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  1. Paul, thanks much for sharing this. I applaud you for publicizing this post.

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  2. “Indeed, those who like that immorality should be spread [or publicized] among those who have believed will have a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And Allah knows and you do not know.” (Quran 24:19)

    Let us not forget the often concealed problems caused by promiscuity and homosexual actvity to our societies. The American Centre for Disease Control tells us:

    ” In 2014, gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men [maybe 2 to 3% of the population] accounted for 83% of primary and secondary syphilis cases where sex of sex partner was known in the United States. Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men often get other STDs, including chlamydia and gonorrhea infections. HPV (Human papillomavirus), the most common STD in the United States, is also a concern for gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men. Some types of HPV can cause genital and anal warts and some can lead to the development of anal and oral cancers. Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men are 17 times more likely to get anal cancer than heterosexual men.”
    “About 10% of new Hepatitis A and 20% of all new Hepatitis B infections in the United States are among gay and bisexual men.”

    I hope our Christian brothers and sisters who have been under more pressure and for longer do not capitulate either in the face of this immorality.

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  3. I commend the sister for taking a stand for her principles, regardless of it being right/wrong…it was sincere in its intent. But…Muslims do not live in a vacuum. In Islam, one keeps some things private—and sexual orientation would be one such thing—In the West it is a public identity. The counter-narrative that Islam should be promoting should be that some things are beyond human judgement—because they are a private matter between the individual and God and should not be a public matter. In other words—to discriminate between Queer and non-Queer (?) was unjust. The event should not have had ANY categories of sexual misconduct as a criteria at all. This should have been the principle we take a stand on with regards to the event. However, prejudice and discrimination can occur because people do not understand/have contact with—the other. An after-conference could have been organized where specific problems of injustice/prejudice/discrimination could have been discussed so that we can build better, more supportive communities of compassion and forgiveness for our brothers and sisters who have failings/inadequacies but are nevertheless sincere Muslims. Such a stance would not compromise either justice or moral principles….?….


  4. The relationship between religion and the LBGT community has long been a difficult one. What represents objectivity and what represents seeing these issues through tinted lenses?

    Historically, people have used their religious beliefs to justify outrageous acts of bigotry and violence toward LBGT communities. In some corners of the world this continues, whilst some people don’t appear to require any justification other than ‘it’s icky’ to kill gays. http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/florida-shooting-hate-crimes/).

    I think that’s the true immorality here. We still live in a world where you can be ostracised from your own family, verbally and physically abused, and even killed, because of something you didn’t choose.


  5. The New Testament long ago already spoke about this problem. And OT before that.

    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

    19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.

    20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

    21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

    23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

    24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.

    25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,

    27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

    Romans 1:18-27


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