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Categories: Extremism

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  1. Classic.

    Twenty people murdered and the worry is that it will make islam look bad.

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  2. My first thought was that this was a Christian fanatic (given the anti-homosexual rhetoric that’s prominent out in the US), but that was only a thought. We shall find out soon enough.

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  3. D

    You said;
    How have I twisted facts? Twenty people are dead and this guy is worried that islam’s reputation will suffer.

    I say;
    Millions of people have died in Afghanistan with US drones, Iraq with US invasion, in Palestine with Evangelical Christian support etc. and some people are worried with US and Israel’s reputation. The guy is concerned about all these hence his concern on people like you D attacking one sided extremists.

    The media is not concerned about Billions of Muslims who will not do this. The shooter appears to be gay as well, drinks and do drugs like the Paris and Belgium shooters.

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    • Intellect

      “The media is not concerned about Billions of Muslims who will not do this. The shooter appears to be gay as well, drinks and do drugs like the Paris and Belgium shooters.”

      Actually, I would say that overall, the media has been extremely conciliatory and empathetic towards muslims and their sensibilities. They have almost completely given no coverage of refugee sexual assaults throughout Europe – even going so far as to blame the women themselves – and they take great care not to conflate the terrorist actions of a few muslims with islam’s doctrines.

      As for Mateen, whatever sins he committed have been wiped clean by his martyrdom in the performance of jihad – he is now in your bizarre version of heaven surrounded by several dozen virgins with ample bosoms.

      Considering that he was gay, this can only be a hell for him. The irony would be awesome if it wasn’t so tragic.

      Having said that, doesn’t your heaven also provide youthful males as “servants”, nudge-nudge, wink-wink? And won’t your heaven be almost devoid of women – apart from these virgins – since women don’t have what it takes spiritually to attain it?

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    You said;
    As for Mateen, whatever sins he committed have been wiped clean by his martyrdom in the performance of jihad – he is now in your bizarre version of heaven surrounded by several dozen virgins with ample bosoms

    I say;
    You dandyhead. Show me where It says killing innocent people will send a Muslim to heaven. I will provide a passage that says killing 1 person except he commits murderer/criminal is like killing the whole mankind.

    Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

    The Bible said and commanded by Jesus said kill innocent infants and Jesus said

    Luke 19:27

    New International Version
    But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.'”

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    • It seems people like Sam, D and Ken Temple are projecting their religious beliefs onto Islam. The fact that they can come up with thoughts like that shows how far off they have become.

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    • Intellect

      How would you define “innocent” in the islamic sense? Are apostates innocent? Are homosexuals innocent, or are they considered guilty of anti-islamic behaviour? Are people who criticize your prophet innocent?

      As for Luke 19:27 – LOL!!!!

      What is your point? That Mateen was justified in killing homsexuals because of something in the NT?

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  5. D

    You said;
    As for Luke 19:27 – LOL!!!!

    I say;
    You wicked and vicious person D like Mateen. You are laughing when your God Jesus Christ commands you to kill anyone who will not obey him makes you vicious like Mateen. You made it clear here you are happy when Christians inspire wars cause Muslims to kill each other. What a satanic person are you? You are worse than Mateen.

    You said;
    How would you define “innocent” in the islamic sense? Are apostates innocent? Are homosexuals innocent, or are they considered guilty of anti-islamic behaviour? Are people who criticize your prophet innocent?

    I say;
    Homosexuals or any sinner is innocent in Islam until caught red handed in the act. No one caught any homosexual in the night club performing any act of sex, so they are all innocent. If they want to fuck the anus of each other, they might have some cubicle or room to hide and do their thing privately. In Islam they are innocent in the eyes of man but guilty in the eyes of God and must be left to God to judge them and no one has the right to take their life.

    With regards to sex and nudity in public, the US constitution prevents that and so do not blame Islam for also not allowing sex and nudity in public. It is not good for our children and ourselves.

    IN ISLAM ALL THE GAY PEOPLE HAVING THEIR TIME ARE INNOCENT IN THE EYES OF MAN. THEY MAY NOT COMMIT THE ACT AND LATER CONVERTS TO A RELIGION OF GOD. THOSE WHO PERFORMED THE ACT PRIVATELY ARE GUILTY IN THE EYES OF GOD AND MAY BE FORGIVEN IF THEY SINCERELY REPENT OR PURNISHED BY GOD ALONE AT HIS OWN TIME IF THEY DO NOT SINCERERELY REPENT. As simple as that.

    This is what your lord and God Jesus Christ said about homosexuality.

    “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

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    • Intellect

      You are sad.

      Christians are never commanded to kill anyone in that text. Where does it say that christians are to kill disbelievers?

      “Homosexuals or any sinner is innocent in Islam until caught red handed in the act.”

      LOL!!!…….

      https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/punishing-gays-rectums-are-glued-shut-and-they-are-force-fed-petrol-and-set-alight/

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    • D seems to be a marcionite when it suits him. No surprise.

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    • Burhanuddin1

      “D seems to be a marcionite when it suits him. No surprise.”

      I’m believe in one god whose nature we can trust – not some entity that has 99 personalities, none of which reveal who he is, and none of which are infinite.

      And I definitely believe in the god of israel, not the god of the black stone.

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    • “I’m believe in one god whose nature we can trust” … “whose nature we can trust” – Oh dear, another piece of creative theological pathos.

      “He” is actually “they” and it’s actually two natures by now.

      Bad God OT, good God NT when it suits you.

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    • Burhanuddin1
      “Oh dear, another piece of creative theological pathos.

      “He” is actually “they” and it’s actually two natures by now.

      Bad God OT, good God NT when it suits you.”

      I’m not sure what you are talking about – you’re not making any sense.

      And I would still like someone to explain your bizarro concept of god with his solitary leg and 99 personalities. How can his oneness be finite?

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  6. D

    Oneness is not a person or a being. So we are talking about God’s being/person and He clearly states He is one being/person. No where did God say He is 3 persons/beings one God.

    Jews consider the Muslim God with 99 characteristics/attributes/names/features/qualities/personalities etc. as their God but reject the Trinity which is 3 persons.

    Person is a being and personality is not a being. So worshiping 3 persons/beings is idolatry and worshiping One God with 99 personalities and personality is not a person or being is not idolatry.

    Watch the explanation by a Jew. I have so many Jews testifying to this.

    I have never come across a Jew who worships Jesus or Trinity.

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