Pfander foul play and debate car crash

Jay Smith sabotages Speakers Corner debate critical of his Islamophobic ministry. 

So the debate was a farce. I turned up at Speakers Corner this afternoon ready to debate the issues I had publicly challenged Lizzie Schofield about. Lizzie and Jay Smith had a different agenda. The challenge to Lizzie two weeks ago was this (see video at 2:10 onwards below):

“To debate Christian Islamophobia towards Muslims in Europe and how your ministry is contributing to this. I will debate you at Speakers Corner, or on Premier Christian Radio. Will you accept my challenge to debate?”

Lizzie said she would “need to think about it.” Lizzie was not at Speakers Corner last week and Jay told me she would debate me today. A week ago I emailed Lizzie and Jay Smith to firm up the arrangements:

May I just confirm the arrangements for Lizzie Schofield and myself to have a public debate at Speakers Corner on Sunday?

I publicly invited Lizzie to debate with me on the subject of ‘Islamopobia in Europe and how certain Christian groups are contributing towards the increasing hatred towards Muslims’ (see 2:10 onwards for the public challenge and invitation); and how I believe Lizzie Schofield, yourself Jay, your associates and the Pfander organisation are contributing towards this problem.

Furthermore, I promised to provide evidence of this fact from the hijab article and your many recorded statements at SC and elsewhere online.

I propose that we have 5 minutes each in turn, with a moderator to keep time and politely ward off interruptions from third parties. As I have issued the invitation to debate I suggest I speak first, outline the issues as I see them, and then Lizzie responds.

Would you pass on my regards to Lizzie and confirm this is acceptable to her?


Paul Williams

I never received a reply from either of them or their associates. I questioned Jay Smith about his lack of reply this afternoon just before the debate and he told me he receives “millions of emails” and cannot reply to them all. Lizzie said she does not have to respond to emails.

They then told me that they would only be debating her infamous hijab article and nothing else, because this was the only subject that was ever proposed for debate! This of course is a lie as the video and email evidence makes clear.

It is clear and very sad that their demand to change the subject of the debate was because the damning evidence of their hate speech would be embarrassing to them. Jay even tried to turn the crowd against the originally proposed subject – but I held my ground.  After about 15 minutes or more I attempted to discuss the evidence of Pfanda ministry’s Islamophobia when he intervened and stopped the debate. Chaos ensued.

All the Muslims at Speakers Corner are in agreement that Jay Smith is a dishonest character and so no one is surprised at his behaviour. Some reflected on how his hate preaching has motivated so many to get involved in dawah! The farce was filmed and should be online soon.

See the challenge to Lizzie two weeks ago (at 2:10 onwards below):







Categories: Christian extremism, Debates, Islamophobia, London, Miscellaneous, Speakers Corner

14 replies

  1. Perhaps I’ve missed it, dear Paul. Do you have the link for Lizzie’s piece, please?


  2. Well done Paul Williams. The evangelical fundamentalists are at the forefront of spreading anti-Muslim hate all over Europe.

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  3. The marauding christian hate groups are the reason why people think its ok to kill and brutalise Muslims across the globe. Incidents like the recent attack leaving a poor young man on death’s door and a blood clot and broken skull just because he was an asylum seeker.

    All hate groups must be subject to the law. No exceptions.

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  4. Paul Williams,
    Thanks for having the courage to stand up and call out Pfander for being a hate group.

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  5. Salam Alaykum. May Allah reward you brother Paul for your efforts.

    Such behavior is not unexpected from a bunch of hypocrites who fail to follow their own scripture: “Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. BUT DO THIS WITH GENTLENESS AND RESPECT.” 1 Peter 3:15.

    Regardless, I would like to relate certain points to brother Paul regarding the Hadith “God created Adam in his image”, preferably in private contact.

    Jazakum Allah Khairan.

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  6. Were one of these the verses you were looking for br Paul when you were debating?

    (33:35) Surely the men who submit (to Allah) and the women who submit (to Allah), the men who have faith and the women who have faith, the men who are obedient and the women who are obedient, the men who are truthful and the women who are truthful; the men who are steadfast and the women who are steadfast, the men who humble themselves (to Allah) and the women who humble themselves (to Allah), the men who give alms and the women who give alms, the men who fast and the women who fast, the men who guard their chastity and the women who guard their chastity, the men who remember Allah much and the women who remember Allah much: for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and a mighty reward.

    4:124 Whoever does good and believes -whether he is male or female – such shall enter the Garden, and they shall not be wronged in the slightest.

    (16:97) Whosoever acts righteously – whether a man or a woman – and embraces belief, We will surely grant him a good life; and will surely grant such persons their reward according to the best of their deeds.

    (40:40) Whosoever does an evil deed will be requited only with the like of it; and whosoever acts righteously and has attained to faith be he a male or a female they shall enter Paradise and be provided sustenance beyond all reckoning.

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