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  1. Hey Paul
    What’s your point?


  2. Paul W.
    I was hoping that you would develop a post using that pic.

    Many Africans were forced into slavery and brought across the Atlantic by Christian Slavers. Shortly after arrival to the America’s they had their traditional culture, language, and religion beaten out of them. According to some estimates 40%-60% of these slaves were taken from Muslim tribes, and cultures. These Muslim brothers and sisters were subjugated, and forced to endure such terrible brutality, inhuman degradation, and unspeakable violations, much of it in the name of and supported by Christians and Christianity. We have examples and evidence of these Muslim slaves trying desperately to hold on to their faith in Islam and the Qur’an. But the vast majority either suffered and died from the experience of slavery or gave in to their Master’s will under extreme duress.

    It is so very sad, and it pains me to see so many of these Muslim slaves descendants living life oblivious to the fact that they are likely descended from proud Muslim families. What’s worse is that many of these descendants still cling to a religion that their Muslim ancestors were forced into and would have outright rejected if they had the freedom to do so. The irony that their ancestors were brutalized by the very Christian faith that they now cherish and sing mindless hymns about seems lost on these poor lost souls. Christianity held their ancestors in slavery, and still holds many of their descendants in a figurative slavery through mental chains.

    I hope that Africans everywhere reflect on this and read about the life and experience of great Black men like Malcolm X, Warith Deen Muhamad, Muhammad Ali, and many others throughout the world, who have rejected the religion that was forced upon their ancestors through the means of slavery, and have accepted and RETURNED to Islam. I pray that those of African ancestry will return to their roots, and come home to Islam.

    I would like to say a prayer for all those who lost their lives and suffered through the great injustice and tragedy of slavery in the Americas and elsewhere. I call upon Almighty God Allah, to fill the hearts of their African descendants with love for his Deen, and to free them from the anguish of the mental chains which tie them to a faith that is not of their own choosing, and guide them to the true and straight path of Islam. May Allah make it easy for them to see his light and educate them on the truth of Islam. Amen.

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    • Ibn Issam


      The Christians killed themselves and in Europe and Asia and killed others too i.e. Jews and Muslims until freedom of religion was forced on them through rebellions and war by the atheist, liberal Christians and or secularists.


      Along with the religious consequences of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation came deep and lasting political changes. Northern Europe’s new religious and political freedoms came at a great cost, with decades of rebellions, wars and bloody persecutions. The Thirty Years’ War alone may have cost Germany 40 percent of its population.


      -When the Christians came to the America the force converted the slaves they took from Africa until there was a war of independence to bring freedom of religion there.

      These American Christians returned a ship load of Jews who were being persecuted by Christians in Europe to return back to Europe and some of them were killed and found themselves in the holocaust.

      These same evangelical Christians like John Hagee, Falwell etc. are voting for Donald Trump event though he did what Jesus will not like, so that he will crush ALL Muslims once and for all.

      They are also helping any Zionist to crush the Christian and Muslim Palestinians and they think the Jews will either be killed or converted to Christianity.


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    • Ibn Issam

      thanks for explaining in detail the history of this tragic period.


  3. Religions have in the past and today been used as an excuse for imperialist goals. The Greeks and Romans did it in order to prevent any dissent from within their conquered territories. Christian empires have done this as well as Muslim ones. The Mughals in India would be a good example especially when it comes to persecution of minorities.

    Hindus have persecuted Muslims, Muslims have persecuted Christians, Christians have persecuted Jews etc…

    There are very few ideologies whose history does not contain such examples. Humility is needed here as well as the recognition that external observance means nothing without internal acceptance of the fundamental principles found within each of the religions means nothing.

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    • Patrice,
      Your point is understood. However, I don’t think that any religion other than Christianity was ever so fully approving of the brutal inhuman form of industrialized corporate slavery that was being conducted in the Americas, and using it as an opportunity to “win souls for Christ.”


    • Hey Ibn Issam!

      Indeed Christendom (predominantly in the west might i add) has a very sad history of violence and persecution. Often enough political powers of the day used religion as an excuse to exercise their imperialist agenda.

      With this in mind i think there is a need to distinguish between Christianity (the teachings of Jesus and his Apostles) with the Church.


    • Dad was raised in a church where the hypocrisy was rampant. When his father died, he was 14. He had 2 younger brothers. His dad left nothing and it was during the depression. He went to work as did his mother–she scrubbed floors. They didn’t have enough to eat. The men who ministered at his church offered no assistance. He grew up hating “the church”. Hating.

      I grew up hating the church. Today, I try to remember what He said, “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.” Some who proclaim to live for him, don’t. Some do.

      After becoming a Christian as a young man, I attended a dynamic church. The pastor was a father figure, a powerful preacher with great command of the English language, a fabulous story teller, a man of great prayer and incredible generosity, adopting 7 children all at once when their parents were murdered. He tried to kiss me one day. I was shocked. I was very disappointed. But, he wasn’t my God.

      God reminded me to be, “Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled…”


  4. Patrice

    You said;
    There are very few ideologies whose history does not contain such examples. Humility is needed here as well as the recognition that external observance means nothing without internal acceptance of the fundamental principles found within each of the religions means nothing.

    I say;
    You are right my brother, any religion has bad history on its side but Muslims never force converted any one because our religion forbids that and has a law for us to live with others who do not willfully convert to our religion and the proof is clear doday as non Muslims are found in majority Muslim lands.

    The purpose of this post is that, Christian religion is brutal in taking the Biblical brutal verses in the absence of law or not following a law like Sharia or OT law, but instead force converting anyone including themselves i.e. Catholics and protestants.

    The evidence is in the picture above where Muslims slaves from Africa were force converted to Christianity in America and now almost all or should I say majority of African Americans are Christians.

    In ancient Spain when Muslims took over, Jews, Christians and others were allowed to have their religion until Christianity took over and either kill all of them, some Jews migrated with Muslims in Muslim majority lands where they were safe and they were safe today-forget the evangelical Christian imposed Bush/Blair war that started some rift but the fact is that indigenous Christians are still in Iraq right now and they were there from Jesus time and the same people are still there.

    Jews are in Iran, Morocco, Yemen or Yemenite Jews etc. but Israel has bribed some of them to migrate to Israel to boost Jewish population.



  5. Here are some of the Biblical verses that Slave owners would read to slaves as part of the Sunday worship services that they allowed (and controlled) as a means of encouraging the proper submissive attitude among their slaves. Based upon these isolated verses, slave owners claimed that the Bible supported slavery and taught slaves to be obedient to their masters.

    Psalm 123:2 (New International Version (NIV)): As the eyes of slaves look to the hand of their master, as the eyes of a maid look to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the LORD our God, till he shows us his mercy.

    Ephesians 6:4-6: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

    Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

    Ephesians 6:9:And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.

    Colossians 3:22:Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

    Colossians 4:1:Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.

    Titus 2:9:Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,

    1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

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    • bro isam

      i guess the slavery rules weren’t “fulfilled “


    • Here is an excerpt from an article on slavery and Islam https://islamqa.info/en/94840


      In Islam, if the slave of a Muslim simply reverted to Islam the Muslim could no longer hold he or she in slavery as it is shameful to hold a fellow Muslim co-religionist in thrall. In this way and other ways, Islam encouraged the eventual liberation of all slaves, and the end of the practice of slavery since it is not profitable or beneficial to purchase slaves who can manumit themselves simply by reverting to Islam. Allah rewards those who free the slaves, and encourages the manumission of the slave. Many sins are expiated by the ransom of the slave and giving him freedom.

      But as the above Biblical verses show, there is no such hope for the slave in Christianity. Even conversion to Christianity was of no avail as the slave remained a slave, with no way out but death. So much for Christian love and brotherhood.


    • Quote: “It is worth pointing out that you do not find any text in the Qur’aan or Sunnah which enjoins taking others as slaves, whereas there are dozens of texts in the Qur’aan and the ahaadeeth of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which call for manumitting slaves and freeing them.” https://islamqa.info/en/94840


    • Islamqa and discover the truth are not reliable sources


    • Why because you don’t agree with them? that’s your opinion.


    • “But as the above Biblical verses show, there is no such hope for the slave in Christianity. Even conversion to Christianity was of no avail as the slave remained a slave, with no way out but death. So much for Christian love and brotherhood.”

      These statements are not true. Slave owners could and did release their slaves. And a deeper principle is at work here. To reflect the image of the divine was and is more important than everything else, to God and to those who love Him with all they are. Many forsook everything they had to follow Him and they were brutally, savagely tortured and murdered, when they could have verbally renounced their faith and been set free.

      “Masters, provide your slaves with what is right and fair, because you know that you also have a Master in heaven.”

      This was a gentle reminder not to abuse slaves. If owners would not treat them with the same love God showed them, they could count on His promise to pay them back in due course.

      “Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.”

      The idea for all of them and us was/is that God loves us all the same regardless one’s background, gender or station in life. Those kinds of things do not matter to him.

      Don’t forget to include the following instructions and principles when discussing God’s attitude toward slaves. Remember Jesus, too, who did not consider equality with God as a free pass to avoid submitting to him and to us, “the greatest shall be the servant”
      “Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13 Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14 And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity.”

      God longs to reach humanity with the Gospel, right? and He said, “All men shall know you are my disciples if you have love one for another”. If the church had lived by this premise, many more would have seen Him and likely found Him. Preaching and witnessing are valuable tools to evangelize. Christians loving one another is perhaps the most powerful means to reach others with the assurance of his reality; a means which we, the present day church, have discarded, which is clearly an indictment of our generation.

      “How is it to your credit if you are beaten for doing wrong and you endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.”

      Not only is God’s economy the opposite of man’s, if we suffer for doing well and take the suffering patiently, then we really please Him.

      Tough for me to live out.


  6. Maybe up to around a third of the slaves in America from Africa were Muslim


    • Yahya,
      I think you are correct and that is the consensus, but I have also read some scholars and authors who estimate the percentage at 40% or even higher. Of course there are also those who estimate the percentage as negligible, but that is revisionism, and does not make sense given that many slaves were taken from Muslim majority areas and tribes in Africa.

      May Allah rest the souls of our Muslim brothers and sisters who suffered this slavery and grant them Jannah. Amen.


  7. I just remembered this hadith when I saw the pic
    In Sahih Muslim the prophet ( peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are two types of the people of Hell that I have not seen” He mentioned the first type ” men with whips like the tails of cattle with which they strike the people ….. “

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  8. There is allot of records now being studied from white land owners in the US which show that those land owners that were not brutal took a liking to the Muslims among the slaves and entrusted them with their affairs which was unheard of. There are a few famous cases where there are still tributes in local city squares of Muslims who helped defeat the British and fought alongside the Americans. There is a statue somewhere (I can’t remember where now) of a famous Muslim who helped in the strategy to defeat the British by bringing in and training camels for warfare in the rough terrain of the US. There is stuff out their on youtube where people are giving lectures. I think the Majority of Muslims came from the Mandink of West Africa.

    The Mandinka (also known as Mandenka, Mandinko, Mandingo, Manding or Malinke)[6] is a West African ethnic group with an estimated global population of eleven million (the other three major ethnic groups in the region being the non-related Fula, Hausa and Songhai peoples). The Mandinka are the descendants of the Mali Empire, which rose to power under the rule of the Malinké/Maninka king Sundiata Keita.

    Also the US founding fathers revered the Quran and the suna of the prophet and created the constitution upon those principles. Even until this day Federal judges swear into office on the Holy Quran which can be seen here.


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