What “Trinitarian Jesus” Said to his Ancestor, David.

11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. 12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’”

13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”

Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.” [2 Samuel 12]

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  1. I waited for Joel, Samaritan, Paulus, madmanna etc. to comment with regards to the above post by Yahya and none of them commented. Jesus commanding rape and the Christians are mute about that. Concealing truth is a sin.

    Sam Shamoun obesity is alarming. Sam has the audacity to say to someone that his(that person’s) God has not cured him. Come on Look at him(Sam), his obesity is frightening and his Lord or God Jesus Christ could not heal him. I am not attacking his person but responding to him(Sam) accusing our God of not healing Muslims. His God could not heal him of his frightening obesity.

    Thanks Yahya.

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  2. “Jesus commanding rape and the Christians are mute about that. Concealing truth is a sin.”

    2 Samuel 12 says nothing of the sort, so the only person sinning is you I’m afraid- fabricating lies against yahweh.

    But let’s assume you are right- as a Muslim you have no ability to protest, unless you reject qadar?

    “And when trials and tribulations befall a person, he knows that this is happening by the decree of Allah, as a test from Him, so he does not panic or despair, rather he seeks the reward of Allah and bears it with patience, and this faith brings contentment and tranquility to the heart of the believer.” (Umar Al Ashqar, Divine Will and Predestination in the Light of Quran and Sunnah, p 142)

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    • Just another example of how ignorant christians are. Muslims do not approve evil because of qadr unless you have no idea what the qadr is, which seems to be the case.

      “But let’s assume you are right”
      He is right accroding to your belief unless you believe in 2 gods.

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    • “(If any good reaches them, they say, “This is from Allah,” but if any evil befalls them, they say, “This happened because of you.” Say: “All things are from Allah.” What is wrong with these people that they do not understand any word?) [An-Nisa’ 78]”

      As a Muslim you must believe that everything that happens is the decree of Allah. So when rape occurs, this is the decree of Allah. According to the Koran above, evil befalls people because all things are from Allah.

      Therefore, assuming Yahya is correct about the text, as a muslim, he has no ability to protest, for he should believe that all and any evil that befalls David is the decree of Allah

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    • You are just embarrassing yourself by revealing your ignorance in the subject.
      But thank you for admitting that the god of the OT was commanding his prophets to do evil.
      Why do you think he has changed his mind to be the god of kick me on ther other cheek?
      Has he realized how evil he was? Did he regret?

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    • By quoting the Koran and a Muslim scholar?

      I think you are embarrassed by the ramifications of qadr on this subject

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    • You are a student of the clown, which meams you qout from Quran, yet you contextualize the text by your own ignorance and misunderstanding. I challange you to point out where in your qoutes it’s stated that muslims must approve evil because of qadr, mr parrot? What is obvious that you have no clue about this subject beacuse it happens that you are just a troll having no other job.

      Again, having admitted that the god of the OT was commanding his prophets to do evil, why do you think he has changed his mind to be the god of kick me on ther other cheek?
      Has he realized how evil he was? Did he regret?

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    • Whether you approve or not is not my problem, nor have I claimed it is. What you can’t deny is that evil things happen by the decree of Allah as expressed by your Koran and scholars. I can only assume if you don’t approve then you fall into the latter category of people as mentioned in this verse.

      “(If any good reaches them, they say, “This is from Allah,” but if any evil befalls them, they say, “This happened because of you.” Say: “All things are from Allah.” What is wrong with these people that they do not understand any word?) [An-Nisa’ 78]”

      Look, I’ll even cite islamqa. I know you guys love that site…

      “The belief that whatever happens only happens by the will of Allaah – whether that has to do with His actions or the actions of created beings.“

      Take note of that last assertion

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    • You are just revealing your ignorance again and again. It’s not really a big deal surprise for me because you’re a student of the clown.

      Are you gonna answer?
      Having admitted that the god of the OT was commanding his prophets to do evil, why do you think he has changed his mind to be the god of kick me on the other cheek?
      Has he realized how evil he was? Did he regret?

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  3. I thought muslims believed in predestination.

    Doesn’t that mean that all acts, both good and evil, including every act of rape that has ever occured has been predestinated by Allah?

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    • Your understanding of qadr is clearly mistaken according to the words of God in the Qur’an.

      Everything that happens is allowed to happen only by the allowance of God…however, that does not mean that God wants that to happen.

      God says in the Qur’an that he does not to any injustice on any creature in the universe.

      But God also says that that the evil people are committing injustice to themselves. God does not want it to happen but He allows it because He allows free will and then He loves justice to be implemented.

      God would rather want all to go to paradise but God will not want to compromise justice by an iota for that….He would want all to be good but only by them choosing to be good.

      God is all good.

      God knows all that will happen in the future and He allows people to make bad choices but He did not force them to do bad choices.

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  4. LOL, two Christian clowns appealed to predestination and both got schooled!

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    • Business as usual.
      It’s kinda getting boring really.

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    • Schooling? You mean like this…

      “Vice President of the Tunisian Parliament Abdelfattah Mourou gave a lecture in the Dar Al-Hijrah Center of Fairfax County, Virginia, in which he said: “We are a nation that has lost the pillars of civilization: knowledge and justice. That is the reason for our backwardness today.” Mourou further said that “the healing of the Islamic nation begins with the exchange of ideas” and called to learn how to talk “without one interrupting the other, cursing him, and calling him an infidel.” His speech was posted on the Internet on November 20

      How applicable to you!!

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    • ROTFL! Poor Cerbie, getting schooled over and over and forced to go off on tangents. Why can’t you respond to the actual topic?

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    • That’s rich. I responded to the topic above and you and Abdullah only insulted.

      Btw- are you embarrassed by this Muslims assessment of Islamic education?

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    • Lol, you were exposed as am ignoramus. Oh, I’m sorry. Did I just insult you?

      The funny thing is that you think changing the subject to predestination in Islam serves as a good response to the topic. Deflecting seems to be a you morons can do. Oops, sorry. I insulted you again, didn’t I?

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    • Exposed as ignorant without explaining how. Hmm, now I better understand why your fellow Muslim leader calls you guys “backwards”. I guess you are just predestined that way…

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    • Wth does your quote have to do with the above?
      Going off topic like a usual. If you can’t answer then just get lost instead of trying to be clever by throwing in a random quote.

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    • Aww, still trying to deflect from the topic. No wonder Christianity needed a reformation!

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    • Stick to your pornbook idiot. The most retarded piece of garbage ever made by unknown potatoes.

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  5. “Everything that happens is allowed to happen only by the allowance of God…however, that does not mean that God wants that to happen.”

    But if God allows something to happen in such a way that it must happen, which is what predestination implies, then it is incoherent to argue that he does not want it to happen.

    Or are you arguing that God has two wills?

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