Muslims Should Thank James White For These Comments!

James White made some important statements about arguments against the Quran and the Prophet which are being used by Christian  apologists – these statements if applied consistently condemn the methods of  Jay Smith and David Wood as inconsistent and unfair.

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We’ve all seen wild-eyed Christian apologists on the internet coming out with attacks against the Prophet such as the thighing hoax , necrophilia claim or the claim of cross dressing. All of those mentioned are from David Wood.

But the polemics of Jay Smith, Usama Dakdok or Joseph Najm from ABN would all tie in with James’ criticism of arguments against Prophet Muhammad.To be honest, they could have been from many more Christian polemicists, that’s how rampant this abandonment of fairness, truth, and respect for others and oneself actually is  amongst internet Christian polemicists.

One thing that is clear, Muslims have been looking  at each other perplexed due to the noticeable lack of Christian elders, pastors or even their more mature colleagues to rebuke them or make some sort of statement about polemics that are quite frankly embarrassing to any Christian with a shred of desire for truth, accuracy, consistency and fairness.

We know it’s difficult for a Christian to come out and do so due to the way Christian apologetics to Muslims works – it’s herd mentality and group think. The person who doesn’t join in winds up having less support, less popularity and I’d imagine less cash!

So it’s great to see James R White making these statements about Christians using unfair and inconsistent polemics against the Quran and the Prophet.

I’ve personally spoken out against the polemic that Paul of Tarsus performed a homosexual act during a circumcision. I was told they (those who propagate that polemic) only do so because “they (the Christians) do it to us (the Muslims)”.  Clearly, there’s a vicious circle of malicious polemics. 

James does not name Christians who attack Islam with unfair and inconsistent arguments who he claims “threw him under the bus” but that’s immaterial here. It’s important to know, if you apply James White’s statements consistently and are familiar with the methodologies of David Wood and Jay Smith then one would conclude his statements about unfair and inconsistent attacks on the Prophet and the Quran would at the very least apply to a bulk of their work. There’s no two ways about it. Anybody who has seen their arguments knows they operate on an inconsistent and unfair paradigm. I just hope some church elders can pull them aside and talk to them.

I think James White and those Christians who are of a similar mindset will agree with this piece 100%

How Jay Smith, Beth Grove, Usama Dakdok and David Wood contribute to the apostasy of Christians



Categories: Islam

22 replies

  1. Thanks Yahya for posting that picture of David Wood, I had almost forgotten about your prophet in his child brides nighty getting his revelation on from allah. Wow what a site that must have been. LOL

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    • You think would approve of your remark? Shame

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    • Kmac

      We do not have fact that our prophet has child bride but the Bible said Jesus Christ allowed Prophet Abraham to have sex and adultery with his slave and she is child because she is much younger than the wife of Abraham. Jesus got pissed for forgetting to allow his slave to commit adultery and instead of blaming himself(Jesus), he used his powers to blame the poor child Ishmael and refused him a covenant and gave that to Isaac. Ishmael did not cause the adultery but Jesus caused it by allowing his prophet to commit adultery and later blaming the poor child that came out of it.

      There is evidence and proof above that David Wood wears ladies brassier to show his homosexual act as being the lady of his gay partner. You follow such a man like David Wood as a teacher. You are doomed Kmac.

      Thanks.

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    • Kmac

      Considering it was explained clearly that David Wood had no clue what he was talking about and no understanding of the Arabic terms in question I think you’re being disingenuous here and just trying to insult and troll whilst knowing the truth of Wood’s erroneous claim.

      And as for the real crossdresser, David Wood, do you condemn Wood as an abomination as per the Deut 22:5 or do you think that law has been abrogated and Christians can wear their wife’s nighties:

      A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.

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    • Yahyasnow Wrote…

      “And as for the real crossdresser, David Wood, do you condemn Wood as an abomination as per the Deut 22:5 or do you think that law has been abrogated and Christians can wear their wife’s nighties:”

      My response: So if what David did one time in parody and in jest, to demonstrate the point about your prophet is to be condemned under Deut 22. Then what does it say about your prophet who unlike David Wood actually did put on his child brides clothes in some weird ritual to get his revelation on, night after night after night?

      Now you can deny your own Islamic sources all you want, you can play the Arabic card all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that the Islamic sources all say that Mohamed got his revelation on in Aisha’s bed chamber under her clothes. Something that David Wood brilliantly illustrates in the video he made.

      So every time you show that hysterical picture, every time you call on David Wood to be condemned for his one time parody you are actually reminding everyone of your silly prophet under Aisha’s garments in Communion with your god. So if anyone is to be condemned go and point the finger at Mohamed not at David Wood who is only the messenger of your prophets vice.

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    • Kmac,

      Oh so if David decided to mock homosexuals by having gay sex on camera, or mock burglars by breaking into a home on camera or mock racists by making a racist comment you’d be OK with that because he did it for mockery?

      Strange. And you want me to believe the Holy Spirit is guiding you?

      And in case, David said the garment he was wearing was the only one in his wife’s wardrobe that fit him – sounds like he tried a few on!

      As for the rest, you know it was a load of nonsense from David as he had no clue what he was talking about as is often the case.

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  2. Intellect you are someone who truly does not deserves the nic Intellect, you wrote.

    “There is evidence and proof above that David Wood wears ladies brassier to show his homosexual act as being the lady of his gay partner. You follow such a man like David Wood as a teacher. You are doomed Kmac.”

    LOL man you muslims keep falling for it and don’t even realize it. To funny

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    • @kmac: Look if you are a Christian you need to start following moral guidelines of Jesus. Didn’t Jesus say that “by their fruits you will know them”. By the vile comments you make I can for sure tell that you are not a sincere follower of Jesus.

      Please point out if I or any Muslim diverges from the morals and manners of Prophets. If Moses (the best man of his time) was commanded to talk to Pharaoh (the worst in human history) with dignity and respect, how me treating you when I know I can never be better than Moses and ou can never be worse than Pharaoh and vice versa.

      It is completely unacceptable to throw mud, insults, abuse on holy figure of others people even if you don’t believe in them. I don’t believe in St Paul, yet I have no right to insult him. Yes I can and will disagree with his theology, but insults! no, that must be out of bounds.

      This is same message for my Muslim brethren. Please get your act together. Lets use morally acceptable language in dealing with our ideological opponents, a language that befits us as follower of the best of the creations ( khair al khalaiq) and the one who came to fix morals and manners of mankind.

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    • Kmac.

      Using one’s brain(intellect) to reject untruth like God-Man or David Wood’s lies is not English language but intellectual integrity. You have been making a lot of mistakes here especially when you signed as Robert Wells.

      Jesus cause his prophet to have sex with a slave girl and he(Jesus) pissed about what he(Jesus) did and blamed poor Ishmael. That alone is a sin by Jesus Christ. Our prophet has no evidence of child bride and no one at his time blamed him for any child bride. He was blamed for other things by his opponents but not child bride. Except you who is learning from David Wood who has a ladies brassier as evidence of him being insane by using hammer to hit his father. You will be insane one day if you keep following David Wood.

      Thanks.

      Thanks.

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    • Intellect,

      “Pissed about”? Please done allow Kmac,who is obviously trolling, to provoke you into offending Christians.

      Kmac and David Wood are not representative of Christianity or Christians as a whole.

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    • yahyasnowblog

      December 24, 2016 • 3:44 am
      Intellect,

      “Pissed about”? Please done allow Kmac,who is obviously trolling, to provoke you into offending Christians.

      Kmac and David Wood are not representative of Christianity or Christians as a whole.

      I say;
      We both need some corrections here as typing in blog comment box in a hurry to reply sometimes leads to a lot of error, unless one is very good with his English language or use spellcheck.

      “Pissed about” and “done allow” must be corrected to “Pissed off” and “don’t allow”.

      Sometimes people correct me here and I also correct people sometimes.

      Thanks.

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    • Intellect
      Salam
      Thanks for the correction of the typo brother.

      But I wasn’t trying to correct a typo or your English.

      I was trying to make the point that using that type of phrase “pissed off” about a being the Christians believe to be God will offend them.

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    • yahyasnowblog

      It does not matter if you correct me in anything. Without corrections, we will not be where are today. With regards to my replies here, it is directed to a Christian I am replying but not all Christians.

      I usually say;

      “You said”

      “I say”

      If that particular Christian said, without evidence that my prophet had a child bride and at that time my prophet’s opponents had accused him of other things but not child bride, then I have to humbly reply to that particular Christian to look at his prophets and God in the Bible because they came first before my prophet.

      That’s what I want to tell Kmac but not to all Christians.

      Thanks.

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    • Yahya Snow wrote…

      ““Pissed about”? Please done allow Kmac,who is obviously trolling, to provoke you into offending Christians.

      Kmac and David Wood are not representative of Christianity or Christians as a whole.”

      My response: Yahya if your so concerned about what offends Christians then please denounce Mohamed, leave Islam and accept Christ as your Lord and Savior.

      Intellect wrote…

      “We both need some corrections here as typing in blog comment box in a hurry to reply sometimes leads to a lot of error, unless one is very good with his English language or use spellcheck.”

      My response: LOL ha ha ha ha oh man I told you your not very good at that whole Intellect thing lol

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  3. @Kmac: u wrote “Who is the holy figure I through mud and insults at?”

    I guess you can read your own posts. Please do and replace Jesus with Mohammed ( in description), a hadeeth with a verse from bible that describes Jesus or God or any prophets of Old in negative light [ and u can find plenty of them ] and see if you like them.

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    • RationalMuslim and yahyasnowblog

      Thank you all for your advice. Yahya, I knew you in this business for a very long time and you know very well the only medicine that can silence this deliberate attempt to muddy the waters of good discussion is to tell people like Kmac that Jesus or God allowed his prophet Abraham to have sex with a slave and produce illegitimate child which is a very big sin by Jesus himself.

      I am not directing this to all Christians but to Kmac, David Wood and the rest. I usually quote what a Christian said and reply the Christian based on what he said. So, my reply is for that particular Christian based on what he said. I succeeded in shutting the hell out of their mouths who want to muddy the waters of good discussions. Let him insult us and I will not insult him but tell him what the Bible said or wha Christians are saying.

      Christians say Ishmael is illegitimate and not me so I am just reminding Kmac, if he is concerned about immorality he must look at Jesus and Abraham first because they came before our prophet.

      If I say Jesus, I mean Jesus the God Man or Jesus the God which to me means nothing. Our Jesus in Islam is a pure man and not God, so I am not referring to the Jesus that Quran is talking about but the God-Man who is an impossibility.

      The Quran told us that Prophet Abraham married all his wives and there is no illegitimate child among his children. So I am just referring Kmac to what Christians are saying. I am able to shut the hell out of Kmac’s mouth and the good discussions could continue.

      Thanks.

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    • Intellect wrote…

      ” that Jesus or God allowed his prophet Abraham to have sex with a slave and produce illegitimate child which is a very big sin by Jesus himself.”

      My response: Putting aside the fact that it was Sara’s lack of faith, you are right it was a sin, the consequences of which we are still feeling today. Do to your illegitimate prophet, who was from and illiterate son.

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    • IrrationalMuslim wrote…

      “I guess you can read your own posts.”

      I say: I have read my own posts, I wrote them… and I have not through mud or insults at anyone holy”

      You wrote…”Please do and replace Jesus with Mohammed ( in description)”

      I say: Never, how can I replace the Lord of Lords, the creator of all things, the Truth and The Resurrection and the life, the Good Shepard, The True Vine etc… with Mohamed a man who put on his child brides nighty to get his revelation on?

      You wrote.. ” a verse from bible that describes Jesus or God or any prophets of Old in negative light [ and u can find plenty of them ] and see if you like them.”

      My response: Show me one.

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    • @kmac:

      Mark 7:20-22
      And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness.

      Proverbs 12:16
      The vexation of a fool is known at once, but the prudent ignores an insult.

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    • IrrationalMuslim thank you for quoting our Glorious Lord Jesus in Mark 7:20-22 and the wisdom of God in to which I say AMEN AMEN. I love those verses.

      But tell me how are either those verses “a verse from bible that describes Jesus or God or any prophets of Old in negative light”

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  4. Kmac
    December 24, 2016 • 1:07 pm
    Intellect wrote…
    ” that Jesus or God allowed his prophet Abraham to have sex with a slave and produce illegitimate child which is a very big sin by Jesus himself.”
    My response: Putting aside the fact that it was Sara’s lack of faith, you are right it was a sin, the consequences of which we are still feeling today. Do to your illegitimate prophet, who was from and illiterate son.

    I say;
    Who is God? According to you? Jesus Christ. It is the fault of Jesus Christ to allow his prophet to sin. He(Jesus) and yourself(Kmac) blamed the fault on poor Ishmael who has nothing to do with Jesus allowing his prophet(Abraham) to commit this despicable sin of adultery.

    Now, shifted the blame game to Sara as lack of faith. You “dandyhead”. Who slept with Sara and Hagar? Abraham of course. nder whose advice and guidance? Jesus Christ.

    In your Greeko/Roman west who is to be arrested and Jailed for this adultery?
    1. Jesus Christ for creating an environment for child sex i.e. if a child porno is found on someone’s computer he will be charged and put to jail.
    2. Abraham will be arrested and put to jail for adultery and having sex outside marriage with his slave. He will also be charged with polygamy in case he married the maid. But Christians saying her child is illegitimate means Abraham committed adultery under guidance of his God(Jesus).

    Poor Ishmael will not be blamed for Jesus and Abraham’s adulterous life.
    Poor Sara will not be blamed because she did not rape Abraham.

    This is the wickedness of Christians like you, always blaming the innocent and supporting the guilty and it means what Christians like you are doing in that regards if from Jesus Christ to always blame the innocent.

    IT WAS ABRAHAM AND JESUS LACK OF FAITH because Abraham did it with the help and guidance of Jesus Christ his God to commit this great sin and it is the great adultery by prophet of Jesus supported by Jesus.

    Me and my prophet did not have sex with Sara or Hagar but Abraham did through the help of Jesus Christ. So it will be disingenuous to shift the blame on us.

    There are other sins and porn in the Bible commanded by Jesus Christ. You insult me without bases and I remind you of more of the sins that Jesus commanded in the Bible.

    Thanks.

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    • Kmac
      December 24, 2016 • 1:01 pm
      Yahya Snow wrote…
      ““Pissed about”? Please done allow Kmac,who is obviously trolling, to provoke you into offending Christians.
      Kmac and David Wood are not representative of Christianity or Christians as a whole.”
      My response: Yahya if your so concerned about what offends Christians then please denounce Mohamed, leave Islam and accept Christ as your Lord and Savior.

      I say;
      I can be with the little money that I have, Yahya Snow will not worship a man(Jesus) or God-Man(impossibility), God who died but the Bible said God does not die, 3 persons and a person is obviously a being i.e. 3 beings 3 Gods polytheism and idolatry etc.

      Thanks.

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