This is fantastic news for us! More Christians are coming closer to the truth than ever before. Jesus was indeed created!

71% of evangelicals believe that “Jesus is the first and greatest being created by God”

Shocked and alarmed the Dallas Theological Seminary reports on their utter failure as the top American evangelical seminary to get its message about Jesus across. Overwhelmingly, American Evangelicals in the pews have not been taken in by the false teaching that Jesus is Yahweh and believe, rightly, that Jesus was a created being just like us. Imagine if three-quarters of Muslims believed that Muhammad was not a prophet of God! Incredible.


71% of evangelicals believe that “Jesus is the first and greatest being created by God” and 74% believe that “Individuals must contribute to their own salvation.” 

See the original report in Christianity Today here

See Dallas Theological Seminary reaction and comments here

(with thanks to Ijaz)

Categories: Christianity, Islam, Missionaries, Unbelievable

27 replies

  1. Wow!
    This result has a lot of implications.

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  2. Where’s James White? 🙂

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  3. But what God is? The survey doesn’t answer how Christians believe on this.

    Apparently we could still be within the limits of orthodoxy and answer in the affirmative like those questioned.

    52 percent still don’t believe that God accepts the worship of Muslims. You still have a lot of dawah to do on that one but the pope and his minions is helping you out.


  4. Yes Christ is vomiting them out and removing their lamp stands.

    “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.”

    Yes Good news for Christians who kept the faith til the end but bad news very bad news for you and those who did not.

    Repent and bend your knee to Christ before it is to late.


    • “Repent and bend your knee to Christ before it is to late.”
      We bend our knees for that ONE whom Jesus himself bent his knees before him.
      So stop preaching this Shirk.

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    • Abdullah wrote…

      We bend our knees for that ONE whom Jesus himself bent his knees before him.

      My response: No you don’t even do that, since Jesus bent his knee to the Father, and allah is a father to know one?


    • Allah is not a father for anyone. Why would he be?
      Greco Roman culture got it wrong from mouth of Jesus.


    • Abdulla you just keep getting it wrong. “Greco Roman culture got it wrong from mouth of Jesus.”

      My response. WRONG. Jews have been calling God, FATHER long before the Romans or even Greeks came into the picture.

      Stop getting it wrong and start getting it right. Bend your knee to Christ the King of Kings, LORD OF LORDS


    • I doubt if that was the original word for jews since even jews got hellenic with times.
      Moreover, in Semitic languages some terms are used for the father and for the God. In Arabic, for example, we have the term ( Rabb). This term is used for the father because that term has the meaning of taking care, observing, ect.
      However, ( Abb) is prohibited to be used for God since has the meaning of offspring or progrny.
      As a result, I don’t believe Jesus nor the other Hebraic prophets ever used the later one.


    • Doctor’s note………knee ligaments prevent……sorry


  5. Don’t break out the champagne just yet. From the same article.

    [But Timothy Larsen, professor of Christian thought at Wheaton College, said the fact that nearly three-quarters of evangelicals are confused about Jesus’ origin isn’t as dire as it sounds.

    Evangelicals believe in “dramatic, life-changing adult conversions,” he said, and such conversions mean that new believers may have little training in the core tenets of their new faith.

    “Much depends on how a question is phrased,” he said. “There is a lot in this survey which shows that the respondents are not even being internally consistent, but have been led to contradict themselves based on how the question sounded to them.”

    Howard Snyder, visiting director of Manchester Wesley Research Center and former seminary professor, had similar reservations about the research. He said the confusing wording of the questions might actually falsely inflate the amount of heretical beliefs.

    In fact, both Snyder and Larsen said they were impressed with the high percentage of orthodox agreement. Almost all evangelicals by belief said there is one God in three persons (97%), that Jesus rose physically from the dead (98%), and that the Bible is fully accurate in all it teaches (95%).

    “…virtually all of Americans with evangelical beliefs agreed that there is one true God in three persons (97%), that he is perfect (97%), and that he answers prayer (94%)…”]

    oh, BTW, God is motherly, too. “But Zion said, “The LORD has forsaken me, And the Lord has forgotten me.” “Can a woman forget her nursing child And have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, but I will not forget you.”


  6. “Evangelical” has been watered down a lot in recent years. There is no telling what kind of churches and people that includes in the survey. There are lots of heresies today that claim to keep the name “Evangelical”.

    The whole “Word of Faith” / Prosperity-Healing Heresies that infected most Charismatic and Pentecostal Churches to one degree or another. They claim the word “Evangelical”, and yet that is a total heretical movement. (Big churches with lots of people who have no clue about sound doctrine who follow people like Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Benny Hinn, etc. (heretics)

    Others who are modalists are also heretics but claim the name “Evangelical”.

    There are some who claim the name “Evangelical” who have succumbed to the homosexual agenda and have come out in recent years and said it is not a sin and can get married to each other. They are heretics and not Christian. I Corinthians 6:9-11


  7. Brilliant result for muslims.
    The bottle too has been yanked open.
    Dawah from Paul and co will be even more strengthend with these stats.

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  8. Amazing. It shows the NT does not communicate the Trinity and the ideas associated with this doctrine clearly at the very least. Our Sola Scriptura Christian friends are faced with the proposition of denouncing the Bible as a failure in communicating these ideas if the insist on Sola Scriptura

    I think Sola Scriptura will be undermined next by their more progressive apologists just as the ideas of Biblical inerrancy and Trinity have been undermined already by the same progressive apologists.

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  9. “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Christ.

    How much doctrine did this Loser have to have down pat to join Jesus in paradise? Amazing, isn’t it? This bum will be enjoying heaven big time when we get there, having received salvation without knowing very much about the bludgeoned Man dying next to him, at all. But, he received mercy, didn’t He and a slight nod of approval, from the Alpha and the Omega, all bloody, beaten, scraps of flesh clinging to his torso, black and blue, a red mist surrounding His contorted, dirty body. Oh Jesus, I am so sorry


  10. Hi

    That sounds a lot like these scriptures. By the way is that suppose to faze Christians on this blog?

    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
    2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
    2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.


  11. Hi Mustafa C

    You said this…
    Dawah from Paul and co will be even more strengthend with these stats.

    In the light of scripture these stats mean nothing!

    Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    What you are looking at is stats that don’t represent bible believing Christians, anyone can say they are Christian.

    It will do you good to read the parable of Jesus.

    Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
    Mat 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
    Mat 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
    Mat 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
    Mat 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
    Mat 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
    Mat 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    In other words “they look real” but they are not the real thing.



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