Missionary Mishap: McLatchie Strikes Out

Ouch!

Calling Christians

The $579.88 (USD) per year Zoom platform that Jonathan McLatchie uses has struck out again. After spending so much money and time advertising it to his over 4,996 friends on Facebook and 3,977 members on his “Academy” group, he struck out once more:

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An amazing 0 likes and 0 comments on his own Facebook group dedicated to his “online Academy”, and that’s after an hour. When it comes to the actual Zoom room, he hit a very high number of viewers:

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5 viewers! He’s got quite the value there. That’s almost more than $100 dollars per person that he’s invested in. Well done Jonathan. Also 0 likes and 0 comments (at the time of posting we did like the post to give him some support).

Quite the success!

and God knows best.

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  1. This does you no credit Paul. McLatchie has challenged you to a public moderated debate. But you want to make puerile cracks from afar like sidewalk sallie.

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    • McLatchie has been caught out by Paul twice and each time after he’s left the park, he’s had two make 3 sets of 3 hour long videos with a 15 year old kid to respond to him. Why would he need to do that and Br. Paul doesn’t?

      Being rude with him in the Park, but a tough guy on the internet doesn’t mean anything. Unlike Jonathan, Br. Paul is always at the Park, always open for public discussion. Since then, Jonathan has never returned to the Park and has even advocated coming to it is useless, where his colleague Lizzie then publicly disagreed with him, urging others that coming to the Park was not useless.

      That says it all.

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    • Actually Jonathan caught Paul out. Watch the video and the look on Paul’s face when Jonathan quotes Justin Martyr to him proving Paul had no idea what he was talking about when he said Justin Martyr didnt believe in the trinity

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    • But Justin Martyr did not believe in a Trinity. He was a Unitarian. In his First Apology he describes God as being in first place, Christ in second, and the Spirit in third:

      We will prove that we worship him reasonably; for we have learned that he is the Son of the true God himself, that he holds a second place, and the Spirit of prophecy a third. For this they accuse us of madness, saying that we attribute to a crucified man a place second to the unchangeable and eternal God, the Creator of all things; but they are ignorant of the mystery which lies therein.First Apology 13:5–6

      Justin also wrote, “in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit.” First Apology, 61 LXI

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    • Btw I have accepted Jonathan’s offer of a public moderated debate. He has turned me down.

      Do keep up dude.

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    • @achillies, please watch this. Thanks

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  2. And you are wrong. I watched the footage Jonathan left after Mansoor kept repeating like a parrot “is the father son and holy spirit minus the spirit still fully God” or some such nonsense.

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    • It was a valid question. Jonathan couldn’t answer the question he asked, which is why Mansur kept repeating it.

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    • Actually he had answered it. Numerous times. He said they were all God.

      Its like saying water, gas and ice are all H20. So if you take ice away are water and gas still H20.

      What was hilarious watching that video (other than the look on Paul’s face) is that Mansoor thought he had some killer point that any sunday school kid could deal with.

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    • Looks like another one with the “holy” delusion.

      Christianity is holey its full of them 😂😂😂

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    • Watch it again. You might catch McLatchie making some heretical statements.

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    • Water, gas and ice are not a valid analogy for the trinity.
      Gas and ice are just different states, they aren’t distinct. If you use that analogy, then you’re basically saying the father is the son, just in a different form/state.

      Try again.

      Mansur didn’t ask if they were all God or not. He asked if the father alone is fully God, and if he alone is fully God, then that makes him 1 God. If you weren’t so deluded, you would’ve seen how Jonathan couldn’t answer his question and was giving the answers for questions Mansur never asked.

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    • Water gas and ice are distinct. Thats why they have different names. Its an illustration.

      John 1:1 says Jesus was always with God so the question of Mansoor has a false premise. You can’t talk about the Father alone as somehow being seperate from Jesus. That just shows complete ignorance of the trinity. Jesus said the Father and I are one.

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    • achillies53

      That’s a heresy called modalism.

      “You can’t talk about the Father alone as somehow being seperate from Jesus.”

      Yes you can. According to Mark and Matthew Jesus does:

      “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”

      You believe in two gods clearly. Another heresy.

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    • I would suggest you actually watch the video again, the question was very simple, jonathan didn’t answer, the end.

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  3. In regard to the video by Dale Tuggy that Yahya Snow put up; there is a lot more in Justin Martyr’s writings that show he indeed was Trinitarian, and distinguished between the Father and the Son and yet also understood that the Son is the same nature as the Father. The passage that Dale Tuggy quoted shows that Justin Martyr understood the three persons in a triad of some kind of equality in power and status and nature and worship, which even Dale Tuggy admitted; even without the words like “homo-ousias” and “persons” (hupostasis) – The concept of the Trinity is communicated even without using the words, “Trinity” or “homo-sousias” (same substance) and hupostasis (person).

    There is much more than this, but this is sufficient for now; as I don’t have time to type up more, etc.

    “And Jesus the Christ, because the Jews knew not what the Father was, and what the Son, in like manner accused them; and Himself said, “No one knoweth the Father, but the Son; nor the Son, but the Father, and they to whom the Son revealeth Him.” [Matthew 11:27 – shows a high Christology in Matthew] Now the Word of God is His Son, as we have before said.” [ shows Justin Martyr knows John 1:1 and the teaching of the whole Gospel]

    [My comments in brackets]

    “The Jews, accordingly, being throughout of opinion that it was the Father of the universe who spake to Moses, though He who spake to him was indeed the Son of God, who is called both Angel and Apostle, are justly charged, both by the Spirit of prophecy and by Christ Himself, with knowing neither the Father nor the Son. For they who affirm that the Son is the Father, [against modalism] are proved neither to have become acquainted with the Father, nor to know that the Father of the universe has a Son; who also, being the first-begotten Word of God, is even God.”

    Justin Martyr, First Apology, 63

    See at
    https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.viii.ii.lxiii.html

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