. who do not believe in Trinity. There different forms of Christianity and Arianism and you could find Muslims among them-Christians and Arians, Ebionite etc.
You said…
What book do you want again? Book by the likes of Dr. James White, Nabeel Quraish or David wood or Jay Smith? They all believed Allah is God but like the Pagan Arabs they add other things as God or gods to Allah. That is what the Quran and the Bible is against. Both Quran and the Bible said not to associate anything to the only one God of Abraham who is alone?
I don’t need their books and there are a lot of other people that you don’t have any idea about that are preparing themselves for this sort of discussion.
“Like the pagan Arabs”…you guys ARE the pagan Arabs…you call out to Allah but…
Kiss the black stone…just like Muhammad did….and the pagans did
Circle the kaabah…just like the pagans did.
Running between two hills…just like the pagans did.
The ritual of throwing seven stones at the three pillars…just like the pagans
Then there is ablution purification…how on earth does water purify you? What is the water meant to do purify from sin?
Jer 2:22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD.
In other words soap and water doesn’t deal with sin…you are still marked.
Islam is just a cut and paste religion cutting people out of certain scriptures and pasting Muhammad in.
Now you’re trying to make out like you were first ones to do everything, basically trying to cut and paste history.
Don’t worry I’m coming back to you about your other questions
It’s probably not unheard of that some men who have more than one wife also have a ‘bit on the side’ stashed away someplace. Please don’t say muslim men don’t cheat and please don’t say having a second wife prevents cheating. Some may weigh up the responsibility of a second wife and consider cheating to be cheaper. It’s not a perfect world
Hi Intellect
I don’t hate the people I just don’t agreement with the teaching which is why you see me trying to insult anyone, and neither do you see me involved in name calling and trying to judgemental towards those I communicate with on this blog.
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What’s wrong with good old British hypocrisy we ran an empire based on that value and I see no good reason now to do away with it, in fact more hypocrisy would see our economy and hegemony do rather better than it’s currently doing.
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Paul,
Your remark suggests that you believe that in societies that practice polygyny men will be less likely to have mistresses and lovers. Do you have any evidence for this?
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Common sense dear boy, common sense.
I presume you support British hypocrisy over the more rational Islamic polygamy?
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Since you know how adultery is viewed in these Muslim societies I think that should be an easy question to answer.
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Paul,
Studies show that polygyny leads to many negative social effects. Here is the summary from one of them:
“The anthropological record indicates that approximately 85 per cent of human societies have permitted
men to have more than one wife (polygynous marriage), and both empirical and evolutionary considerations suggest that large absolute differences in wealth should favour more polygynous
marriages. Yet, monogamous marriage has spread across Europe, and more recently across the
globe, even as absolute wealth differences have expanded. Here, we develop and explore the hypothesis that the norms and institutions that compose the modern package of monogamous marriage have been favoured by cultural evolution because of their group-beneficial effects—promoting success in
inter-group competition. In suppressing intrasexual competition and reducing the size of the pool of
unmarried men, normative monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery
and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses. By assuaging the competition for younger brides, normative monogamy decreases (i) the spousal age gap, (ii) fertility, and (iii) gender inequality. By shifting male efforts from seeking wives to paternal investment, normative monogamy increases savings, child investment and economic productivity. By increasing the relatedness within households, normative
monogamy reduces intra-household conflict, leading to lower rates of child neglect, abuse, accidental
death and homicide. These predictions are tested using converging lines of evidence from across the
human sciences.”
Click to access 657.full.pdf
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What a load of jargon!
Hmmm I can trump that: the Divine wisdom has so ordained matters for the good of the individual and society that polygamy is permissible IF the spouses are treated fairly and equally, as per the Quranic injunction.
And God knows best…
Besides you did not comment on the point of the post which is to highlight British hypocrisy: rejecting polygamy practiced responsibly and voluntarily, but tolerating adultery and having mistresses. Any research on the suffering and pain caused by that Andy?
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Paul,
The study claims that “normative monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses”
If you read the paper you would find that these effects are largely due to the creation of a class of low status unattached males (as I pointed out in a previous discussion on this topic). So whether or not “the spouses are treated fairly and equally” is irrelevant.
So, at least in this case God does not know best.
“British Hypocrisy” – I’m not sure what you mean. Can you give an example?
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God knows best by definition Andy. He is all wise and all knowing according to the Quran. But I will look at your piece of research and get back to you.
As to what I mean by British hypocrisy – with respect dude are you being a little obtuse?
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Andy, I have had a chance to look at the article you link to. It is a very long and detailed scientific paper, I’m not sure I will have time to read it.
My post concerned some hypocritical British attitudes to the subject which you have so far chosen to not reply to. Why is this?
In the meantime I found this helpful article:
Some of the reasons why polygamy has been allowed in Islam, from population statistics to the physical nature of humans.
All mandates of the religion of Islam are from God, the Wise, and thus one deduces that all things which are permitted are due to the fact that their benefit to the self and society outweighs their harms. When one analyzes the reasons and results of the allowance of polygamy, it will be found that indeed the rulings of the religion of Islam are truly those which suit all times and places, as their source is God Almighty, the Wise and the Knowledgeable.
As the Quran indicates (4:3), the issue of polygamy in Islam is understood in the light of community obligations towards orphans and widows. Islam, as a universal religion that is suitable for all times and places, can not ignore these compelling obligations.
Islamic polygamy addresses the social problems of prostitution and extramarital affairs common in the West. Instead of cheating – infidelity is one of the top reasons for divorce in the West – Islam allows a man to marry more than one wife, with full recognition of the rights of all of them. The basic principle in Islam is that men are held responsible for their behavior towards women just as women are responsible for their behavior towards men.
The number of women in the world exceeds that of men. The surplus is a result of men dying in wars, violent crimes, and women outliving men.[1] The upsurge in homosexuality further increases the problem. Bertrand Russell wrote, “And in all countries where there is an excess of women, it is an obvious injustice that those women who, by arithmetical necessity, must remain unmarried should be wholly debarred from sexual experience.”[2] Polygamy, then, is the only responsible solution for this predicament.
Country[3]
Male Population
Female Population
Russia
46.1%
53.9%
UK
48.6%
51.5%
USA
48.8%
51.2%
Brazil
49.7%
50.27%
Let us take the US as an example. Why are extramarital affairs so widespread? “What makes this state of affairs possible, of course, is a supply of willing women. Most are single, both because of the growing numbers of unmarried women (there are 34 million in the United States today) and because single women generally have more free time and energy than do their married counterparts. Consider these statistics: One out of every five women today has no potential mate because there are simply not enough single men to go around. A 25-year-old single woman faces a serious undersupply of available men to start with, and the situation gets worse the older a woman gets. Divorced men are much more likely than divorced women to remarry (and they tend to marry younger women), so that there are more than twice as many single women as there are single men in their 40s. Indeed, a woman who divorces at 35 today is likely to remain single for the rest of her life. Caught in a demographic bind while seeking greater autonomy, more and more single women are opting for involvement with married men.”[4]
In addition, surplus of women who are not financially maintained by a husband is a cause of increased prostitution in the society. For example, Germany has 0.96 males/females. Under Germany’s welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job – including being a prostitute in the sex industry – or lose her unemployment benefit![5] A 1994 study found that 16% of 18-59 year old men in a US survey group had paid for sex (Gagnon, Laumann, and Kolata 1994).
Furthermore, the problem of the unbalanced sex ratios can worsen during times of war. The WWII war-bride phenomenon is a case in point. After WWII there were 7,300,000 more women than men in Germany alone (3.3 million of them were widows). There were 100 men aged 20 to 30 for every 167 women in that age group. Many of these women needed a man not only as a companion but also as a provider for the household in a time of unprecedented misery and hardship. The soldiers in the victorious Allied Armies exploited these women’s vulnerability. Many young girls and widows had liaisons with members of the occupying forces. Many American and British soldiers paid for their pleasures in cigarettes, chocolate, and bread.[6]
Polygamy is an alternative to divorce in case of some marital problems. Instead of divorcing a sick or infertile wife, Islam permits a man to marry another woman while taking care of the first if she chooses to stay with him.
The teachings of Islam, including polygamy, conform to human nature. Men and women differ in their desire for sexual variety. These differences are universal. According to evolutionary scientists men are “hard-wired” to spread their seed. Men everywhere – whether single or married – want more sexual partners than women do. The Islamic solution provides the only responsible alternative to the naturally ingrained desire in men.[7]
There is a universal biological constraint in male and female reproduction. A woman’s reproductive capacity declines after her 20s and ends with menopause, but even a man in his 70s retains the ability to father children.[8] Polygamy is a solution for a man who desires more children, especially in traditional, agrarian societies. This may seem irrelevant in the Western context where childbearing is increasingly becoming independent of marriage. Polygamy is also an alternative for a man who desires to satisfy his natural sexual relations within the bounds of marriage, but whose wife may be averse to them due to age or sickness. Moreover, Islam prohibits sexual relations during a woman’s monthly cycles. Therefore, the prolonged menstrual period of the woman which prevents the husband from having sex with her, or a man whose sexual urge is not satisfied by one wife, may marry another. Islam permits such men to realize their desire within a legal framework, making them responsible for their sexuality, so he does not have to resort to cohabitation or prostitution.
Institutional polygamy controls the spread of sexually transmitted diseases like Herpes and AIDS. Such venereal diseases spread in promiscuous societies where extra-marital affairs and prostitution are widespread. This may be due to a husband’s bringing back the diseases he is infected with in an extramarital affair when he returns back to his ‘monogamous’ relationship with his wife.
One can clearly see that there are many benefits which result from the allowance of polygamy. Many societal ills are left untreated, if not created or worsened, due to modern restrictions placed on polygamy. One should not always regard their culture and time the most superior in history, but rather they should analyze customs, traditions and beliefs based on solid and tangible facts. When people do so, keeping an open mind and heart, they will draw nearer and nearer to the truth until it becomes clear as the light of day.
FOOTNOTES:[1] According to Center for Health Statistics, life expectancy of women in US is 77.9 years, while for men it is only 70.3.[2] Marriage and Morals, p. 47[3] The New Encyclopaedia Britannica, vol. 17, pp. 34, 270, 244.[4] Laurel Richardson “Another World; More and More Single Women Are Opting for Affairs with Married Men, and the Trend Is Diminishing Feminist Progress,” Psychology Today, vol. 20, February 1986.[5] Clare Chapman, ‘If you don’t take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits,’ The Telegraph, 30 Jan. 2005.[6] Ute Frevert, Women in German History: from Bourgeois Emancipation to Sexual Liberation (New York: Berg Publishers, 1988) pp. 257-264 as quoted by Dr. Sherif Abdel Azim, “Women in Islam Versus Women in the Judaeo-Christian Tradition: The Myth and The Reality.”[7] Schmitt, D.P., “Universal sex differences in the desire for sexual variety: Tests from 52 nations, 6 continents, and 13 islands,” Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 85, 85-104. The study was conducted by Bradley University psychologist David Schmitt and published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, was impressive in its scope: It involved 16,288 college students from 50 countries in the Americas, Europe, Africa, Asia, and Australia.(Source: http://www.bradley.edu/academics/las/psy/pdfs/schmitt%5B1%5D%5B1%5D.etal.2003.jpsp.pdf)%5B8%5D Bruce Bower, “Darwin’s Minds”, Science News Vol. 140 No. 15, October 12, 1991, p. 233-4.
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The beauty of hypocrisy is that you don’t have to be consistent with any principles you lay down even for yourself. Have one wife give her protection but the other women just have to be satisfied with the knowledge that I’m exercising my secular and western hypocritical freedom to be absolutely hypocritical. I’m sure when I leave her pregnant and holding the baby which the government will pay for because it too affords me the privilege of being hypocritical, i will be free to do the same virtually without consequence to myself.
I like hypocrisy because it means I can live a totally hedonistic life style without the stupid annoying fetters of morality or a conscience.
Absolutely bloody marvellous! Anyone for a spot of golf?
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Golf? I prefer hunting with hounds.
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It’s fine to have a website like Gleeden which enables users to cheat on their wives. No, that’s not the least bit objectionable even though an extra-marrital affair (what a nice term for adultery) goes against a contract recognised by the state.
But a website that helps men find wives instead of mistresses and throw-away babymommas? Nah, that’s worthy of a media firestorm.
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I’m all for the concept of polygamy. I want at least three husbands myself: one who cooks for me, one who cleans the house and one who gives my feet a massage when I come home after a long day’s work.
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lol dream on..
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That sounds fun.
However, one thing comes to mind: suppose after that very relaxing massage or romantic dinner, you decide to sleep with your husbands, presumably not all at once; and that by the good grace of the lord you learn that you are to be blessed with a child. How do you then determine whose child it is? Bear in mind that you can’t ask for Jeremy Kyle’s help (DNA testing hasn’t been invented yet nor is it available in your part of the world.)
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No funny things will take place in the bedroom of course – I have a headache every now and then. Maybe, just maybe on your birthday Verdant, if you have been a good servant. But most likely not.
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Hi Paul
So there is no such thing as fornication and adultery in Muslim countries…it’s not British hypocrisy it’s actually worldwide…even in Muslim countries.
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‘serial monogamy’ as it is euphemistically called, demonstrates the failure of enforced monogamy in the West. There are other options. Of course many of the greatest, most godly figures in the Bible had more than one wife: Abraham, Moses, David et al.
It is a biblical practice.
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Its called muta- muslim self jusification to commit adultery
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Why 4 Wives? Polygamy in Islam & other Religions
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Paul, keep your sharia to yourself.
If Allah knows best, we are in a heap of trouble.
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Lassie, perhaps you prefer Biblical law like Joseph Kony and his Lord’s Resistance Army?
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Paulus, God’s Divine law is for all mankind, when Jesus returns he will call the world to Islam.
Then you will truly submit to Jesus.
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Hey Paul
So Jesus who was only sent to the Jews now has a new mission? I thought that was Muhammad’s mission to the whole world he must have failed in his mission.
I’m a little confused because what was Jesus supposed to tell the Jews in the first place?
The message he brought to the Jews was it to turn to Allah?
This is what does not make sense to me when I speak to Muslims I do try to find out things on the blog but some people are busy trying to score points anyway here we go.
1. What happened to the “house of Allah” from what I can see you Muslims have no reference points of lifestyle as a Muslim BEFORE Prophet Muhammad because it was full of idols.
2. What happened to all the righteous that were supposed to be serving and worshipping Allah BEFORE Muhammad where did they all disappear to?
Are you telling me there no “Muslims” around serving Allah before Mihammad came on the scene?
You are expecting me to believe that Jesus is going to return and call the world to Islam, who was the God of the Jews that Jesus was talking about.
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questions questions questions…
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Such nonsense Paul. Muslims dont even agree what consitutes ‘God’s law’ so how can it be for all man kind?
You are a disgrace to Britian promoting laws from an a 6th century Arab dictator. At least we all know that when Muslims pretend that they are not trying to enforce shariah thats its a load of taqiyya rubbish- the kind of place where rats like Faiz thrive
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Joined the Dark Side Paulus has. Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are his ways now.
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Paulus i believe you meant to say 7th century Arab liberator.
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Get off your high horse. Sure, Muhammad liberated those he enslaved- makes total sense.
Paul, when you call for shariah you’ve lost any plausible reason to be respected. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again- the longer you are Muslim the more radical you become. It’s only a matter of time I reckon…
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Thank you for that Paulus. I will give your comment the attention it deserves.
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Where is this anger coming from? Is it not good to harbour such venom within you lest it poison you.
Such claims of enslavement are without basis as Muhammad and his companions encouraged the manumission of slaves. Muhammad was the leader of a society that contained people of many faiths including those who had at one point warred against him. Without ever forcing them to convert.
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Patrice – if only you knew the power of the Dark Side like Paulus.
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Sorry Prophet Muhammad
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Hi Paul
It’s like I said before you want people to believe your message, then we need ask questions in order to understand.
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but your questions are not sincere dude.
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Not sincere? Listen Muslims have always said that people have been worshipping Allah since day dot and men lost their way.
Well I’m asking where are all the Muslims of whatever century you care to choose? The “house of Allah” filled with idols where were the Muslims why did let this happen to Gods house
If you can’t answer then just say you don’t know but please don’t try and make out that I have other motives
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I don’t think you’re sincere cos you could easily read some good books (see my list) or even google for answers on the thousands of Islamic Q&A sites.
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Hi Paul
I remember seeing a list you posted but I can’t remember where I saw it.
Ok maybe you can give me the title of a book that deals with the Muslims who worshipping Allah at some point before Prophet Muhammad came on the scene I would really appreciate that.
Thanks.
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Do you know what the words ‘Islam’ and ‘Muslim’ mean in the Quran? These terms are applied to men like Abraham and Moses. Why is this?
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You said;
“Like the pagan Arabs”…you guys ARE the pagan Arabs…you call out to Allah but…
Kiss the black stone…just like Muhammad did….and the pagans did
Circle the kaabah…just like the pagans did.
Running between two hills…just like the pagans did.
The ritual of throwing seven stones at the three pillars…just like the pagans
Then there is ablution purification…how on earth does water purify you? What is the water meant to do purify from sin?
Jer 2:22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD.
In other words soap and water doesn’t deal with sin…you are still marked.
I say;
So, is it better to go and meditate/purify your heart towards God in dirt? smell? shit in your anus not proberly washed, smell without bathing? etc.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Why do you bath if you want to go to Church? If you know your are smelly with sweat, coffee or cigarrette etc. would it not be a good idea to wash your mouth and pray to your God? and the one standing closer to you will not be having bad smell?
Purification of the heart starts from cleaning the body, cloth and everything to purify them then to the heart.
Jesus Christ removed his sandals when he prays to God like the Muslims.
And the cleanliness benefit us. Washing of hands several times is supported by World Health Organizations, washing mouth and rinsing it is supported by ministry of health, washing one’s cloth when it is dirty is everyday hygience, etc. It all helps in fighting bacteria and other diseases ans so what is your problem?
You hate Islam so much and refuse to see anything good from Islam. Purification of the body goes with purification of the heart.
Prophet Abraham build the Kaaba with his children. The tradition to worship only one in that house or Kaaba started and as time goes on the people start to add idols into the worship. Some of the original ritual of worshiping only one God still remains in the Pagan rituals.
Throwing stones is symbolic of throwin stone at satan and running is depicting Abraham’s wife etc. if you care to research and read.
Thanks
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Hi intellect
Cleanliness is next to Godliness. Why do you bath if you want to go to Church? If you know your are smelly with sweat, coffee or cigarrette etc. would it not be a good idea to wash your mouth and pray to your God? and the one standing closer to you will not be having bad smell?
You are not using your intellect…having a bath or shower is quite natural to me…i don’t wash because I’m going to pray washing day and night is a normal procedure that has nothing to do with prayer.
You said…
Purification of the heart starts from cleaning the body, cloth and everything to purify them then to the heart.
No…
Purification of the heart…starts at the heart! This is why Jesus says what he says in this verse…
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
It’s what’s going on inside your heart that matters.
You said…
Jesus Christ removed his sandals when he prays to God like the Muslims.
Where did you read Jesus removed his sandals before he prays? Please remind me of the verse.
You said…
Prophet Abraham build the Kaaba with his children. The tradition to worship only one in that house or Kaaba started and as time goes on the people start to add idols into the worship. Some of the original ritual of worshiping only one God still remains in the Pagan rituals.
Throwing stones is symbolic of throwin stone at satan and running is depicting Abraham’s wife etc. if you care to research and read.
Please give me the evidence of Abraham living in Mecca.
People start to add idols into the worship…what the righteous people?
Some of the original ritual of worshiping only one God still remains in the Pagan rituals….really?
Throwing stones at Satan…where is that in scripture?
Running between two hills…where is that in scripture?
Kissing the black stone…where is that in scripture?
Prayer…The Sabeans have five prayers similar to the five prayers of the Muslims…this is unique to Muslims the Sabeans were already praying in this way.
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defendchrist
You said;
defendchrist
September 8, 2016 • 10:18 pm
Hi Paul
I remember seeing a list you posted but I can’t remember where I saw it.
Ok maybe you can give me the title of a book that deals with the Muslims who worshipping Allah at some point before Prophet Muhammad came on the scene I would really appreciate that.
Thanks.
I say;
The Quran said all prophets worshiped Allah-the only one true God of Abraham who is alone and not “Trinity”, “Tree persons 1 God”, “Jesus”, “man”, “Triune God” etc.
The Bible said all prophets worshiped Allah-the only one true God of Abraham who is alone and not “Trinity”, “Tree persons 1 God”, “Jesus”, “man”, “Triune God” etc.
Allah, Allah, Allah, Allahu Akabar. All people worshiped Allah before prophet Mohamed. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Pagans etc. all worship Allah before Prophet Mohammed.
Before prophet Mohammed all people at his area including Jews, Christians, Pagans etc. worship Allah and Allah is used as God before prophet Mohammed by all religions and is still used today by all religions especially in the Middle East where Prophet Mohammed came.
Arab Jews i.e. Palestinian, Iraqi, Yemenite Jews, Moroccan Jews etc. and all their Christian counterparts call Allah as their God.
What book do you want again? Book by the likes of Dr. James White, Nabeel Quraish or David wood or Jay Smith? They all believed Allah is God but like the Pagan Arabs they add other things as God or gods to Allah. That is what the Quran and the Bible is against. Both Quran and the Bible said not to associate anything to the only one God of Abraham who is alone?
I have been submitting the verses here over and over and you do not bother to study them but just to keep asking irritating questions.
Paul Williams is right, your questions are not for learning and studies purposes but cynical.
Thanks.
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defendchrist
Any one who worships the only God of Abraham without adding any person to Him before prophet Mohammed is a Muslim. After Jesus, then Jesus has to believed as prophet not God like the Arians, Ebionites etc. who do not believe in Trinity. There different forms of Christianity and Arianism and you could find Muslims among them-Christians and Arians, Ebionite etc.
Thanks.
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To intellect.
You said…
What book do you want again? Book by the likes of Dr. James White, Nabeel Quraish or David wood or Jay Smith? They all believed Allah is God but like the Pagan Arabs they add other things as God or gods to Allah. That is what the Quran and the Bible is against. Both Quran and the Bible said not to associate anything to the only one God of Abraham who is alone?
I don’t need their books and there are a lot of other people that you don’t have any idea about that are preparing themselves for this sort of discussion.
“Like the pagan Arabs”…you guys ARE the pagan Arabs…you call out to Allah but…
Kiss the black stone…just like Muhammad did….and the pagans did
Circle the kaabah…just like the pagans did.
Running between two hills…just like the pagans did.
The ritual of throwing seven stones at the three pillars…just like the pagans
Then there is ablution purification…how on earth does water purify you? What is the water meant to do purify from sin?
Jer 2:22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD.
In other words soap and water doesn’t deal with sin…you are still marked.
Islam is just a cut and paste religion cutting people out of certain scriptures and pasting Muhammad in.
Now you’re trying to make out like you were first ones to do everything, basically trying to cut and paste history.
Don’t worry I’m coming back to you about your other questions
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It’s probably not unheard of that some men who have more than one wife also have a ‘bit on the side’ stashed away someplace. Please don’t say muslim men don’t cheat and please don’t say having a second wife prevents cheating. Some may weigh up the responsibility of a second wife and consider cheating to be cheaper. It’s not a perfect world
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“It’s more British to have mistresses of lovers”
Now you are trying your hand at racism?
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the British are not a “race” – we come in all colours these days.
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Fair enough. Your bigotry is directed at all non-muslims regardless of race and creed. I guess that makes it okay.
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LOL
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Hi Intellect
I don’t hate the people I just don’t agreement with the teaching which is why you see me trying to insult anyone, and neither do you see me involved in name calling and trying to judgemental towards those I communicate with on this blog.
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Just not in agreement with the teaching
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Don’t see me trying to insult anyone.
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LOL, another question Lassie refuses to answer! Bark all you want Lassie! We’ll just laugh at you more!
Question: Do you prefer Biblical law like Joseph Kony as his Lord’s Resistance Army?
Speak boy!
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Faiz
Biblical law doesn’t apply to christians. SO Kony – if indeed he is a christian – isn’t understanding the christian faith.
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That’s funny Trey because Kony would say the same thing about you.
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